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Sat Aug 12, 2017, 07:07 PM

Just to put a finer point on this

THESE are the famed "WHITE working class" voter we are supposed to find a way to embrace.
Not sure that is working so well...

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Reply Just to put a finer point on this (Original post)
Horse with no Name Aug 2017 OP
eleny Aug 2017 #1
mcar Aug 2017 #2
BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #3
ATL Ebony Aug 2017 #4
Tatiana Aug 2017 #5
lunamagica Aug 2017 #6
hedda_foil Aug 2017 #7
Willie Pep Aug 2017 #8

Response to Horse with no Name (Original post)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 07:08 PM

1. There's just no way to embrace madness

Rec'd

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Response to Horse with no Name (Original post)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 07:08 PM

2. These people, and their enablers, disgust me

I'm looking at you, NYT, with your constant Trump voter paeans.

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Response to Horse with no Name (Original post)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 07:17 PM

3. Embracing them is equal to hugging a porcupine.

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Response to Horse with no Name (Original post)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 07:47 PM

4. K&R

I sincerely hope those folks are GONE and will not be heard from again! Prayers for Charlottesville and those having to witness and fight the bigotry displayed in your community. Stay strong.

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Response to Horse with no Name (Original post)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 07:49 PM

5. They are truly deplorable.

And I want nothing to do with them. Just like we shouldn't negotiate with terrorists, I think we just need to find a way to drown them out and overwhelm them at the polls. Marginalize them and make them irrelevant.

Getting Trump out of office would be a great first step, in that regard.

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Response to Horse with no Name (Original post)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 10:11 PM

6. K&R.

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Response to Horse with no Name (Original post)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 11:20 PM

7. No. They're not.

Nobody in or around the party, out to the farthest of its environs, has ever even for a moment considered going after the neo-Nazi, KKK, alt. right end of the farthest far right. I hope you're just being facetious, because if you really mean it, you might consider a little downtime from the wars of the poseurs.

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Response to Horse with no Name (Original post)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 11:37 PM

8. Because affluent whites can't be fascists?

Richard Spencer comes from a wealthy Southern landowning family.

See: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/03/richard-spencer-cotton-farms-louisiana-subsidies/

The social base of fascism has always been diverse including everyone from small business owners to farmers to bureaucrats, solders and some working-class people.

Trump's hardcore base had a household income of around $70,000 which is higher than the national median and included plenty of well-educated people.

https://newrepublic.com/article/138754/blame-trumps-victory-college-educated-whites-not-working-class

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/06/05/its-time-to-bust-the-myth-most-trump-voters-were-not-working-class/?utm_term=.a8a932edbb71

I think some liberals like to believe that Trump supporters are all ignorant hillbillies or basement-dwelling malcontents. It is a comforting narrative because you can blame the election on a group that is seen as obviously retrograde. But the truth is that a lot of Trump supporters are quite successful and likely work with you in nice offices and have degrees on their wall. Affluent people can be racist just as much as or even more than working-class people.

EDIT: Also, I doubt that anyone pushed for trying to reach out to the hardcore racist contingent in the Trump coalition. These folks will never vote for Democrats. The Trump voters we need to reach out to are the Obama-Trump voters. These are swing voters who I doubt are white nationalist types especially if they voted for Obama, sometimes twice!

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