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(51,674 posts)
8. well by that logic, every country outside of africa is a nation of immigrants.
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 08:46 PM
Aug 2017

try selling that to france. or japan. or greece. or...


(51,674 posts)
9. good point! interesting question about the words migration/immigration/emigration
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 08:55 PM
Aug 2017

while they are certainly voluntary in most cases, i don't know if these words specifically exclude involuntary changes in country of residence.

sociologists say that populations change through 4 means: birth, death, immigration, and emigration. i think it's just meant to refer someone being added to one country while subtracted from another. nothing implied about how or why that happened.

but that may be too much of a jargon term usage. common usage certainly at least suggests voluntary.


(51,674 posts)
6. that feels like a slight against american indians
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 08:43 PM
Aug 2017

i suppose if you go way, way back far enough, they also came here from asia via what's now the aleutian islands, i think, but that's kinda stretching a point.


(2,577 posts)
7. Miller's ancestors arrived in 1903
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 08:45 PM
Aug 2017

Wonder how well THEY spoke English. They were escaping pogroms in Eastern Europe.

Stephen Miller is just despicable. There are no other words.


(14,308 posts)
13. Can you be an immigrant to a country
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 09:19 PM
Aug 2017

before there was a country to immigrate to?

Also, Texans became Americans when Texas joined the Union. At that point they became immigrants?

Hawaiians too? They became immigrants in 1959?

As Inino Montoya said, I don't think you're using that word correctly.


(29,105 posts)
14. I'm a descendant of (among others) immigrants, but I'm not an immigrant myself
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 09:28 PM
Aug 2017

Immigrants face a number of challenges and struggles (legal, psychological, etc.) which I'm not subject to.

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