well we tried. it isn't working. i guess we might as well give up now. (concern trolling)

[arely staircase]

has anyone noticed how that meme pops up around here whenever we get the repubs on the ropes? it goes hand in hand with "we should stop this and take the high road" and "average americans don't care about that, we need to stick to issues."

[Angry Dragon]

1. Give to them as they give

[roguevalley]

39. even bill clinton. do you remember a few ago that he said bain should not be a part of the

campaign and used against him because he had a 'stellar business career'? (Some say stellar, some say sterling.)

Gawd. I could slap that man.

[roguevalley]

40. links for anyone with a concern

http://frontporchpolitics.com/2012/06/bill-clinton-romney-had-sterling-career/

"Well now it seems that even Bill Clinton is promoting Mitt Romney. In an interview on CNN that Romney was “over the threshold” for being qualified to be president.

"Clinton spoke of not only his past experience as governor of Massachusetts, but also his private sector entrepreneurialship, which he referred to as a “stellar career.”

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/06/ann-romney-mentions-bill-clintons-compliment-on-the-campaign-trail/

While campaigning for her husband in Miami Tuesday, Ann Romney mentioned President Bill Clinton’s compliment of Mitt Romney last week, while she tried to woo voters in the battleground state.

“I saw him always just being as Bill Clinton said, a ‘stellar’ businessman. I’m so glad we heard that from someone else besides me,” she said, slightly misquoting the former president. ”Because he was, in every way it was stellar and it was amazing how much confidence people put in him, and he really had something that I think is unique that we sometimes forget how important it is and that is good judgment.”

Clinton actually used the word “sterling” to describe Mitt Romney’s business career, not stellar — but still quite the compliment for the competition. “The man who has been governor and had a sterling business career crosses the qualification threshold,” Clinton said, in an interview with CNN, referring to Romney.

[DonCoquixote]

76. Bill will always offer the GOP help

Until his wife gives him that 3rd and fourth term in office.

[valerief]

56. Mr. NAFTA and Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000. Surprising.

[n2doc]

79. Well, he's part of the industry now

At least his daughter married into the financial biz. And I'm sure he get lots of $$$ from the banisters in speaking fees and 'donations' to his charities.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

2. That's not happening with the Bain story.

The Obama campaign is going all-out to pursue the Mittster on this one.

There's at least one very hard-hitting ad out on this topic.

Obama won't back down on this one.

[lunatica]

4. That's the reason the Democrats are so far ahead

They're framing the issues and setting the talking points.

I hope it gives Rove and Cheney heartburn.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

6. Exactly! I hope it gives them worse than heartburn!

my dear lunatica!

[pscot]

19. I was thinking massive coronary

[magical thyme]

66. or short out the circuitry in Cheney's case. nt

[awoke_in_2003]

32. "They're framing the issues and setting the talking points"...

after so many years, all I can say is "Finally". Feels good, doesn't it?

[arely staircase]

5. it is happening

read some of the ops on gd. no it isn't working, and we won't fall for it and let up on mittens. but the concern trolling is definitely happening.

[MADem]

55. See--Mittsy IS a job creator!!!

Wonder if they get minimum wage or are paid by the piece?

[arely staircase]

64. my thoughts exactly. nt

[JDPriestly]

37. The issue is who Romney got his money from, what he did with it,

and whether he paid his fair share in taxes on it. Also, how much of his money was earned or deducted from taxes thanks to his political pull.

And, who gave him the money to become a multi-millionaire, to whom he owes money, will demonstrate to the American people just how money and power work.

If Romney is elected, to whom will he owe his allegiance? That is the question that lurks behind the Bain Capital scandal.

Who controls Romney? Who does he work for? Who invested and loaned to him and his companies? Is he for real or a front for some person or interest groups?

We need to ask that about every politician, but especially about a man as wealthy as Romney, a man who is supported by very wealthy interests, perhaps not all of them American.

[Politicalboi]

3. This is what they want us to think

It is working, and after the weekend it could be real bad for Rmoney. If Ron Paulbots take over Rmoney's delegates, Ron Paul can be nominated at the convention. LOL!

This whole shit storm might shake up some of Rmoney's delegates. LOL!

[TeamPooka]

13. could you imagine if Newt or Ricky had known this 6 months ago?

they'd still all be wrestling like greased pigs.
This might be enough to get them back into the fight.
Seriously though are all Republican candidates going to line up and try to explain Mitt's lies away?
We need to pin all GOP candidates on their position about falsifying government documents...

[magical thyme]

67. some of them are already distancing themselves

2 or 3 told interviewers yesterday that he needs to release more years of tax returns. At least 6 or 7 according to one of them.

[maryellen99]

68. Gingrich knew

Didn't he release a short documentary called "When Bain comes to Town"? back during the primaries?

[TeamPooka]

71. that was just the old Kennedy attacks

this is new info and if Newt had it then he would have gone nuclear on the Mittens, IMHO

[former9thward]

14. Ron Paul has about as much chance being nominated as you or I.

And that is not much.

[Tx4obama]

7. It is working. No one is giving up.

[arely staircase]

9. and the more it works

the more "concerned" they become.

[Chorophyll]

16. So let the concern trolls be concerned.

This might actually the most "concerned" thread I've seen today.

[arely staircase]

18. lulz nt

[randome]

20. I agree. I haven't seen much hand-wringing, either.

[sabrina 1]

41. I have. Lot's of 'let's take the high road' concerns.

Poor Republicans, we are supposed to play nice, and be all 'bi-partisan' and 'compromising' because the 'experts' know that is 'what the people want to see' they don't want to see 'bickering' etc. etc.

This has been Third Way policy that we on the LEFT never agreed with but were constantly told to STFU about.

[Jack Sprat]

8. And after they have been so nice

calling the President Obama a socialist, a Kenyan, tax and spend liberal, and all those gentle niceties they heap upon him. They even give him full credit for running up Bush's debt

[Cheap_Trick]

10. Fuck these bastards. I want to grind them under my heel.

I want to see them driven before me and hear the lamentations of their women.

[TeamPooka]

15. i like how you think

[pscot]

22. The thought of Anne Coulter chained to a post

has a certain undeniable appeal.

[DonCoquixote]

77. I will see your post

and add a joan of arc style bonfire beneath her feet.

Sorry feminists, then again, most LGBT would be pouring gasoline on said pyre.

[Solomon]

47. Damn. You owe me a smartphone.

Shit I'm still laughing.

[MrSlayer]

50. That is what is best in life.

Even a barbarian knows that.

[coalition_unwilling]

54. Along with those lamentations, I needs me some good ole-fashioned

gnashing of teeth and rending of garments!

[PCIntern]

57. Positively lyrical!!! Thanks! Nt

[BumRushDaShow]

11. +infinity n/t

[patrice]

12. That's funny, they better HOPE we stay on this & don't switch to LIBOR any time soon. nt

[arely staircase]

27. bain ain't over by a long shot

but it is by no means the only handgrenade catching willard and his folks will be doing this year.

[patrice]

29. I want to know more about his state tax returns from 2010. Was he living in his son's

unfurnished basement?????

[arely staircase]

42. havent

heard that one. But it sounds awesome/horrible, depending on which you are.

[patrice]

45. He said he was living in his son's unfurnished basement, so he could vote in MA

special election 2010. If his state tax return shows that was not his actual residence, Mitt Romney is guilty of the voting fraud, accusations of which the Republicans are using as an excuse to suppress the votes all across this country.

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=9397

[brush]

53. I heard something about that

I heard something about that, but he was only using the address for residency requirements or something because you know born-with-a-silverspoon-in-the-moutn Mitt ain't living in nobody's basement. This dirt will probably come out to as the election nears, courtesy of the Obama campaign of course.

[patrice]

61. Voter Fraud is one of their big national issues. If Romney is guilty of Voter Fraud . . . !!!

They are using Voter Fraud as an excuse to engage in vote suppression.

[msanthrope]

17. I'm just waiting for the next Greenwald/drone/Obama teh evil post....nt

[pinboy3niner]

21. Don't fall for the roos

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=916391

[Z_I_Peevey]

24. The 'roos!

While the 'roos are undeniably attractive animals, we can't fall for them. That would be wrong. Beastly wrong.

I love the smell of a new Freeperism in the morning.

[arely staircase]

28. i'm more partial to wallabees. nt

[pinboy3niner]

30. Well, you WOULD be, wouldn't you?!1!!

[Warren DeMontague]

58. Another instant classic, for sure.

[Odin2005]

62. Oh, that is priceless!

[Quantess]

23. (pretend hand-wringing)... WE are above all that.

Besides, we will look like fools and like bullies.
We need to be the nice ones. Don't stoop to their level!

And we need to remember that we will all look bad when the accusations turn out to be wrong.

Why would Romney not have all his ducks in a row when he's running for president?
Anyway, we will look like conspiracy theorists.

We will look bad.

Did I miss anything?

[arely staircase]

25. yes you did

you missed a new type of concern trolling - handwringing over someone pointing out the concern trolling. just read upthread.

[Quantess]

26. You have sharper eye than I do. (no text)

[xxqqqzme]

34. Where's

3rd way Manny when you need him?



First post from my tablet. I've gone to the dark side!

[pinboy3niner]

48. Mission accomplished!

[judesedit]

31. Time to fight fire with fire. Stop dancing around the facts. Speak out loud & clear so all will unde

rstand. Stop playing footsies. Please. For all of our sakes.

[sadbear]

33. We got our foot on their fucking throats

The only way they can win is if we let up before the election is over.

[backscatter712]

81. The correct thing for the Democrats to do right now is STOMP! n/t

[A Simple Game]

35. The only person I've seen that from is you. Don't like it, don't do it. n/t

[Paka]

36. But working it is, so we need to keep at it.

We need to hammer away at each and every nail of the coffin to put Mittwit in. We can't let him and his society "entitlement" wife anywhere near the White House. I find it quite pleasurable to watch him squirm.

[arely staircase]

46. +1 nt

[chknltl]

38. Some cases I may be mistaken for a concern troll...but not in this case.

In this case pedal to the metal in sticking it to mittens! One caveat though:

let this not be a full on destraction from other important things we could ALSO be paying attention too. Don't get me wrong, I am glad--no, make that relieved as hell that romney is 'Pullin' a Palin' but i believe we can walk and chew gum at the same time.

For example, are you aware that there is a group of Americans in Wisconsin trying to perform a ballot recount...what they have found so far, is nothing short of spectacular to say the least. Imo, their story should be even bigger than the mittster implosion but right now it is not. Check out what they have found, what they are trying to accomplish and if possible give them what aid you can.:
http://wisconsinwave.org/handcount

[arely staircase]

44. certainly doesnt

mean nothing else will be discussed. but right now mitt Romney has some 'spalinin' to do.

[Monk06]

43. Just say fuck off and die, concern trolls and FR agit prop trolls. Go back and make RimJob rich.

[MrSlayer]

49. Yes, I hate the whole "We should be above that." horseshit.

Or "I'd rather lose honestly than win crookedly." Bullshit. That's a loser mentality. You think like that and you'll never win. I'm a step on their neck kind of guy and we should have rolled them when we had the chance in 09.

This is where we step on his neck and stay there for three and a half months. No letting him up, just kick the shit out him.

Besides, we don't actually have to do anything dirty or below the belt, there's so much true shit to hit him with, it never gets to ratfucker level. But if we had/have to go there, we should. It's their starting point.

[Odin2005]

51. The concern trolls are so predictable.

I've had it with the "high road", this is war.

[brush]

52. Not this time

This is true Chicago-style politics, bitch slaps included. The Obama campaign had no intention of backing off the Bain angle when kiss asses Cory Booker, Harold Ford and even Bill Clinton criticized them for going after Rmoney and Bain a few weeks back. They knew what they were doing and they kept at it with devastating ads in the red states against Bain, disclosing how American companies were gutted by loading them with millions of dollars worth of debt which was then pocketed by Bain even as the companys' assets were sold and pension funds raided before shutting the then bankrupted companies down, jobs of American workers be damned. If we step back a little and just observe, there is genius unfolding before us with how this campaign is being run. The President has played brilliant card after brilliant card with first his campaign's framing the repugs as waging a war on women; then his new, publicly stated position on Gay marriage; then his "dream act proclamation that energized the Latino community; then the SCOTUS even came thru with upholding the Affordable Care Act (remember months ago the President himself basically dared them to overthrow overthrow a legitimate piece of legislation passed by a Congressional majority); then the leaks on Rmoney's Swiss and Cayman Island, tax avoidance bank accounts began appearing; then finally the topper, that Rmoney was still Chairman, CEO and President of Bain when it controlled companies that help American firms do JOB OUTSOURCING, with the subsequent uproar that flared today and is just beginning (Rmoney's signature is on Bain documents as late as 2002). And if you think that all the Obama campaign's opposition research "dirt" has been spent, you don't know Chicago. Just wait until after the repug convention for additional haymakers sure to come upside Mitt's no-hair-out-of-place, carefully coiffured head.

[CreekDog]

59. Is this what you're referring to?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=54397

[randome]

60. Ugh.

[arely staircase]

63. yeah, and this too

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002943329

[arely staircase]

70. or this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=947071

[TBF]

65. On Facebook I saw one repug post today "let's not talk about politics -

I come to Facebook to post pictures of my grandchildren".

Funny how they never want to talk when their candidate is a douchebag ...

[maryellen99]

69. Like my mom

I called her and told her about Bain. I also made sure to bring up Stericycle to her because she's pro life. I got the old " you think Obama can do no wrong and is wonderful and Romney can do no right. She says she will probably vote for Obama...right mom.

One thing though if Romney's association with Stericycle doesn't bother her, I don't consider her pro-life anymore.

[Romulox]

72. The President needs a 100% positive plan for job growth. I won't apologize for saying so. nt

[arely staircase]

73. and so that means we can't air rmoney's dirty laundry?

it is a false dichotomy to claim that those are mutualy exclusive things. tell me, what is the main reason you are supporting the president in this election?

[arely staircase]

74. oh boy

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002949425

[arely staircase]

75. and now for today's dose of concern

It is boring. Unsexy, having to do with taxes, and obscure filings of reports, its not something that is interesting or "juicy". Most Americans aren't even paying attention, as the lazy days of summer are here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002957791

[arely staircase]

78. omg someone will say something stupid (today's concern)

Someone will say something over-the-top, someone will release an ad that says something questionably dishonest, the media will pounce,

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002968092

[backscatter712]

80. I'm surprised the tone-trolls haven't been louder.

You know...

"RUNNING NEGATIVE ATTACK ADS CALLING OUT ROMNEY ON BAIN IS MEAN!!!" (as opposed to what Rmoney did at Bain to all those now-unemployed workers...)

"WE HAVE TO BE CIVIL!" (No, as a matter of fact, we don't.)

"WE HAVE TO BE BETTER THAN THEY ARE!" (like Kerry did, remember?)

"WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES INSTEAD OF ATTACKING!" (and Romney's role at Bain and what it says about how he would behave as President isn't an issue?)

"WE CAN'T MAKE FUN OF ROMNEY OR CALL HIM NAMES! THAT'S CHILDISH AND FOX NEWS WILL SAY BAD THINGS ABOUT US!" (and being nice will mean they won't?)

And I have to keep saying it over and over. Never bring a Kumbaya to a gunfight! This race has bitch-slap politics right at the forefront, and if we're not giving bitch-slaps, we'll end up receiving them like Kerry did.

Aragorn gave the correct advice at Helm's Deep: "SHOW THEM NO MERCY, FOR YOU WILL RECEIVE NONE!"

[arely staircase]

82. + 1 nt