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Fri Aug 4, 2017, 09:08 PM

Harry Truman, on Republicans, said 70 years ago. Still relevant today.

"Republicans approve of the American farmer, but they are willing to help him go broke. They stand four-square for the American home — but not for housing. They are strong for labor — but they are stronger for restricting labor’s rights. They favor minimum wage — the smaller the minimum wage the better. They endorse educational opportunity for all — but they won’t spend money for teachers or for schools. They think modern medical care and hospitals are fine — for people who can afford them. They consider electrical power a great blessing — but only when the private power companies get their rake-off. They think American standard of living is a fine thing — so long as it doesn’t spread to all the people. And they admire of Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it. Now, my friends, that is the Wall Street Republican way of life. But there is another way — there is another way — the Democratic way, the way of the Democratic Party."

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Drunken Irishman Aug 4 OP
pangaia Aug 4 #1
elleng Aug 4 #2
jaysunb Aug 4 #11
BigmanPigman Aug 4 #3
elleng Aug 4 #5
BigmanPigman Aug 4 #8
elleng Aug 4 #10
jaysunb Aug 4 #18
elleng Aug 4 #19
brutus smith Aug 4 #21
elleng Aug 4 #22
rurallib Aug 4 #4
Left-over Aug 5 #36
FakeNoose Aug 4 #6
GreenEyedLefty Aug 4 #9
UTUSN Aug 4 #7
DarthDem Aug 4 #12
Scarsdale Aug 5 #28
aeromanKC Aug 4 #13
hibbing Aug 4 #14
Scarsdale Aug 5 #29
TuxedoKat Aug 5 #32
Binkie The Clown Aug 4 #15
rpannier Aug 5 #35
burrowowl Aug 4 #16
Dorn Aug 4 #17
jaysunb Aug 4 #20
rpannier Aug 5 #34
dflprincess Aug 4 #23
smirkymonkey Aug 4 #24
vicman Aug 4 #25
rpannier Aug 5 #33
calimary Aug 4 #26
Scarsdale Aug 5 #30
tomp Aug 5 #27
rpannier Aug 5 #31
dlk Aug 5 #37
zentrum Aug 5 #38
dhill926 Aug 5 #39
bucolic_frolic Aug 5 #40
C Moon Aug 5 #41
skip fox Aug 5 #42
progressoid Aug 5 #43
MRDAWG Aug 5 #44
Scurrilous Aug 5 #45
colsohlibgal Aug 5 #46
Blue_true Aug 5 #47
Raven123 Aug 5 #48
wiggs Aug 5 #50
SunSeeker Aug 5 #49
liberal N proud Aug 5 #51

Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 09:10 PM

1. WOW ! I NEVER EVER saw this ! And I was alive then, although not by much. :)))


The DNC should use THIS as their rallying cry !!!!!!!!!!

None of that "Onward into the future!" crap, or whatever it is this time...

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Response to pangaia (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 09:19 PM

2. Right, BACK to the future!

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Response to pangaia (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 09:46 PM

11. "Onward to the future" is good, but it has to be reenforced by this kind of

real talk/reminder.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 09:19 PM

3. How does the GOP keep conning people over and over?

This is why I said the fake prez would win up until Nov 8th...Americans are stupid! Actually I said, "Americans are dumber than dirt" but it is basically the same thing.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #3)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 09:30 PM

5. 'Nice' to call Americans 'stupid' and 'dumber than dirt,' might feel good, but

while it may be difficult, better maybe to understand and explain the reasons for many Americans to appear to have accepted repug propaganda, and try to overcome it.

Try repugs have deliberately dumbed down education for many years, and the vast success of corp-financed propaganda, and then let's try to remedy these wrongs.

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Response to elleng (Reply #5)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 09:40 PM

8. I agree. But with Sinclair and Circa gaining more and more media outlets

and less regulation where do you begin?

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #8)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 09:44 PM

10. Begin ELSEWHERE,

I don't know of ANYONE who has been persuaded by being called 'stupid and dumb.' We really MUST find a better way.

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Response to elleng (Reply #10)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 10:09 PM

18. While I agree with you as a fellow traveler, this kind of hate speech and

name calling seems to work for a large part of our population. Maybe it's time to stop with the niceties and get down in the gutter w/ this gang. They seem to really be drawn to this kind of "guidance."
Today's Republicans have not changed their stripes as to greed and selfishness, the only thing that's changed is the people that have been duped into supporting their own demise.

I like to be nice, but, sometimes you got to get dirty.

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Response to jaysunb (Reply #18)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 10:13 PM

19. Get dirty with the 'gang,' yes,

but their 'base,' the 'dupees,' no, I think, do some HARD work educating.

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Response to elleng (Reply #19)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 10:29 PM

21. Actually, we tried your way for the last 40 years

It didn't work. We should stop wasting time trying to "educate" them. It goes in one ear, out the other.

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Response to brutus smith (Reply #21)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 10:37 PM

22. I don't think 'we tried,'

we now know we must do so.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 09:24 PM

4. one of my favorite quotes

Thanks for reminding me

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Response to rurallib (Reply #4)

Sat Aug 5, 2017, 11:49 AM

36. I second your "Thank You"

Truman was an American and a statesman for the people.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 09:30 PM

6. Truman was awesome

I read this book a few years ago, Truman by David McCullough and I learned so much about the man.



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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #6)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 09:43 PM

9. That is an excellent book.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 09:37 PM

7. K&R, HST-forever!

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 09:49 PM

12. OMG, Look -


A real president.

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Response to DarthDem (Reply #12)

Sat Aug 5, 2017, 10:17 AM

28. Why is it

that the most sensible presidents have all been Democratic? The intelligent people are democratic voters and politicians. The gop are greedy, self serving asses. The arrogant, self promoting jerks like McConnell, Gingrich, McCain *yes, even him) are all condescending pricks. Maybe the low info voters like their politicians that way?

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 09:51 PM

13. Truman 1948 DNC Convention Speech Video

Its about 25 minutes long, and well worth the watch!!

He tells it like it is and gives the GOP Hell!!!!

https://www.c-span.org/video/?3389-1/harry-truman-accepts-1948-democratic-presidential-nomination

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Response to aeromanKC (Reply #13)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 09:56 PM

14. He's just telling the truth

And they think it's hell. If you are ever in Kansas City, I would strongly recommend a trip to Independence and the Truman Library. A funny thing if you have never read it is the letter he wrote to someone who gave a bad review to his daughter's singing performance, I think I have that right.


Peace

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Response to hibbing (Reply #14)

Sat Aug 5, 2017, 10:20 AM

29. Exactly

Now we have a president who refers to his daughter as "a fine piece of ass" on Howard Stern show. The jusy is out on that one, most men like women who can actually MOVE their faces!! Ivanka is so knock kneed she must sound like bones clattering when she walks.

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Response to hibbing (Reply #14)

Sat Aug 5, 2017, 10:43 AM

32. It's a beautiful library

So glad I got to visit. All of the presidential libraries are so interesting though.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 10:00 PM

15. Fake News! It was Hoover who said that about Democrats. Trump told me so. n/t

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Response to Binkie The Clown (Reply #15)

Sat Aug 5, 2017, 10:48 AM

35. I thought it was trump that said it himself

He has such a great brain and all that
Just ask him
His high IQ offends all the losers and haters

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 10:03 PM

16. K&R!!!!!!!!!!!

When will present day Dems grow a spine and be for the common people!

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 10:06 PM

17. What happened to the Republicans between Lincoln and Truman?

It is odd and sad that what was true in the 1940s is true in the 2010s, I think it was money that did it.

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Response to Dorn (Reply #17)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 10:27 PM

20. No, not money....

the Civil and voting rights act set the path we find ourselves at.

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Response to Dorn (Reply #17)

Sat Aug 5, 2017, 10:47 AM

34. They sold out to the moneyed eastern interests

By the time you get towards the late 19th century we're where we are today
Everyone grasping at the money from those who have almost all of it
It was only when Teddy became the 'Accidental President' that it was broken
One of the few good things of his warrior mentality, the meat he and his men got from the armour company in his supplies was tainted and he never forgot

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 10:41 PM

23. And as the Democratic party endorses the idea that a woman's right to make her own healthcare

decisions is debatable, let us remember that Truman also said:

“If a voter has a choice between a Republican and a Democrat who acts like a Republican, he’ll vote for the Republican every time.”

Sooner or later the Democratic party needs to figure out that Republican Lite loses elections.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 10:52 PM

24. I've never heard that.

Thank you for posting.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 11:18 PM

25. My dad said it best so many years ago

Both political parties steal money, the difference is, Republicans steal EVERYTHING. Democrats always leave something left for the little guy.

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Response to vicman (Reply #25)

Sat Aug 5, 2017, 10:43 AM

33. Democrats know eventually the wealthy will get the money

But, with them it starts in the hands of the little guy and works its way up

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 11:38 PM

26. We have all the good ones.

Give 'em hell, Harry! A humble haberdasher who had the weight of the world dropped on him one fateful day. He was probably the first (or one of the first) who was renowned for plain-speaking. Which produced that landmark quote: "the buck stops here." He kept a little sign on his Oval Office desk that bore that inscription.

trump should have one of those. But his would read: "the buck stops over there somewhere."

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Response to calimary (Reply #26)

Sat Aug 5, 2017, 10:24 AM

30. tRump's sign

would be "The buck stops in my bank account" He has to pay Don Jr. lawyer bills.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 5, 2017, 06:53 AM

27. yeah, while he was running the cold war with the dulles brothers...

...with brutal atrocities against burgeoning democracies around the world, creating enemies for the u.s., and leading to the exponential growth of "defense" expenditures.

Yeah, good old harry,

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 5, 2017, 10:42 AM

31. My favorite two have been and will always be

Suppose you were an idiot. Suppose you were a Republican. But, I repeat myself. (that was the 'For General Public' version)
The Republicans ran on, Two cars in every garage. Now they're running on two families in every garage.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 5, 2017, 11:52 AM

37. Give 'Em Hell Harry!

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 5, 2017, 11:57 AM

38. Myth of Ayn Rand Individualism

....serves the 1% perfectly.

Loved the old style Democrat's way of telling it like it is. He reminds me of Warren.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 5, 2017, 12:25 PM

39. plain, straight talk....

if Dems would just strongly stand up for their beliefs, couch them in words folks can easily understand...we would win.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 5, 2017, 01:02 PM

40. Really must read

David McCullough's biography of Truman is a good one.

If you're into presidential biographies, i heartily recommend Jean Edward Smith's biographies
of Marshall, Grant, FDR, Eisenhower, Bush (II)

Smith has elevated scholarship while popularizing the genre and the subjects, they are considered
most readable and very very well-researched and entertaining without swamping with minutiae.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 5, 2017, 01:13 PM

41. The GOP sell snake oil.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 5, 2017, 01:23 PM

42. My first president!

And he nails it.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 5, 2017, 02:15 PM

43. A fair amount of Democrats kind of forgot this too.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 5, 2017, 02:33 PM

44. This needs to be put on TV ads NOW!

Trump is a fraud telling people he will bring back their jobs. Republicans rolling back tariffs sent the jobs away.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 5, 2017, 02:49 PM

45. K&R

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 5, 2017, 05:34 PM

46. Great Quote

It would seem the Dixiecrats did not get what they bargained for. Roosevelt's VP in his 3rd term was Henry Wallace, an avowed democratic socialist. The Dixiecrats, realizing FDR was highly unlikely to live through his fourth term, worked hard to replace him with HST.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 5, 2017, 05:50 PM

47. Truman would be hated by the extreme left today as the ultimate bluedog. nt

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 5, 2017, 06:54 PM

48. Were it that we had more modern Dems who could frame the differences with the GOP so succinctly

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Response to Raven123 (Reply #48)

Sat Aug 5, 2017, 08:24 PM

50. Yes, for sure. But even more powerful if they just read his words out loud now,

after all this time the story is the same. It's not being made up just now by ODonnell or Warren...it's history. Should be an easy case to make given the history.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 5, 2017, 07:21 PM

49. K & R

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 5, 2017, 08:56 PM

51. The 10 Truest Things Harry Truman Said About Republicans


Truman also had this to say about Republicans


The 10 Truest Things Harry Truman Said About Republicans


#1. “The Republicans believe in the minimum wage — the more the minimum, the better.”


#2. “Richard Nixon is a no good, lying bastard. He can lie out of both sides of his mouth at the same time, and if he ever caught himself telling the truth, he’d lie just to keep his hand in.”


#3. “A bureaucrat is a Democrat who holds some office that a Republican wants.”


#4. “Republicans don’t like people who talk about depressions. You can hardly blame them for that. You remember the old saying: Don’t talk about rope in the house where somebody has been hanged.”


#5. “It’s an old political trick: “If you can’t convince ‘em, confuse ‘em.” But this time it won’t work.”

http://politicalconundrum.lefora.com/topic/19417303/The-10-Truest-Things-Harry-Truman-Said-About-Republicans

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