What Scared Donald Trump Yesterday Into Rage Tweeting. RUSSIA explained.

[VermontKevin]

This is the full testimony of Bill Browder. It explains why Trump went off the rails early yesterday, desperate to change the narrative, desperate to draw eyes away. Read the whole damn thing.

And once you've read it, don't tolerate any more nonsense that the alt-right and the far left are peddling. The Russia story is real. Anyone who denies that is a corrupt enabler.

LET ME SAY IT AGAIN: Anyone who peddles Deep State nonsense at this point is a corrupt enabler. It is entirely possible to resist Trump and Putin without going hawkish:
https://newrepublic.com/article/144009/anti-war-left-attack-putin

Link to tweet

Sergei Magnitsky was murdered as my proxy. If Sergei had not been my lawyer, he would still be alive today.

That morning I made a vow to Sergei’s memory, to his family, and to myself that I would seek justice and create consequences for the people who murdered him. For the last seven and a half years, I’ve devoted my life to this cause.

Even though this case was characterized by injustice all the way through, the circumstances of Sergei’s torture and death were so extreme that I was sure some people would be prosecuted. Unlike other deaths in Russian prisons, which are largely undocumented, Sergei had written everything down. In his 358 days in detention, Sergei wrote over 400 complaints detailing his abuse. In those complaints he described who did what to him, as well as where, how, when, and why. He was able to pass his hand-written complaints to his lawyers, who dutifully filed them with the Russian authorities. Although his complaints were either ignored or rejected, copies of them were retained. As a result, we have the most well-documented case of human rights abuse coming out of Russia in the last 35 years.


When I began the campaign for justice with this evidence, I thought that the Russian authorities would have no choice but to prosecute at least some of the officials involved in Sergei Magnitsky’s torture and murder. It turns out I could not have been more wrong. Instead of prosecuting, the Russian authorities circled the wagons and exonerated everybody involved. They even went so far as to offer promotions and state honors to those most complicit in Sergei’s persecution.

https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/534864/

Remember: Adoptions Means Sanctions. THIS is why Putin hates the Magnitsky Act. It undermines his ability to protect his fellow criminals.

Mr. Putin, though powerful, depends on the support of a small circle of powerful elites, in and out of government, who both keep him in power and help him enforce his will. In exchange, Mr. Putin sees that they are taken care of. The Magnitsky Act, by sanctioning some of those elites, sent a message that Mr. Putin might not be able to uphold his end of the bargain.

It also called into question whether lower-ranked officials could trust that they would be protected from punishment for tolerating or participating in illegal acts at the behest of Mr. Putin or his allies.

And the law embarrassed Mr. Putin by showing that his influence was not strong enough to prevent the law’s passage, despite his vigorous lobbying against it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/10/world/americas/kremlin-adoptions-sanctions-russia.html

[Achilleaze]

1. Investigate. Prosecute. Punish republican treasonweasels

Defend America against russian acts of war and colluding republican betrayers.

[VermontKevin]

2. It's not just the Republicans. It's time to take a look at the enablers on the Far Left

and ask ourselves why they are tolerated:

FOR MONTHS, THE CIA, with unprecedented clarity, overtly threw its weight behind Hillary Clinton’s candidacy and sought to defeat Donald Trump. In August, former acting CIA Director Michael Morell announced his endorsement of Clinton in the New York Times and claimed that “Mr. Putin had recruited Mr. Trump as an unwitting agent of the Russian Federation.” The CIA and NSA director under George W. Bush, Gen. Michael Hayden, also endorsed Clinton and went to the Washington Post to warn, in the week before the election, that “Donald Trump really does sound a lot like Vladimir Putin,” adding that Trump is “the useful fool, some naif, manipulated by Moscow, secretly held in contempt, but whose blind support is happily accepted and exploited.”

It is not hard to understand why the CIA preferred Clinton over Trump. Clinton was critical of Obama for restraining the CIA’s proxy war in Syria and was eager to expand that war, while Trump denounced it. Clinton clearly wanted a harder line than Obama took against the CIA’s long-standing foes in Moscow, while Trump wanted improved relations and greater cooperation. In general, Clinton defended and intended to extend the decadeslong international military order on which the CIA and Pentagon’s preeminence depends, while Trump — through a still-uncertain mix of instability and extremist conviction — posed a threat to it.

Whatever one’s views are on those debates, it is the democratic framework — the presidential election, the confirmation process, congressional leaders, judicial proceedings, citizen activism and protest, civil disobedience — that should determine how they are resolved. All of those policy disputes were debated out in the open; the public heard them; and Trump won. Nobody should crave the rule of Deep State overlords.



https://theintercept.com/2017/01/11/the-deep-state-goes-to-war-with-president-elect-using-unverified-claims-as-dems-cheer/

Denial is a powerful thing. Six months on this post hasn't aged well.

[58Sunliner]

22. A Greenwald proxy? Talk about denial.

"the enablers on the Far Left"- yet it isn't what you posted about is it? It is about a supposed campaign of the "deep state" to support Hillary. Who are you trying to discredit? I already know.

[Achilleaze]

3. Bill Browder

?

How I became Putin’s No1 Enemy by Bill Browder

book review: Something rotten in Russia

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/reviews/red-notice-how-i-became-putin-s-no1-enemy-by-bill-browder-book-review-something-rotten-in-russia-10013855.html

[FailureToCommunicate]

4. Powerful. Stay safe Mr Browder.

[avebury]

5. I am almost half through Bill Browder's book and it is

a really interesting read. I definitely recommend it.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

6. how sweet it would be if

all this exposure via media & Mueller leads not only to Trump's fall but the fall of Putin as well, as his backers turn on him for the fallout of his overreach... Two demons with one stone...

[The Blue Flower]

13. My contention as well

I believe it could happen.

[mdbl]

17. do we need Repuglicans with a couple of balls for this to happen?

I haven't seen any.

[Ligyron]

19. It may well be it takes a couple of years for this.

Until Dems get back into power. With the current GOP never but I sometimes wish mods and progressives would enter their party somehow, someway. Right now they more resemble the Nazi Party than Lincoln's home.

[mdbl]

39. very true

I watched the republican party turn into a bunch of paid off looney tunes. Most aren't right in the head.

[ancianita]

25. Agreed! It wouldn't be the first time the Big Arm of the FBI hurt other governments. Read about

the Pizza Connection back in the 70's.

There might be a little shakeup in Russia, but unlike Italian governing then, Russia's structure of corruption today is baked in, since it's a full-on anarcho-capitalist, mafia regime, and way bigger than the democratic Italy and Sicily were at that time.

I'd love to see other governments join us in pursuing laundering criminals.

[Amaryllis]

34. How are Dems gonna get back into power with Russia having so much ability to manipulate our

elections and the Rs and the WH having no desire to change that?

[ancianita]

37. It will take time. And your question really deserves its own thread.

There are ways. But simple questions are the hardest to answer. I can think of a thousand things...

Dems are fairly okay at cleaning up the fuckups of the Republicans, which is why the Republicans have continued to tear up the playroom for so long. But they can't delude themselves about bipartisanship any longer... they need to work their "greatest good for the greatest number" message across Channel One and IHeart Radio in this country.

Candidate vetting and funding must be at the top of their agenda. The Dems had better take more time to develop a deeper bench and monetarily support new blood at state levels. Schumer is late to that realization. Al Franken and either Castro have real possibilities for 2020.

But Congress -- whoever gets voted in in 2018 -- will have to fund more criminal investigations into business/bank launderings. The Northern and Southern Districts of New York live for that stuff.

Money absolutely HAS to be spent on restructing this government's Internet use -- regular and frequent computer upgrades, and especially changing systems away from the entire PC platform of our government -- the biggest mistake this government ever made -- and use more secure Mac platforms.

There's not one good reason not to fund a serial numbered paper ballot system across 3,144 counties in the US, and a long voting weekend that includes a holiday Monday. We shouldn't care about cost or long counting takes. We need to prove to Americans that we can run an honest election and correctly count.

Russia probes our vulnerabilities; it doesn't necessarily intend to destroy what is the best tax haven on the planet. It can still make a lot of money in the world -- and register every last damned one of its business reps as a foreign agent -- without tampering with Western governments.

By the time the FBI gets done ruining Russia's global business reputation they'll probably have to rethink their who approach to the West -- or a combined Western alliance of sanctions on them until they do.

The FBI is a formidable opponent for the FSB, and has shown itself to be much more focused on intel and stabilizing countries than is the CIA, which loves to fuck things up so mercenaries can go in and protect corporate robbers and their lithium and oil wars.

And the CIA, Congress and underfunded oversight committees know they all had better tighten up their act.


Man, I could go on all night. I know I've got no anwers, but hell, Washington doesn't, either. The Dems have learned a lot. If they can get some kind of competitive network and planning together like the Kochs have for the Repubs, they've got a shot at a comeback.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

28. one related thing i think that could happen

is when Putin sees Trump is going down, or paralyzed in office,
useless to him, in other words, they will turn on him and aid the investigation
to add to his fall

[winetourdriver01]

33. Yes I think so too

He will soon be totally useless to Vlad, and dear old Vlad will hang our Chump out to dry. Can't fucking wait.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

36. Yep.

What goes up...

[orangecrush]

7. K&R

Great read!

[Squinch]

8. Wow. That article is jaw dropping. Thanks for posting.

[VermontKevin]

9. This is what Trump doesn't want us to see.

This is the story he is hiding.

[Squinch]

16. Yes. And somewhere in all Trump(R)'s hidden financial sewage, there is clear proof he profited

heavily from the crimes of the Russian oligarchs.

[The Blue Flower]

10. The article's an important part of the Russia story

Many thanks for posting it.

[PdxSean]

11. What US politicians took money?

I'd pay good money to see a list of the US politicians who took money from the lobbyists working on Russia and Putin's behalf.

[Gabi Hayes]

14. Rohrbacher?

Funding his search for life on mars?

Did you see the clip of him appearing loaded on the house floor?

[Ragrum]

15. Oligarchs probably bought influence through Dark Money funded PACs

I know I saw that my senator Burr accepted money from a PAC associated with McConnell.
I'd say that McConnell probably tainted every GOP senator.

[femmedem]

12. Browder is testifying this morning at 9:00 am. nt

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[byronius]

18. Brave American.

[Lucinda]

20. KNR

[Honeycombe8]

21. Old news. These processes & efforts by Russia have all been revealed.

Unless this guy is linking Trump to it, I don't see the point. It's a rehash of old information.

[mr_lebowski]

30. Well, the information that DTJ, Jar-Jar & Manafort met Natalia is 'new info' as of a few weeks ago

And there's been a dearth of reportage (unless you dig pretty deep into progressive sources) w/regards to just how DEEPLY involved she is with getting Magnitsky repealed (a huge policy goal of Putin himself), so I'd say having an article with with Browder's Senate testimony appear in a major publication like The Atlantic ... spelling out basically EVERYTHING someone needs to know in a relatively concise, gripping, and imminently readable format ... has quite a bit of value, even if 'what he saying' ... is 'stuff he's said before'.

[Honeycombe8]

31. True, true. And they're not covering this, either. Mooch is a distraction.

Lots of distractions.

[58Sunliner]

23. Thanks. had not read it before.

Now why are allowing these POS to give testimony behind closed doors?

[L. Coyote]

24. K & R

Link to tweet

[Sneederbunk]

26. Who knows what sets off Trumpelthinskin.

[VOX]

27. Thanks for the link. K&R...

[Enoki33]

29. This statement by Bill Browder confirms it was and is all about

the money. Scary crimes committed to protect that money. Just a reminder that this is the leader and govt. trump admires so much he is setting up his own brand of oligarchs around him.

[red dog 1]

32. "Anyone who peddles Deep State nonsense at this point is a corrupt enabler"?

Which definition of "Deep State" are you talking about?
Where do you think the term deep state came from?

According to Amazon.com, former Republican Congressional aide, "Mike Lofgren was the first to use the term 'Deep State' in an essay & exclusive interview on Moyers & Company."

Amazon.com is wrong!
Mike Lofgren was NOT "the first to use the term "Deep State"


The term deep state or derin devlet in Turkish, originated in 1950s Turkey, refers to a secretive network of influential members of government agencies or the military that operates outside the democratic system.
The term deep state has almost been as unknown as terms like 'false flag' ..which is another term that is now going viral, and is being used by the mainstream media as if everybody knows what it means.
The term deep state refers to very politically powerful people who essentially operate off the radar and behind the scenes, generally ignoring, flouting, and breaking the law as they do so.
Peter Dale Scott, professor from the University of California, is probably the researcher who has done the most to popularize the term deep state.
And he came to this whole concept out of his analysis of President John F. Kennedy's assassination.
And he's certainly no "alt-right enabler"...neither is he "far left"

(From Feb. 17, 2015)
"Peter Dale Scott and David Talbot on the U.S. Deep State"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/11359773

(From earlier this month, July 15, 2017)
"Donald J. Trump and the Deep State"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016189261


You posted this at the top of this thread:
"Don't tolerate any more nonsense that the alt-right and the far left are peddling.
The Russia story is real. Anyone who denies that is a corrupt enabler."

Of course "the Russia story is real"
The vast majority of us here on DU know that "The Russia story is real"
And I don't think that there are very many DUers who are "alt-right" either.
I think you should do some more research on the history of the term "Deep State" before you label everyone who believes that it does exist "a corrupt enabler."

Just because the alt-right has now decided to use "Deep State" for their own purposes doesn't mean that a "Deep State" doesn't really exist.

From "American Thinker" i day ago:
"Blog: Deep State Confirms: It's all about 'We the government"

From Breitbart: 3 days ago:
"Caddell: Deep State Is Willing To Risk U.S. National Security To Damage Trump"

From WaPo 1 day ago:
"These are paid killers" Newt Gingrich provides a window into Trump's deep-state paranoia"


Former GOP congressional aide Mike Lofgren probably IS an "alt-right enabler"
Newt Gingrich probably IS an "alt-right enabler"
Breitbart definitely is an "alt-right" website...Look at Steve Bannon!

You're lumping "alt-right" in with "far left"
Who the hell do you consider to be "far left"?
Do you consider so-called "liberals" like Nancy Pelosi to be "far left"
Is Bernie Sanders "far left"?
How about Elizabeth Warren - is she "far left" as well?

If you can't see the difference between a progressive, well-respected researcher like Professor Peter Dale Scott and an alt-right enabler like Mike Lofgren, then YOU are the "corrupt enabler"

The Deep State is REAL!
But it has absolutely NOTHING At ALL to do with the fact that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians; so don't be calling all those who believe in a Deep State "corrupt enablers"

Remember the Iran-Contra scandal?
Remember Col. Oliver North?
Remember General Richard V. Secord?
Remember National Security Advisor Robert McFarlane?
Remember Caspar Weinberger, Reagan's Secretary of Defense?
Remember Assistant Secretary of State Elliot Abrams?
The list goes on!
These are just a few members of the "Secret Team" who were indicted.
"Secret Team"..."Hidden Government"...Do those terms sound at all familiar?
Hint: "Deep State"

[oasis]

35. Shout it from the rooftops.

[VermontKevin]

38. Thank you!