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Sat Aug 12, 2017, 09:34 PM

Kentucky mayor responds to Charlottesville by doing exactly what white nationalists dont want

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/12/16139142/charlottesville-va-protests-lexington-mayor

Kentucky mayor responds to Charlottesville by doing exactly what white nationalists donít want
Things arenít working out for white supremacists.
Updated by German Lopez@germanrlopezgerman.lopez@vox.com Aug 12, 2017, 6:07pm EDT


White nationalists descended on Charlottesville, Virginia, on Friday and Saturday to protest the cityís decision to take down Confederate monuments. But not only have the protests done nothing to change Charlottesvilleís mind on this issue, itís apparently prompted at least one other city to speed up action to remove its Confederate statues as well.

Mayor Jim Gray of Lexington, Kentucky, made the announcement on Twitter on Saturday:







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This is the exact opposite of what the white nationalists marching in Charlottesville wanted. But by trying to impose their will on other cities, they have actively sped up the very thing theyíre protesting against.

The protests themselves went seriously wrong, with brawls breaking out throughout the two days and a car crashing into counterprotesters demonstrating against white nationalists. Charlottesville Mayor Mike Signer and the University of Virginia Medical Center have confirmed that at least one person died and at least 19 are being treated for injuries as a result of the entire dayís events.

Seeing these events, itís not hard to imagine why a mayor would want to act quickly to condemn such hate and violence. Mayor Gray is just taking it one step further, fast-tracking plans to take down monuments that commemorate a group of rebels who literally fought to keep slavery in America.

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Reply Kentucky mayor responds to Charlottesville by doing exactly what white nationalists dont want (Original post)
babylonsister Saturday OP
Historic NY Saturday #1
shenmue Saturday #2
Gore1FL Saturday #9
Qutzupalotl Saturday #3
Ilsa Saturday #4
Boomerproud Saturday #6
Beartracks Sunday #13
Barack_America Saturday #7
politicat Saturday #11
barbtries Saturday #12
Ilsa Sunday #20
Barack_America Saturday #5
Honeycombe8 Saturday #8
AlexSFCA Saturday #10
Beartracks Sunday #14
SCVDem Sunday #19
Stonepounder Sunday #15
roamer65 Sunday #16
Nevernose Sunday #17
Tatiana Sunday #18

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 09:39 PM

1. Somebody ought to find one big ass garbage truck

to pickup the trash

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Response to Historic NY (Reply #1)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 09:47 PM

2. Amen

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Response to Historic NY (Reply #1)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 10:53 PM

9. I'd rather recycle the metal into playground equipment for poor minority children.

I'd be wasteful to just throw it away when we could piss off the alt-right twice.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 09:48 PM

3. Confederates? You mean TRAITORS?

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 10:29 PM

4. It all needs to go into museums.

I don't want people to forget our history. We don't need these statues in the general public to honor them. They need to be aids to remember our history in museums.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #4)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 10:33 PM

6. Agree.

My SIL just got back from Poland, Czech Republic and Germany and said there are monuments everywhere about WWII and Nazi atrocities. Forgetting or whitewashing history is not the answer.

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Response to Boomerproud (Reply #6)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:05 AM

13. "Forgetting or whitewashing history is not the answer."

It bears repeating.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #4)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 10:34 PM

7. The images can be preserved. The actual relics need to be destroyed.

There's no need to preserve that which glorifies racism.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #4)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 11:21 PM

11. Most of those statues were the product of late Victorian mawkishness.

Installed in the 1880s, 1890s and 1900s. They are the last remnants of the zombie capital extracted from enslaved people, and they were erected in the same spirit of worshipping the dead that erected the horror that is the Albert Memorial -- a societal failure to cope with loss, a refusal to admit wrong-doing, and hagiography of people who were anything but saints. Victoria at least had good reason -- Albert was a fairly decent human being and a good husband and father. But her grief made it fashionable to engage in a sort of conspicuous consumption and display of wealth in lionizing dead traitors.

Without that context, the only thing that moving a statue to a museum does is to endanger actual art and history and the people doing the work.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #4)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 11:45 PM

12. I agree.

they should be included in museums with the history of the civil war. what they fought for, why it is good that they lost.

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Response to barbtries (Reply #12)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 07:40 AM

20. Absolutely. NT

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 10:32 PM

5. That's wonderful. And I'm sorry, but that Lee statue in VA needs to blow up..

...literally, and as soon as possible.

No more of this.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 10:43 PM

8. He's a brave man. Good for him. We need to stand up to the Nazis. Not in our America.

We need to get Democrats in all offices at every opportunity. And speak out.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 11:07 PM

10. now is the perfect time to put pressure on all public

buildigs that still display confederate flags. Make them go defensive and on record.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:08 AM

14. Our vets didn't fight WWII so Nazis could have a say here. n/t


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Response to Beartracks (Reply #14)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 01:25 AM

19. Well.......

Remember Werner Von Braun and the space program?

There are always exceptions.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:35 AM

15. Proud to show the rest of the US that not all of Kentucky is McConnell & Rand Paul

The Dems are taking a page from the GOP playbook and starting at the grassroots local level Mayor Gray id a Democrat. And good for him for delivering a slap in the fact to the White Nationalists and Nazis.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 01:05 AM

16. Hire a cheap bulldozing company, Mr Gray.

Do it on Monday!

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 01:08 AM

17. How would those assholes feel about statues of

Osama Bin Laden or Timothy McVeigh? Because they're on the same par, except the two I mentioned, as opposed to the Confederates, are arguably responsible for LESS human misery.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 01:18 AM

18. And this is why it is good to try to elect Democrats in red states.

They are more likely to demonstrate excellent decision-making and strong leadership in the face of right-wing fascism.

Good for Mayor Gray.

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