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NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 02:05 AM Aug 2017

Elitists

We Democrats have been called many things by our friends across the aisle, but the term “elitists” is the most amusing in its complete disregard for the facts. But then our GOP friends are known for disregarding facts, so no surprise there.

We’re the Party that wants to ensure that everyone eligible to vote actually gets to vote. When it comes to the right to cast a ballot, we don’t distinguish between those who are likely to vote for us and those who will probably vote against us. We are, and always have been, the Party that champions the right to vote above any consideration of who our fellow citizens will ultimately vote for.

We want all American children to have the best education possible, and believe that college should be affordable for all who choose to continue that education beyond high school. We do not see the poorly-educated as an easily-manipulated “base” that can be conveniently misled into supporting us. We see them as people who have a right to reach their full potential regardless of their financial circumstances, or their political leanings.

We want the minimum wage raised. We don’t believe that those who wait tables or wash dishes for a living should be forced to work for wages that don’t even cover the necessities of life. We recognize that a person’s worth should be measured by their work ethic, and not by their occupation.

We want all Americans to have the same opportunities, the same chance to succeed – regardless of gender, race, religion, or ethnicity. We do not see those who are “different” as being somehow unworthy of being an integral part of the whole. We welcome those differences as a source of our nation’s strength, not as a weakness to be vilified.

We want stronger social safety nets that assist the hungry and the homeless. We do not put our own individual desires above the needs of those who require a helping hand. We believe that bettering the lives of every individual leads to the betterment of all.

We want our LGBT brothers and sisters to have the same rights as everyone else. We do not see rights afforded to them as somehow diminishing anyone else’s rights in any way.

We want wealthy individuals and corporations to pay their fair share of taxes. We do not view tax-cuts for certain individuals and companies as a position to be aspired to – we see it as a shirking of responsibility to our nation as a whole.

We want all Americans to have access to affordable healthcare – and we’re not afraid to pay higher taxes so that those in need of medical care can have it, even if it’s on our dime. We understand that the welfare of our fellow citizens contributes to the welfare of all citizens.

“Elitists” look down their noses at those they perceive to be beneath them. They seek to marginalize them, ignore them, and ultimately dismiss them as unimportant and unworthy of consideration. They don’t stand up for them; they don’t fight their fight.

“Elitists” put their own concerns above the needs of those they see as “not them”. They see those who are disadvantaged – by virtue of financial circumstances or anything else – as worthy of scorn.

Of all the labels that have been attached to Democrats, the term “elitists” is the most laughable, the most ridiculous-on-its-face, the most ludicrous application of a term to a Party that continues to represent the exact opposite of elitism.

The latte-sipping, Christian-hating, designer-wearing atheist who demands the best table in the latest “in” restaurant stereotype of we “elitist” Democrats is as credible as the concept of a 6,000-year-old flat earth.

Look at which party is looking down their noses at the working poor, the “different”, the homeless, the sick, the poverty-stricken – and tell me again who the “elitists” are.

And while you’re at it, you can tell me again how the Democratic Party no longer stands for the hard-working middle-class – another myth currently spewed out of the asshole of some RW think-tank that hopes to convince the easily-led.

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Elitists (Original Post) NanceGreggs Aug 2017 OP
Let me be the first to K&R. Jack-o-Lantern Aug 2017 #1
K & R AJT Aug 2017 #2
Read Democracy in Chains Gabi Hayes Aug 2017 #3
"A government stripped to maintaining law and order and national defense" Caliman73 Aug 2017 #25
A book Roy Rolling Aug 2017 #4
Wait wut? Bladewire Aug 2017 #5
Maybe I've been living under a rock but I never heard Dems called elitists BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #6
. . . when the dirtbag base was coalescing annabanana Aug 2017 #8
Geez! I'm starting to think as far as the voting public is concerned: BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #19
That charge has been used in the past. Caliman73 Aug 2017 #27
Umm.. Remember "Cloth Coat Republicans"? annabanana Aug 2017 #7
Yes, it was famously said by Richard Nixon. Republicans have ALWAYS been of and for the rich. WinkyDink Aug 2017 #32
This Has Been A Liberal Problem For Years ProfessorGAC Aug 2017 #9
It's the spawn of the anti-intellectual stream in our politics. annabanana Aug 2017 #20
Mea Culpa ProfessorGAC Aug 2017 #30
K&R. nt DLevine Aug 2017 #10
Yeah. Every decade is Opposite Decade in the GOP. Orsino Aug 2017 #11
KnR sheshe2 Aug 2017 #12
K&R HAB911 Aug 2017 #13
Wonderful...thank you for another thoughtful inspiring post nt Fresh_Start Aug 2017 #14
And thank you ... NanceGreggs Aug 2017 #22
Kick. dalton99a Aug 2017 #15
Your astute observations The Wizard Aug 2017 #16
They have always been good at projecting their own flaws mcar Aug 2017 #17
WTG Nance Gothmog Aug 2017 #18
Look at the last 3 GOP presidential candidates crazycatlady Aug 2017 #21
i remember being called a latte drinking, volvo DesertFlower Aug 2017 #23
Brilliant writing! NurseJackie Aug 2017 #24
Another great post. smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #26
Kick and recommended ismnotwasm Aug 2017 #28
K&R! gademocrat7 Aug 2017 #29
K and R oasis Aug 2017 #31
Wealthy Yalie GHWB said Dukakis was of "Harvard boutiques." Let's face it: Republicans WinkyDink Aug 2017 #33
 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
3. Read Democracy in Chains
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 02:41 AM
Aug 2017
https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/nancy-maclean/

At the center of MacLean’s book is Nobel Prize-winning economist James McGill Buchanan, who died in 2013 at age 93. Largely bankrolled by Charles Koch and other deep-pocketed misanthropic libertarians throughout most of his career from the mid-1950s onward, Buchanan latched onto public choice theory to become its leading promoter. Buchanan assumed self-interest primarilymotivated politicians, bureaucrats, union organizers, civil rights activists, and others, MacLean says. He cast public service in a deeply cynical light and denigrated the idea of “we the people” and the common good. Where the common good leads, Buchanan thought, is to an out-of-control government that destroys individual liberty.

The movement’s ultimate goal is capitalism free from government interference, and a government essentially stripped to maintaining law and order and national defense. Its adherents want to privatize most public services, especially public schools and Social Security. They have adopted the language of conservatism, and have successfully hijacked the Republican Party in the process, but they are not conservative in the traditional sense. Most people would not support the movement’s extreme libertarian vision if its adherents didn’t couch it in appeals to a benign personal freedom.

The final prescription of Buchanan’s career was “constitutional revolution”—a rewriting of the rulebook to unleash free-market fundamentalism and prevent majorities of voters from ever being able to effect change. This revolution would turn the Constitution’s checks and balances into locks and bolts, and can be heard in present-day calls by Republican governors and legislators for a convention of the states to amend the Constitution.

“This is a cause that has its own morality, and it’s a morality that is foreign to most of us,” MacLean says. “We need to understand that they truly believe that if people need to die to teach full self-reliance from government, then that’s a price that they’re willing to pay.”


Caliman73

(11,728 posts)
25. "A government stripped to maintaining law and order and national defense"
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 06:33 PM
Aug 2017

That is essential to the hypocrisy of the libertarians and conservative billionaires. They only want government large enough to protect their interests, their property, and nothing else.

Self reliance my ass. They were the same whiny bastards that cried for the Army to come save them from Native Americans when they were stealing their land, then claiming that they made it on their own and didn't need no stinkin government telling them not to poison the towns water supply with their mills and oil wells.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
6. Maybe I've been living under a rock but I never heard Dems called elitists
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 04:30 AM
Aug 2017

until the last few years. When did it get started?

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
8. . . . when the dirtbag base was coalescing
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 05:44 AM
Aug 2017

They started to pretend that the Very very very rich were, in fact, the champions of the very very poor..

(Oh, and I understand there's this great bridge available in NY)

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
19. Geez! I'm starting to think as far as the voting public is concerned:
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 09:34 AM
Aug 2017

"You CAN fool some of the people ALL of the time". This applies when the country has so many fools. I wish they were the ones who stayed home on election day.

Caliman73

(11,728 posts)
27. That charge has been used in the past.
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 07:02 PM
Aug 2017

There were charges against Adlai Stevenson being a pointy headed intellectual and charges against "Northern Liberal elites" since the 1950's and 60's.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
7. Umm.. Remember "Cloth Coat Republicans"?
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 05:42 AM
Aug 2017

Those were Republicans without fur coats. They used to be a (good) thing.

That was the last time they weren't an elitist party.

ProfessorGAC

(64,990 posts)
9. This Has Been A Liberal Problem For Years
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 05:59 AM
Aug 2017

Good piece, Nance. Our side has yet to figure out how to neutralize the Luntz effect on politics
That crowd has done a better marketing job in framing the debate.
They have redefined terms, and no matter how wrong, have become accepted in the mainstream
This might be our start, by taking back the definition of elite, and repainting the image. Make it clear that THEY are the elitists and that many of them are from the coast, making them the dreaded coastal elites.
Frank Luntz is hardly a genius! Where are our counter-messaging marketers?

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
20. It's the spawn of the anti-intellectual stream in our politics.
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 09:49 AM
Aug 2017

Education is elite.. (before the institution of the Public School System)..

The erosion of Public support for all our schools has reignited the divide. If you know stuff by studying it, you are suspect.

Prof, you elite "know-stuff" guy!

ProfessorGAC

(64,990 posts)
30. Mea Culpa
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 05:28 AM
Aug 2017

Me and my silly extra education!
Glad you pointed out my wasted time!
Of course, I'm kidding and agreeing with you wholly

The Wizard

(12,541 posts)
16. Your astute observations
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 09:01 AM
Aug 2017

and commentary improve my day and validate my belief that I'm not in an alternate Universe.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
21. Look at the last 3 GOP presidential candidates
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 09:56 AM
Aug 2017

If Democrats are elitists, then just look at the net worth of Hillary Clinton vs Donald Trump. Or Barack Obama vs Mitt Romney or John McCain (ok the latter married into money).

The only person I know IRL who I'd consider an elitist is my brother in law. He works for a conservative think tank. His elitism first hit me during the Katrina aftermath. HE said "well they should have just gotten in their cars and left" not realizing that some people can't afford cars. It was a very 'let them eat cake' moment. In the years since, he's made fun of me because I don't lease late model cars, choose not to buy a house (even if I won the powerball), and not keeping up with the trends in fine dining restaurants (my tastes are more McDonald's). Every time I see him he asks me why I don't have a passport and says people should always have one (I will get one if international travel is in the near future, but I'm not spending the $$ when it is not. My drivers license works fine as an ID). I also remember him complaining that his trip to Spain was a coach ticket not first class.

Yet Democrats are the elitists....

DesertFlower

(11,649 posts)
23. i remember being called a latte drinking, volvo
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 05:39 PM
Aug 2017

driving elitist when i supported obama back in '08. i've never been in a starbucks or had a latte, and i still drive my '05 mazda miata.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
33. Wealthy Yalie GHWB said Dukakis was of "Harvard boutiques." Let's face it: Republicans
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 06:58 AM
Aug 2017

have always thrived on Big Money and Big Lies.

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