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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOut of curiosity, does Melania have any skills?
I mean, she certainly speaks English, but other than picking terrible, disgusting husbands, does she have any skills that make her eligible for citizenship?
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)Orrex
(63,199 posts)under Trump's "no non-white immigrants" policy, would it qualify as a skill?
lame54
(35,282 posts)virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)trueblue2007
(17,203 posts)virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)DK504
(3,847 posts)Warpy
(111,237 posts)a fat man and some of his staff.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)Escorting?
Docreed2003
(16,858 posts)Lmao!!
SweetieD
(1,660 posts)She may have spoken a few words but I doubt she was fluent. She can barely speak English now, 20 years later. Whenever she does interviews she typically sticks to a script and it is difficult for her to break from it. I'd like to hear her have a normal one hour conversation in English at college level, not just conversational.
I also doubt she speaks English at home with her parents and son. They probably are all speaking Slovenian.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,336 posts)Kidding. We all have accents.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Since you won't open the link about Larry King
This is an English-speaking country, remember? It must be a bizarre feeling to be Donald Trump and to have a multilingual son who, at one point, spoke English with a Slovenian inflection. (He has an accent? Larry King asked, in puzzlement, when the family appeared
Again it is the hypocrisy of saying English only when his own home probably has multiple languages spoken and if you read the link you would know his in laws in NYC appear to speak no English .
Again I don't care if they don't speak one word and his son has to speak Slovanian at home because everyone else is , it's the hypocrisy
Also if you don't know who Larry King is, he broadcast a talk show from the east coast for years
East coast show .
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,336 posts)unless you're from Boston or NY, in which case they don't sound anything alike.
Not surprising the kid sounds a little Slovenian. He's with his mother most of the time, so he probably even speaks some Slovenian.
It can take a few generations to completely lose a "foreign" accent.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Boston accents sound nothing like NYC accents or Slovanian accents imo
tblue37
(65,290 posts)If his father and siblings talked a lot with him, their accents would counterbalance hers, because they outnumber her. Also, if he verbally interacted much with his peers, that would tend to outweigh the influence of her accent.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)People tend to pick up the accent they hear around them. If he goes to school or has peers who he talks to or teachers he talks to he would sound like an American. If his father or uncles and aunt speak to him he would sound the way they do.
I have my doubts that he has a Slovenian accent, but I'm sure he can imitate his mother and her family quite easily.
At one point a went to a British schools for a few years and it was very easy for me to sound like I was British.
B2G
(9,766 posts)Lol. No.
LeftInTX
(25,224 posts)My dad grew up in a home where no one spoke English. He went to school not speaking a word of English. Neither he nor his siblings developed a foreign accent.
My husband grew up speaking English in a Mexican neighborhood. He has an accent.
beveeheart
(1,369 posts)It is true for some, of course, but many of my students pride themselves on losing their accents. Additionally, my ex-SIL has no accent even though his parents spoke Spanish in the home.
kskiska
(27,045 posts)As children they spent summers with their grandparents in the Czech Republic.
Zoonart
(11,845 posts)I expect several DUers to hit it out of the park.
MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)June Foray (RIP) aka Natasha Fatale? Well I am guessing she is adequate in the "servicing" sector also.
lpbk2713
(42,751 posts)I couldn't do that, so it must be some kind of special skill.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)New York Post had a good cover of her skills in a July '16 Sunday edition
CurtEastPoint
(18,638 posts)Orrex
(63,199 posts)That's my skill.
CurtEastPoint
(18,638 posts)Nay
(12,051 posts)COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)Kaleva
(36,294 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,295 posts)That goes for all the modelling photos I've seen, and it's her general demeanour since Trump became president. I presume various photographers or dress designers thought that worthwhile.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Resting Bitch Face or RBF for short.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=resting%20bitch%20face
Scientists can measure it too
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2016/02/02/scientists-have-discovered-the-source-of-your-resting-bitch-face/?utm_term=.3e6f4e5e6c8a
TexasBushwhacker
(20,165 posts)She purposely squints her eyes a little when being photographed. It gives her that smoldering look.
Chellee
(2,093 posts)If she keeps this up the corners of her eyes will end up over her ears.
Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)And if she wants smoldering eyes, there's a make-up technique that you can do yourself.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)DetlefK
(16,423 posts)A great model combines 3 things: the look, the talent, and work-discipline.
A model needs to be aware of her body, she needs to know how exactly to strike which pose without double-checking in a mirror.
I once saw the difference in a TV-ad: A female model and a female show-host were supposed to flash their eyes mischievously at the camera.
The show-host moved her eyebrows up and down.
The model ever-so-slightly moved her eye-lids, subtly changing the amount of white you can see in her eyes.
Orrex
(63,199 posts)I don't doubt that it's a skill that takes practice and experience to master.
Of course, I don't know if that would qualify as a skill under the Trump "no whites" immigration policy, but it's a skill nonetheless.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)And some truly plain or strange looking people look so much better in photographs. Something happens to transform them. I've cast models and sometimes it's hard to believe the pics you're looking at are the same person standing before you.
tblue37
(65,290 posts)too stiff and couldn't project different emotions.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)Turns out he is a douchebag. But still.
tblue37
(65,290 posts)kskiska
(27,045 posts)Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Not everyone who lives and works in NYC who calls themselves a "model" is really a model.
Just sayin'
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)mercuryblues
(14,530 posts)giving her son baths in caviar. Hey, she has to do something with all her unsold beauty products. Emulating her husband.
Weekend Warrior
(1,301 posts)She has been a successful model and has done commercials. She can also read a MO speech in front of a large audience. Not as good as MO, but she can still do it. More often than not, she pulls off the appearance that she loves Trump, not just his money. That has to be a skill considering how disgusting he is.
Orrex
(63,199 posts)Grammy23
(5,810 posts)where she talked about bathing her then 7 year old son nightly and slathering him from head to toe in her own brand of a caviar based lotion. If memory serves me, when my own son was that age, he didn't need mommy's help to bathe. As for slathering him in caviar, that sounds like some made up shit to reinforce how super rich they are.
So even in the "good mother" role, she might be a tad bit over the top. I think I read where he has a whole floor in tRump Tower that is his domain. I presume he has nannies and attendants to care for his every whim. So being a great mom isn't quite the challenge we peasants have.
Weekend Warrior
(1,301 posts)I see no problem with a mother bathing her seven year old son. I would also hope he could somewhat bathe himself at that point. Considering her and her husband are supposedly worth billions, I would have assumed they had very large living areas and nannies.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)She had also taught him to use creams and lotions on his face. I think he would be happier living a different life.
He also likes everything in white. His bedoom is stark white. He is an odd duck
Weekend Warrior
(1,301 posts)I imagine he will be different than what we perceive as the norm. That wouldn't be surprising at all. Nothing about his upbringing screams norm.
My child uses creams and lotions. I can't figure out why anyone would take issue with that. As for bathing a seven year old, fully acceptable and who cares.
LiberalArkie
(15,708 posts)washed behind his ears and other stuff that moms check with 7 year olds.
lindysalsagal
(20,648 posts)All the typical american housewife skills. Sure she is. Mother of the year.
And before anyone pounces, OF COURSE there are lots of American dads who provide such care as well.
The op was not about dads.
Weekend Warrior
(1,301 posts)I'm confident you are being tongue in cheek. It still appears she is very hands on and I give credit for that. She might even be protecting him from her husband.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Also she speaks several languages fluently.
Orrex
(63,199 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,166 posts)She scowls excellently.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Stands for Resting Bitch Face.
Google it. Lot's of information on that.
ismnotwasm
(41,975 posts)What comes up the most is she speaks 5 languages--although being multilingual isn't at all uncommon for any number of former immigrants, and I haven't seen it stated how well she speaks them.
Modeling is hard work, and is a skill--and she's a business owner. While being a famous model is a hard place to reach, modeling itself has a number of ways in, and there are many business owners. She doesn't seem to particularly stand out in either role.
So skills like what? I read she is good at public speaking, I don't know if she is a designer, or an artist, she seems fairly typical in many ways--when horrible taste in spouses--also not uncommon.
Orrex
(63,199 posts)Specifically, skills like skills that would qualify as skills under the latest iteration of Trump's racist immigration ban.
Another way to ask it is "if a Mexican or Syrian woman had the same skills as Melania, would they be welcomed into Trump's America?"
ismnotwasm
(41,975 posts)In my world of nursing, the Trump people I take care of object strongly to accents. They call it "can't even speak English" "I can't even understand a word she's saying" et al.
3catwoman3
(23,970 posts)pandr32
(11,574 posts)If I recall, she was said to speak them fluently, too, which strikes off English. I am not aware of a single recording of her speaking in anything other than Slovenian and poor English.
Claiming she walked the runways of major fashion houses in Paris and Milan as some top model seems suspect as well. Most modelling photos of her are stills in various states of undress and some girl on girl stuff. She has made a few magazine shots, but that is not the same as being a top runway model in the cities where she would have learned Italian and French while working their catwalks and fashion houses.
It seems that her modeling career may have been mostly pin-up stuff and rather unremarkable.
Her IQ and education claims have already fallen apart. She never finished a university degree of any kind and has never released results of an IQ test. In fact, she plagiarized Michelle Obama in a speech--so much for being brilliant.
kskiska
(27,045 posts)All I heard her say was very basic French that even I know. "Je mappelle Melania, et toi?"
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I really doubt very much that she has an ear for languages.
CountAllVotes
(20,868 posts)Total fraud like the rest of the tRumps!
meadowlander
(4,394 posts)and once you know one it's easy to pick up more. It's not uncommon in the Eastern Europe to meet people who speak ten or more "languages" (but in a larger country like China or India, that would be ten dialects rather than ten separate languages).
So it's plausible that she speaks, for example, Slovenian, English, Russian, Czech and Polish with varying degrees of fluency but probably less that she is fluent in totally different languages like Slovenian, English, Chinese, Portuguese and German.
BannonsLiver
(16,352 posts)backscatter712
(26,355 posts)maveric
(16,445 posts)SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)The current bunch of famous instamodels (Kendall/Gigi) wouldn't have made it when Melania was starting out because beyond having a unique look, you needed to know how to pose and walk then.
She also does a subpar Michelle Obama impersonation.
GallopingGhost
(2,404 posts)HAB911
(8,876 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)multitudes of women.
leftstreet
(36,103 posts)I think that's what this thread is about
The WH statements about skilled people only make me wonder if childrearing, once again, will be ignored and demeaned as not a skill
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Orrex
(63,199 posts)anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)ask whether or not his own policy that he holds so dear (or for that matter Steve Miller's family -- his uncle said that the Miller relatives - who were Russian Jews who changed their name after moving to the United States - did not speak English but rather Russian, Yiddish, and knew some liturgical Hebrew) would apply to his own family. And no, I don't think Trump and co plan to include "motherhood" as a "skill." In fact they stated that they want to end the practice of "chain immigration" which would end the practice of extended relatives (you know -- mothers like grandmothers etc) being allowed in based on a family member's status.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Orrex
(63,199 posts)I don't believe that any of the posts in this thread called her a non-human animal, so perhaps that might be the distinction?
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)centuries ago (e.g., those short Anglo-Saxon ones). So are we "protecting" the human here, or the canine?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitch_(slang)
"As a derogatory term for women, it has been in use since the fourteenth[5] or fifteenth century.[2] Its earliest slang meaning mainly referred to sexual behavior, according to the English language historian Geoffrey Hughes:[6]
The early applications were to a promiscuous or sensual woman, a metaphorical extension of the behavior of a bitch in heat. Herein lies the original point of the powerful insult son of a bitch, found as biche sone ca. 1330 in Arthur and Merlin ... while in a spirited exchange in the Chester Play (ca. 1400) a character demands: "Whom callest thou queine, skabde bitch?" ("Who are you calling a whore, you miserable bitch?" .
Bitch remained a strong insult through the nineteenth century. The entry in Francis Grose's Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue (1785) reads :
A she dog, or doggess; the most offensive appellation that can be given to an English woman, even more provoking than that of whore, as may be gathered from the regular Billinsgate or St Giles answer--"I may be a whore, but can't be a bitch."[7]
Throughout the words evolution into the nineteenth century, it lessened from Groses claim. The Oxford English Dictionary within the nineteenth century described the insult as strictly a lewd or sensual woman.[8] The word went through many similar phases throughout history.
It was not until the 20th century that feminism began to reevaluate the term and its appropriation."
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BTW: I never use the term. I'm strictly about what I perceive as rank hypocrisy.
JoeStuckInOH
(544 posts)just don't bring sexuality/gender into it, MMmmKkay?
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)True?
Rollo
(2,559 posts).
vlyons
(10,252 posts)nt
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,578 posts)The jewelry line has also been accused of cutting corners. Melanias QVC line consists of, by her own admission, inexpensive versions of other high-end pieces she owns. These replicas are manufactured in China, despite her husbands opinion that China has rebuilt itself with the money its sucked out of the United States and the jobs that its sucked out of the United States. (Donalds now-discontinued clothing brand was manufactured in his also much-maligned Mexico.)
The Daily Beast
Buy American, suckers!
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Besides, isn't she good at makeup or something?
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)obvious to me that the OP's question is reasonable.
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,648 posts)But she is great at keeping every hair in place, covering her roots, showing no tan or panty lines, preventing skirt wrinkle on af1, and she hardly ever breaks a nail...
trueblue2007
(17,203 posts)ttps://
syringis
(5,101 posts)Tell me about a "classy" first Lady Y
Yes...really
She should throw away her dresses, if a half yard of fabric that barely covers either butt or breasts, but in anyway both, can be called so, and dress a toge or some Roman Empire clothes.
With her NY interior design, it will make a bit coherence
gilbert sullivan
(192 posts)moonscape
(4,673 posts)faking constant, regular, debilitating migraines.
gilbert sullivan
(192 posts)Response to Orrex (Original post)
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gilbert sullivan
(192 posts)having to do with what Trump said yesterday about immigrant 'control'.
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Sneederbunk
(14,289 posts)nolabear
(41,959 posts)Who knew it would be a hot political skill?
kskiska
(27,045 posts)Nothing else is evident. She's said it takes an hour and a half to do her face.
3catwoman3
(23,970 posts)That is ridiculous.
I am up, showered, shampooed, conditioned, legs shaved, feet buffed, hair dried and styled, dressed, lunch made, and out the door on my way to see my first patient, all in an hour and a half.
janx
(24,128 posts)she doesn't have a job.
jmowreader
(50,552 posts)Models' makeup takes one to three hours to apply, because everything about it has to be absolutely perfect.
Skittles
(153,142 posts)she ain't no Michelle
JoeStuckInOH
(544 posts)Is this a 'trick' question?
tenderfoot
(8,425 posts)eom
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)I made nice stuff with beads.
B2G
(9,766 posts)Hope your kids have more compassion for their classmates.
Orrex
(63,199 posts)Your objection is ridiculous.
tenderfoot
(8,425 posts)Anything to fit in.
B2G
(9,766 posts)I'll do anything to fit in with the majority, no matter how mean it is.
tenderfoot
(8,425 posts)B2G
(9,766 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,444 posts)JI7
(89,244 posts)she is a piece of shit just like her husband.
tenderfoot
(8,425 posts)jpak
(41,757 posts)SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)scarytomcat
(1,706 posts)with her sex skills she landed a big whale by getting pregnant and telling him it is his.
doc03
(35,324 posts)VermontKevin
(1,473 posts)The woman has had to stand next to Trump day after day, year after year without retching in front of the press.
Could you do that?
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)lanlady
(7,133 posts)That's all I can think of. But credit where credit is due, she looks fabulous in a dress.
Where has she been lately, btw? I don't think she's been seen in public since they were in Paris.
Hugin
(33,112 posts)rugs or something.
randr
(12,409 posts)lapucelle
(18,238 posts)Cigar11
(549 posts)... patience
... tolerance
... greed
... and best of all, Shopping Privileges