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Sun Aug 13, 2017, 11:41 AM

"It's my heritage!"

The "It's my heritage!" is a dumb argument that these people like to make to show that these confederate symbols have nothing to do with racism. But that heritage would be one of treason and fighting against the United States. The same people who love these symbols are the same people who are mad at Colin Kapernic.

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Reply "It's my heritage!" (Original post)
Proud liberal 80 Sunday OP
The Velveteen Ocelot Sunday #1
dalton99a Sunday #2
cvoogt Sunday #3
dalton99a Sunday #4
The Velveteen Ocelot Sunday #8
Aristus Sunday #5
HAB911 Sunday #9
Blue_true Sunday #10
treestar Sunday #6
Blue_true Sunday #11
Frances Sunday #7
Aristus Yesterday #12

Response to Proud liberal 80 (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 11:53 AM

1. So when, in Minnesota, I see some knucklehead flying the confederate flag

off the back of his pickup truck (that had Minnesota license plates), he expects me to think it's his "heritage"? (An especially weird aspect of this was that there was a big US flag flying off the other side of the truck.) WTF? It's not heritage or history for a guy like that.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #1)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 11:54 AM

2. Exactly.

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Response to Proud liberal 80 (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 11:56 AM

3. sure, it's a heritage

.. of owning other humans, and of genocide, and treason.

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Response to Proud liberal 80 (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 11:57 AM

4. It's the redneck swastika

If they get fancy, they fly both flags

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #4)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:02 PM

8. That's exactly what it is.

Maybe someone should point out to these dumbasses that they are flying the flags of two nations the United States fought against and defeated. Losers, in other words.

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Response to Proud liberal 80 (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 11:59 AM

5. The stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard. An excuse for hate.

I was born into a Southern family. My mother was born in Montgomery, Alabama, 80 years to the day after the Confederate Constitution was adopted in Montgomery. Every ancestor of mine who fought in the Civil War fought for the Confederacy. My 4x/great-grandfather was a delegate who signed the Articles of Secession for the state of Georgia. Two of my mother's uncles were in the Klan.

It's my heritage, too. That doesn't mean I should be proud of it.

What I am proud of is that my family today is made up almost entirely of Kennedy-liberals. My mother marched in JFK's inaugural parade. My father, born and raised in Oklahoma City, OK, refused to go out on a night-run when my mother's Klansmen uncles invited him out 'with the boys' when my parents were dating. We are staunch, die-hard liberal Democrats who despise the murderous racists in our past, and feel no obligation to 'honor our heritage'.

Love is stronger than hate. There are more of us than there are of them. And we will win...

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Response to Aristus (Reply #5)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:07 PM

9. My brother

same family history

stay strong

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Response to Aristus (Reply #5)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 01:32 PM

10. The citizens in my town ran the klan out of town during the 20s

and told them not to come back. We have confederate flag wavers, but on their own property. I have never seen stuff like that allowed on city or county property. Not that my area is perfect, most of the citizens here are republicans as are most elected officials. But we have a nice library system across the county and properly funded schools where teachers are allowed to teach. Even the people that I KNOW are republicans are decent people outside of politics.

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Response to Proud liberal 80 (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:01 PM

6. It's a negative heritage

so why are they supportive of it? A statue honors someone. That's why there are no statues of Hitler. So they want to honor those who fought for slavery. That's not a heritage to be proud of.

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Response to treestar (Reply #6)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 01:41 PM

11. Exactly. nt

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Response to Proud liberal 80 (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:01 PM

7. Yes, it's my heritage

but I am glad that my parents didn't foster hate on me.

70 years ago, as a young child growing up in rural Alabama, I asked my mother to explain the "silver" war I had heard people talking about. She told me that the Civil War was a war that people fought with swords and not to ever bring it up because it just made people mad. I think that my mother was eligible to join the Daughters of the Confederacy, but she wasn't interested in that organization. She wanted to join the Daughters of the American Revolution.

Around that same time, I asked my father what the Ku Klux Klan was. He said that they were just a bunch of bored men sitting around on a Saturday night drinking and wanting something to do. So, they'd go build a cross and set it on fire to scare people. My father's mother was from Louisiana and had been brought up Catholic. At that time, the Klan was very anti-Catholic, and so my father had good personal reasons for not supporting the Klan.


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Response to Frances (Reply #7)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 11:27 AM

12. The "Silver" War is the way I remember hearing about it for the first time, too.

I was about five; we needed a good name for our "pow-pow-pow" war games, and someone suggested the 'silver' war, which sounded cool to me.

I didn't learn about the reality of it until a few years later.

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