Mon Jul 24, 2017, 07:33 PM

nikibatts (2,198 posts)

Shame on the Boy Scouts of America and their leaders to boo Hillary Clinton, how indecent.

Phoning all my family to stop the financial support for them and asking them to send letters to the leadership.
Evil wins when good people do nothing!

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Shame on the Boy Scouts of America and their leaders to boo Hillary Clinton, how indecent. (Original post)	nikibatts	Jul 2017	OP
Embarrassed for the Scout Organization.	Sneederbunk	Jul 2017	#1
+1	uponit7771	Jul 2017	#3
Scouts have forgotten their oaths.	Teacheral	Jul 2017	#57
My husband is an Eagle too ('74) and...	WePurrsevere	Jul 2017	#80
it is called dRumpfhruher	AllaN01Bear	Jul 2017	#108
Shit, and the stupid ass'd president we have prolly said something to get the boos	uponit7771	Jul 2017	#2
"I beat Hillary, she's got cooties ... sad"	bigbrother05	Jul 2017	#109
Completely disgusting.	Eliot Rosewater	Jul 2017	#4
Holy Shit...when you can't count on Boy Souts for decency.... n/t	MLAA	Jul 2017	#5
"Courteous." It's right there in the Scout Law.	Beartracks	Jul 2017	#55
So WRONG!	Chasstev365	Jul 2017	#6
They are working on their "grow up to be an ignorant ass" merit badges. n/t	rzemanfl	Jul 2017	#7
Thanks for making me smile! I needed that!	skylucy	Jul 2017	#94
Apparently we are supposed to move on and get over it because unfavorable polls or something	ismnotwasm	Jul 2017	#8
I have been seething since I heard about Schumer	Control-Z	Jul 2017	#20
That pretty much sums it up for me too	LoveMyCali	Jul 2017	#34
+ a gazillion	Wiseman32218	Jul 2017	#40
It does nothing for Democrats. It's a dumb thing to imply	ismnotwasm	Jul 2017	#42
DURec	leftstreet	Jul 2017	#9
Oh well ....	LenaBaby61	Jul 2017	#10
They will never get a dime out of me	workinclasszero	Jul 2017	#119
What happened. Did Trump comment about Hillary which lead to booing?????	riversedge	Jul 2017	#11
Fucker set them up to boo, it was more than likely staged.	dixiegrrrrl	Jul 2017	#72
Very likely doing the same thing he did when he addressed the CIA in January.	TrollBuster9090	Jul 2017	#81
Disgusting and shame on them for this act...	Docreed2003	Jul 2017	#12
Amen to that brother...	Kleveland	Jul 2017	#43
Blessings on you, Kleveland	cilla4progress	Jul 2017	#61
Agreed...	Docreed2003	Jul 2017	#65
They have not been kind and courteous to Gays . Not surprised by this newest action	lunasun	Jul 2017	#59
Very true	Docreed2003	Jul 2017	#64
The president insulted Barack Obama, a former Boy Scout, and the crowd cheered.	riversedge	Jul 2017	#13
So they just deleted "Friendly, Courteous, Kind"	Doc_Technical	Jul 2017	#14
Boy Scouts have always been a rightwing organization.	geek tragedy	Jul 2017	#15
Even so, appearing at a political event* is a violation of their policies.	FSogol	Jul 2017	#21
The latest in a long series of institutions permanently degraded by Dolt 45.	geek tragedy	Jul 2017	#22
Agreed. n/t	FSogol	Jul 2017	#23
Except this wasn't a political event	FakeNoose	Jul 2017	#104
When Trump made it political, the leadership had a duty to step in.	procon	Jul 2017	#129
Yes I completely agree with you	FakeNoose	Jul 2017	#130
I agree,	iamateacher	Jul 2017	#145
Seriously inappropriate. No honor in that sort of behavior.	Justice	Jul 2017	#16
I haven't seen it yet, but booing our SoS and POTUS is disgusting.	panader0	Jul 2017	#17
Email address is [email protected]ng.org	Awsi Dooger	Jul 2017	#85
I did too. I'm thoroughly disgusted.	Pacifist Patriot	Jul 2017	#106
Maybe the "boy" in boy scouts is getting the best of them.	BigmanPigman	Jul 2017	#18
Lots of red state goobers go to the Jamboree. This comes as no surprise unfortunately.	The_Casual_Observer	Jul 2017	#19
Mormons are withdrawing from Boy Scouts	Kali	Jul 2017	#31
Wow I was unaware of this. The Mormons sort of ran their own independent program anyway, only a	The_Casual_Observer	Jul 2017	#35
I don't know if there is anything official	Kali	Jul 2017	#38
No	d_r	Jul 2017	#39
somethign like that	Kali	Jul 2017	#68
This is beyond disgusting.	gademocrat7	Jul 2017	#24
WTF! She's a civilian, she should sue for defamation	onlyadream	Jul 2017	#25
WTF. nt	Maven	Jul 2017	#26
They forgot to chant "Build the Wall!"	dalton99a	Jul 2017	#27
Trump Youth	pdxflyboy	Jul 2017	#28
Twitler Youth	leftstreet	Jul 2017	#33
My thought as well..... beyond scarey. n/t	Kleveland	Jul 2017	#44
Did they sing this afterward?	tblue37	Jul 2017	#75
Well, so much for "mentally awake and morally stright"...	JHB	Jul 2017	#29
Never did like that organization	SHRED	Jul 2017	#30
That's really disappointing.	yardwork	Jul 2017	#32
I am cutting them off	Achilleaze	Jul 2017	#36
Check all your charitable donations from now on.	Paladin	Jul 2017	#37
Another fascist move right out of the Hitler playbook...	flibbitygiblets	Jul 2017	#41
What happened	bpj62	Jul 2017	#45
At the National Jamboree, apparently.	Beartracks	Jul 2017	#69
Can you imagine TrumpleThinSkin visiting the GIRL SCOUTS?	DinahMoeHum	Jul 2017	#46
My kids were Cub and Boy Scouts.	hunter	Jul 2017	#47
Fuck them all.	BigDemVoter	Jul 2017	#48
They had better apologize	malaise	Jul 2017	#49
Now watch the Girl Scouts do something smart and amazing	mainer	Jul 2017	#50
What a bizarre day this is	Not Ruth	Jul 2017	#51
Twitler youth.	paleotn	Jul 2017	#52
This is exactly the same shit that hitler did. This is history repeating itself. We have a racist,	still_one	Jul 2017	#53
A Scout is Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpful, Friendly, Kind...	Beartracks	Jul 2017	#54
They banned gay scouts and leaders from membership for decades.	Act_of_Reparation	Jul 2017	#56
But that didn't stop some of the leaders from abusing young boys.	nikibatts	Jul 2017	#149
I always new Girl scouts were BETTER!!	yuiyoshida	Jul 2017	#58
Keep it classy Donnie	Raine	Jul 2017	#60
I guess a change of uniforms is in order.....	paleotn	Jul 2017	#62
Twitler Youth	Foamfollower	Jul 2017	#122
What are they the new Hitler Youth? nt	doc03	Jul 2017	#63
Fuck the BS. Homophobic stupid assholes.	we can do it	Jul 2017	#66
Give your donations to the Girl Scouts instead ...Accepting Affirming and Enpowering !	lunasun	Jul 2017	#67
Email I just sent to the Boy Scouts organization	A Brand New World	Jul 2017	#70
That really crossed a line today. They went too far.	Initech	Jul 2017	#71
You know who sympathises with the Boy Scouts? Russia.	Beartracks	Jul 2017	#73
At a long ago Boy's State week, we were bused to a Nixon event--	JohnnyLib2	Jul 2017	#74
I graduated from a being proud and loyal Cub Scout to my initiation into the boy scouts 55 years ago	Jack-o-Lantern	Jul 2017	#76
Disgusting!!! n/t	RKP5637	Jul 2017	#77
This is awful...I am angry beyond words....k and r..	Stuart G	Jul 2017	#78
I guess I am done with overpriced popcorn.	33taw	Jul 2017	#79
I agree...The BSA has made a major error that will result in injuring fundrasing, and	Stuart G	Jul 2017	#82
This is horrible. My kids rely on popcorn sales to get to camp	AllyCat	Jul 2017	#139
You may want to consider a different camp for your kids.	33taw	Jul 2017	#144
Enough with the hate on the boy scouts	hueymahl	Jul 2017	#83
Kids know what booing means. Boy Scouts know what civic involvement is.	WhiskeyGrinder	Jul 2017	#84
I agree with some of what you said	hueymahl	Jul 2017	#86
I hear you.	WhiskeyGrinder	Jul 2017	#89
Thank you posting this	YDogg	Jul 2017	#98
If that's the case, wonder how many staffers Drumpf brought with him to cheer and boo on cue.	haele	Jul 2017	#124
I agree and disagree.	Pacifist Patriot	Jul 2017	#110
Bwaha! 18-year-olds are fighting in the Middle East in our Armed Forces!	WinkyDink	Jul 2017	#115
Yes, and that is a shame	hueymahl	Jul 2017	#116
I just wrote on another thread that I texted the national headquarters that I won't be	a kennedy	Jul 2017	#87
As a former Boy Scout	neeksgeek	Jul 2017	#88
FUCK the BSA. They still openly discriminate against atheists and gays, so fuck them.	stopbush	Jul 2017	#90
BULLSHIT, Sorry stopbush but Ive got to disagree big time...........	Old Vet	Jul 2017	#113
BTW, I was at the 1969 jamboree at the age of 16 where.......	Old Vet	Jul 2017	#114
It was. nt	raccoon	Jul 2017	#140
The BSA's OFFICIAL position is to not accept atheists into their ranks.	stopbush	Jul 2017	#125
They don't push any religion on you... as long as you swear fealty to God.	Hassin Bin Sober	Jul 2017	#126
And swear fealty to imaginary red and blue lines on a map as well...	LanternWaste	Jul 2017	#133
For me personally I dont remember ANY position like that..............	Old Vet	Jul 2017	#128
Here ya go:	stopbush	Jul 2017	#134
It's true, whether you agree with it or not	Lordquinton	Jul 2017	#146
This one is not.	AllyCat	Jul 2017	#141
Disgusting	BigDemVoter	Jul 2017	#91
One of the charities that my employer supports is the BSA	Horse with no Name	Jul 2017	#92
Baden-Powell will be vomiting in his grave - n/t	Myrddin	Jul 2017	#93
As a former Scout...	rlegro	Jul 2017	#95
So, they cheered at attacks on Hillary and Barack?	blue-wave	Jul 2017	#96
Someone asked (Nicole Wallace?) asked if he was trying to create the Trump Youth. Frightening...	Hekate	Jul 2017	#97
I think Hillary Clinton should start a PR campaign designed to improve her image.	UCmeNdc	Jul 2017	#99
If the national leadership of BSA	Progressive dog	Jul 2017	#100
A racist, misogynistic, narcissistic pathological liar is a GREAT role model	PA Democrat	Jul 2017	#101
merit badge	Locrian	Jul 2017	#102
The new Hitler Youth.	alarimer	Jul 2017	#103
Politicizing the Boy Scouts is just so repulsive	bucolic_frolic	Jul 2017	#105
I know. Just another reason to hate Trump (not that I needed another).	hueymahl	Jul 2017	#120
I've always had mixed feelings about the boy scouts, but this clinches it.	Nitram	Jul 2017	#107
Trumps makes any occassion about himself.	riversedge	Jul 2017	#111
I am so disgusted	Butterflylady	Jul 2017	#112
Here is the transcript of yesterday's speech before the scouts --	Akamai	Jul 2017	#117
Here's my email to the BSA president, Kevin Dowling:	NastyRiffraff	Jul 2017	#118
Your anger should be directed at that orange pile of dung, not BSA	hueymahl	Jul 2017	#121
Then they have a decision to make!	atreides1	Jul 2017	#127
Who was that goon in the suit behind Trump nodding and smiling at everything he said?	SunSeeker	Jul 2017	#123
Ryan Zinke	VigilantG	Jul 2017	#131
The Secretary of Interior? Why the fuck did Trump need a political cheerleader?	SunSeeker	Jul 2017	#135
There were several	VigilantG	Jul 2017	#150
Sickening.	SunSeeker	Jul 2017	#152
Yes it is	VigilantG	Jul 2017	#153
Is booing "courteous"?	Lifelong Protester	Jul 2017	#132
this is how it starts	quitnesset	Jul 2017	#136
isn't this the same organization that does not let gays be scout leaders? are any of us	niyad	Jul 2017	#137
My family has been involved in Scouting for four years	AllyCat	Jul 2017	#138
while the BSA were hearing of dons crowd size...the GSA were...	samnsara	Jul 2017	#142
They should invite Clinton next year, after all she won the popular vote.	L. Coyote	Jul 2017	#143
What did he say about Hillary?	Lordquinton	Jul 2017	#147
I just called the BSA foundation	MontanaMama	Jul 2017	#148
Would have been a delight to see the Scout Leader-who was on stage do a Sen John McCain at	riversedge	Jul 2017	#151

Response to nikibatts (Original post)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 07:36 PM

Sneederbunk (10,805 posts)

1. Embarrassed for the Scout Organization.

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 07:36 PM

uponit7771 (85,184 posts)

3. +1

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 09:15 PM

Teacheral (33 posts)

57. Scouts have forgotten their oaths.

I am an Eagle Scout, from 1950. What has happened to Scouting? This behavior would not be tolerated in my day. Unfortunately it's a different day.

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Response to Teacheral (Reply #57)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 10:14 PM

WePurrsevere (24,259 posts)

80. My husband is an Eagle too ('74) and...

he was flabbergasted. Unfortunately the BSA has moved quite a bit to the right in the years since you and he were scouts.

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Response to Teacheral (Reply #57)

Tue Jul 25, 2017, 09:02 AM

AllaN01Bear (8,826 posts)

108. it is called dRumpfhruher

it is ok for america to be rude again. not.

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Response to nikibatts (Original post)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 07:36 PM

uponit7771 (85,184 posts)

2. Shit, and the stupid ass'd president we have prolly said something to get the boos

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 25, 2017, 09:07 AM

bigbrother05 (5,995 posts)

109. "I beat Hillary, she's got cooties ... sad"

Don knows how to work a crowd

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Response to nikibatts (Original post)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 07:37 PM

Eliot Rosewater (28,309 posts)

4. Completely disgusting.

But, we are finally seeing who the GOP really is, BYA, etc.

Not patriots.

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Response to nikibatts (Original post)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 07:37 PM

MLAA (11,143 posts)

5. Holy Shit...when you can't count on Boy Souts for decency.... n/t

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Response to MLAA (Reply #5)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 09:13 PM

Beartracks (11,555 posts)

55. "Courteous." It's right there in the Scout Law.

You can see it in print... but you SHOULD see it in action.

Sad day for the BSA.

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Response to nikibatts (Original post)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 07:38 PM

Chasstev365 (5,191 posts)

6. So WRONG!

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Response to nikibatts (Original post)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 07:39 PM

rzemanfl (28,939 posts)

7. They are working on their "grow up to be an ignorant ass" merit badges. n/t

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Response to rzemanfl (Reply #7)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 11:45 PM

skylucy (3,418 posts)

94. Thanks for making me smile! I needed that!

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Response to nikibatts (Original post)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 07:40 PM

ismnotwasm (40,638 posts)

8. Apparently we are supposed to move on and get over it because unfavorable polls or something

Just roll over-let Hillary take hit after hit, and scold her on the sly every fucking chance given.

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Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #8)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 07:56 PM

Control-Z (15,639 posts)

20. I have been seething since I heard about Schumer

this morning. (Though I did look up what he actually said. Still, if it wasn't an actual slight, it was a very sloppy statement on his part.) I'm so tired of Hillary being used as the national punching bag. It makes me so damn sad and angry. There should be an army of Democrats standing up for her but noone is. I feel like crying.

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Response to Control-Z (Reply #20)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 08:29 PM

LoveMyCali (1,945 posts)

34. That pretty much sums it up for me too

My admiration for this woman and the shit she puts up with on a near daily basis just keeps growing.

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Response to LoveMyCali (Reply #34)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 08:35 PM

Wiseman32218 (291 posts)

40. + a gazillion

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Response to Control-Z (Reply #20)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 08:46 PM

ismnotwasm (40,638 posts)

42. It does nothing for Democrats. It's a dumb thing to imply

It was sloppy. And for all "messaging" people-it be far from a profitable Democratic "message"

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Response to nikibatts (Original post)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 07:40 PM

leftstreet (34,529 posts)

9. DURec

It's just unbelievable

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Response to nikibatts (Original post)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 07:41 PM

LenaBaby61 (5,546 posts)

10. Oh well ....

I guess the Boy Scouts have cast their lot with tRumputin.

Good luck with donations in the future ya'll

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Response to LenaBaby61 (Reply #10)

Tue Jul 25, 2017, 11:01 AM

workinclasszero (28,270 posts)

119. They will never get a dime out of me

now that they are the Twitler youth.

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Response to nikibatts (Original post)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 07:41 PM

riversedge (63,624 posts)

11. What happened. Did Trump comment about Hillary which lead to booing?????

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Response to riversedge (Reply #11)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 09:35 PM

dixiegrrrrl (59,952 posts)

72. Fucker set them up to boo, it was more than likely staged.

One thing about Trump..he knows tv and how to use it, probably better than anyone else except Reagan.
So he used this opportunity, instead of talking about them, to talk about politics and bad mouth Hilalry, yet again.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #72)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 10:18 PM

TrollBuster9090 (5,817 posts)

81. Very likely doing the same thing he did when he addressed the CIA in January.

Position a dozen of his staffers in the crowd to 'start' the applause and cheers during the applause lines. If they did that here, it's disappointing that the Scouts would follow the applause cue, but not hard to understand. They're just kids following along. Although, you'd think that simpering asshole scoutmaster who was up on stage with them would know better than to play along.

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Response to nikibatts (Original post)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 07:44 PM

Docreed2003 (13,985 posts)

12. Disgusting and shame on them for this act...

This act runs counter to everything the BSA is supposed to represent. Have "friendly, courteous, and kind" been dropped from the Scout Law???

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Response to Docreed2003 (Reply #12)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 08:49 PM

Kleveland (1,257 posts)

43. Amen to that brother...

I have always bragged about my time in the scouts, and what a positive influence on my life that it was.

They were some of the best times in my life.

It makes me want to puke....

Is our society really de-evolving this severely?

I am emotionally distraught, and possibly scarred...

Is there no good thing in this country that they will not smear their shit all over?

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Response to Kleveland (Reply #43)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 09:19 PM

cilla4progress (19,338 posts)

61. Blessings on you, Kleveland

you sound like you are in pain. Positive vibes across the interwebs to you.

Maybe take a time out from national politics? It helped me today.

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Response to Kleveland (Reply #43)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 09:23 PM

Docreed2003 (13,985 posts)

65. Agreed...

My closest friends to this day were guys that I was in scouts with, a couple I've known since we were kids in cub scouts. My son is old enough to start cub scouts this fall, and this has me rethinking joining the group.

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Response to Docreed2003 (Reply #12)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 09:18 PM

lunasun (21,646 posts)

59. They have not been kind and courteous to Gays . Not surprised by this newest action

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Response to lunasun (Reply #59)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 09:21 PM

Docreed2003 (13,985 posts)

64. Very true

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Response to nikibatts (Original post)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 07:45 PM

riversedge (63,624 posts)

13. The president insulted Barack Obama, a former Boy Scout, and the crowd cheered.

I need to see this on video.

Tony Posnanski‏Verified account @tonyposnanski

The president insulted Barack Obama, a former Boy Scout, and the crowd cheered.

Link to tweet

Welcome to 2017.
6:26 PM - 24 Jul 2017

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Response to nikibatts (Original post)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 07:46 PM

Doc_Technical (3,176 posts)

14. So they just deleted "Friendly, Courteous, Kind"

from their motto?

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Response to nikibatts (Original post)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 07:47 PM

geek tragedy (68,868 posts)

15. Boy Scouts have always been a rightwing organization.

Now they've gone full Tr*mper. Fuck that entire organization.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #15)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 07:57 PM

FSogol (42,645 posts)

21. Even so, appearing at a political event* is a violation of their policies.

* The exceptions are they can do the flag ceremony at political events, but cannot appear in rallies or fundraisers.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #21)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 07:58 PM

geek tragedy (68,868 posts)

22. The latest in a long series of institutions permanently degraded by Dolt 45.

ETTD.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #22)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 08:00 PM

FSogol (42,645 posts)

23. Agreed. n/t

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Response to FSogol (Reply #21)

Tue Jul 25, 2017, 08:55 AM

FakeNoose (23,713 posts)

104. Except this wasn't a political event

It was the Boy Scout Jamboree which is a friendly get-together every 4 years in a different place each time.
These kids were used shamelessly by Cheeto who turned it into an opportunity for more press coverage for him.
Unfortunately these boys had no idea what was being done to them, but the adults knew.
Should have NEVER happened.

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #104)

Tue Jul 25, 2017, 12:36 PM

procon (15,805 posts)

129. When Trump made it political, the leadership had a duty to step in.

They failed to do that, and instead chose to let that honorless man exploit the children they were supposed to be safeguarding. They made an oath and had one job, and it didn't require any feat of daring do or heroism to turn off Trump's mic and quietly remind him that he was speaking to children, not a campaign rally.

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Response to procon (Reply #129)

Tue Jul 25, 2017, 12:39 PM

FakeNoose (23,713 posts)

130. Yes I completely agree with you

This was spineless of the BSA organization.

Parents are calling and emailing the BSA headquarters to complain about it too.
There will be hell to pay on this one.

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Response to procon (Reply #129)

Tue Jul 25, 2017, 04:00 PM

iamateacher (1,014 posts)

145. I agree,

The leaders should have stepped in. A relative is a BS leader, and he told me if he had been there he would have gotten arrested for protesting the incident. What an example for these young men!

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Response to nikibatts (Original post)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 07:48 PM

Justice (6,870 posts)

16. Seriously inappropriate. No honor in that sort of behavior.

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Response to nikibatts (Original post)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 07:49 PM

panader0 (24,075 posts)

17. I haven't seen it yet, but booing our SoS and POTUS is disgusting.

The BSA will suffer from this.
Contact info: https://www.bsafoundation.org/about-us/foundation-contacts/

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Response to panader0 (Reply #17)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 10:48 PM

Awsi Dooger (14,565 posts)

85. Email address is [email protected]

I sent them a condemning note. I'm very good at that.

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Response to Awsi Dooger (Reply #85)

Tue Jul 25, 2017, 08:59 AM

Pacifist Patriot (24,018 posts)

106. I did too. I'm thoroughly disgusted.

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Response to nikibatts (Original post)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 07:53 PM

BigmanPigman (45,927 posts)

18. Maybe the "boy" in boy scouts is getting the best of them.

I suppose they're following in their fathers' shoes (if their fathers are GOP fathers that is). Fux News would applaud them. Weren't the boy scouts finally getting out from their recent negative problems regarding pedophilia. That organization had better get their act together. Can you imagine the public outcry if the girl scouts booed the Donald and called him a pussy grabber and a poor loser.

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Response to nikibatts (Original post)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 07:55 PM

The_Casual_Observer (26,667 posts)

19. Lots of red state goobers go to the Jamboree. This comes as no surprise unfortunately.

Scouting is the youth program of the Mormon Church and is really big in Texas also.

I'm amazed that they have changed the rules recently. Robert Gates bears some credit for the positive changes in the program.

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Response to The_Casual_Observer (Reply #19)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 08:26 PM

Kali (53,119 posts)

31. Mormons are withdrawing from Boy Scouts

(shocking right?) and focusing on one of their in-house youth programs. Because there are no gay Latter Day Saints, right?

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Response to Kali (Reply #31)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 08:29 PM

The_Casual_Observer (26,667 posts)

35. Wow I was unaware of this. The Mormons sort of ran their own independent program anyway, only a

financial loss, no loss to the program.

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Response to The_Casual_Observer (Reply #35)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 08:33 PM

Kali (53,119 posts)

38. I don't know if there is anything official

I heard it from someone "connected." it fit with my experience around here because the local troops have been shrinking while the church members continue to multiply and build new churches and other infrastructure.

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Response to Kali (Reply #31)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 08:33 PM

d_r (6,626 posts)

39. No

The LDS approach to scouting is different, they move from Boy Scout to venturer or varsity scout at 14. LDS is dropping the after 14. Boy Scout is still the LDS youth program through age 14.

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Response to d_r (Reply #39)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 09:26 PM

Kali (53,119 posts)

68. somethign like that

I am not all that familiar with the structure of Boy Scouts.

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Response to nikibatts (Original post)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 08:04 PM

gademocrat7 (9,220 posts)

24. This is beyond disgusting.

Chump has no sense of decency. What a petty evil man.

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Response to nikibatts (Original post)

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 08:04 PM

onlyadream (2,099 posts)

25. WTF! She's a civilian, she should sue for defamation

The freaking election is over, when the hell is he going to move on! What a freaking baby.

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 08:06 PM

Maven (10,533 posts)

26. WTF. nt

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 08:10 PM

dalton99a (68,337 posts)

27. They forgot to chant "Build the Wall!"

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 08:11 PM

pdxflyboy (551 posts)

28. Trump Youth

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 08:27 PM

leftstreet (34,529 posts)

33. Twitler Youth

Seeing that a lot on Twitter right now

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 08:50 PM

Kleveland (1,257 posts)

44. My thought as well..... beyond scarey. n/t

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 09:48 PM

tblue37 (52,993 posts)

75. Did they sing this afterward?

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 08:14 PM

JHB (35,056 posts)

29. Well, so much for "mentally awake and morally stright"...

I note for the record that Trump is a resounding failure in every point of the Boy Scout Law:

Boy Scout Law

A Scout is:

Trustworthy,
Loyal,
Helpful,
Friendly,
Courteous,
Kind,
Obedient,
Cheerful,
Thrifty,
Brave,
Clean,
and Reverent.

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 08:20 PM

SHRED (28,136 posts)

30. Never did like that organization

Now I hate them.

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 08:27 PM

yardwork (54,291 posts)

32. That's really disappointing.

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 08:29 PM

Achilleaze (15,460 posts)

36. I am cutting them off

I used to be proud of my scouting background, but I won't stand for this slow shit. Deplorable. I'm packing up my metals tomorrow, and sending them back to national headquarters

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 08:33 PM

Paladin (25,181 posts)

37. Check all your charitable donations from now on.

Make sure the scouts never get another penny from you, since their devolution to Hitler Youth seems about complete. And discourage any young family members from joining up.

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 08:38 PM

flibbitygiblets (7,220 posts)

41. Another fascist move right out of the Hitler playbook...

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 08:50 PM

bpj62 (754 posts)

45. What happened

My boys are both in Scouting and the adult leadership never talks about politics to the boys. Where did this happen?

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 09:26 PM

Beartracks (11,555 posts)

69. At the National Jamboree, apparently.

http://nypost.com/2017/07/24/trump-takes-jab-at-obama-in-speech-to-boy-scouts/

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 08:51 PM

DinahMoeHum (20,649 posts)

46. Can you imagine TrumpleThinSkin visiting the GIRL SCOUTS?

Forget it, he doesn't have the balls to talk with them in person.

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 08:52 PM

hunter (35,297 posts)

47. My kids were Cub and Boy Scouts.

It was always a very uneasy truce between the Mormon and Catholic Scouts.

Then Proposition Hate happened, and the right intolerant wing of both religious parties decided they were allies.

Totally radicalized my kids, nephews, and nieces. They had wonderful queer adult family in their lives. They refused that shit.

My youngest would pluck Prop H8 signs off people's lawns and bang on their doors to tell them their signs were offensive. Those sad people would close the door on him and he'd take their signs, throwing them in back of my little pickup truck. I did recycle the wire and plastic of the signs landing in my truck, and confess it was near hundred. (I'd taken a few signs myself, including a big 4X8 plywood sign, but not so in-your-face aggressively. Maybe I was as bad, but not anywhere so courageous.)

Worst I did was write a harsh letter to the Bishop. He wrote a mushy letter back claiming he was trying to "control" the dialogue.

Better than my mom who once got into a scratching slapping girl fight with a Bishop... scars of my own childhood... My biggest fear on my own Big Catholic Wedding night was that my mom or her mom would go Berserker. They did not. Worst that happened was my sister-in-law, before the wedding, asked if she could play the church organ and she played Queen as my gay brother in law and mom were decorating the church with flowers. The sister in charge asked "That's pretty, what is it?"

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 08:54 PM

BigDemVoter (3,935 posts)

48. Fuck them all.

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 08:59 PM

malaise (244,514 posts)

49. They had better apologize

This was offensive

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 08:59 PM

mainer (11,574 posts)

50. Now watch the Girl Scouts do something smart and amazing

They'll show the boys the right way to do it.

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 09:08 PM

Not Ruth (3,613 posts)

51. What a bizarre day this is

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 09:08 PM

paleotn (13,251 posts)

52. Twitler youth.

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 09:09 PM

still_one (83,663 posts)

53. This is exactly the same shit that hitler did. This is history repeating itself. We have a racist,

sexist, bigot in the WH

Here is a link from the Hill on this story:

https://origin-nyi.thehill.com/homenews/administration/343552-trump-cuts-loose-in-front-of-massive-crowd-at-boy-scouts-jamboree

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 09:12 PM

Beartracks (11,555 posts)

54. A Scout is Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpful, Friendly, Kind...

... Obedient, Cheerful, Thrifty, Brave, Clean, and Reverent.

Oh, wait -- Did I leave on out?

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 09:15 PM

Act_of_Reparation (8,574 posts)

56. They banned gay scouts and leaders from membership for decades.

Atheists and agnostics are still prohibited. I'm an Eagle Scout and cannot participate in Scouting functions because for the grievous offense of not believing in a god, I am considered an inappropriate role model.

But when a cadre of disorganized red state rabble boos political celebrity... that's crossing the line.

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 08:29 PM

nikibatts (2,198 posts)

149. But that didn't stop some of the leaders from abusing young boys.

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 09:15 PM

yuiyoshida (37,836 posts)

58. I always new Girl scouts were BETTER!!

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 09:18 PM

Raine (27,973 posts)

60. Keep it classy Donnie

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 09:20 PM

paleotn (13,251 posts)

62. I guess a change of uniforms is in order.....

tRump Scouts

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 11:18 AM

Foamfollower (1,097 posts)

122. Twitler Youth

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 09:20 PM

doc03 (30,622 posts)

63. What are they the new Hitler Youth? nt

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 09:24 PM

we can do it (10,367 posts)

66. Fuck the BS. Homophobic stupid assholes.

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 09:24 PM

lunasun (21,646 posts)

67. Give your donations to the Girl Scouts instead ...Accepting Affirming and Enpowering !

If you are like me and don't want the crappy cookies, you can buy a box or two and they will take them and donate to military personnel . Double donation IMO

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 09:30 PM

A Brand New World (1,096 posts)

70. Email I just sent to the Boy Scouts organization

Boy Scout Law

A Scout is:

Trustworthy,
Loyal,
Helpful,
Friendly,
Courteous,
Kind,
Obedient,
Cheerful,
Thrifty,
Brave,
Clean,
and Reverent.

Read the above Boy Scout Law & tell me how the spectacle that occurred this evening was allowed to happen. Booing a former President, booing a former Secretary of State and former First Lady - how does that fit into the Boy Scout Law? My husband is a former Cub and Boy Scout, my son is a former Cub Scout, Boy Scout and Eagle Scout, my grandsons are currently Cub Scouts and I served as a Cub Scout Den Leader. Never in my imagination could I envision the Boy Scout organization condoning such disrespect to our country’s leaders. I have regularly donated to the Boy Scouts but no more. You will never see another penny from me and I will be talking with my son about my grandsons being a part of Boy Scouting.

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 09:35 PM

Initech (91,720 posts)

71. That really crossed a line today. They went too far.

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 09:38 PM

Beartracks (11,555 posts)

73. You know who sympathises with the Boy Scouts? Russia.

Even back in 2013...

https://russianreport.wordpress.com/2013/02/04/the-boy-scouts-of-america-should-move-to-russia/

"Apparently out of step in a country that has embraced political correctness and intent on lunging ineptly into socialism, the Boy Scouts and the USA are clearly at odds."

"This is a country where the president wrestles with lions and shoots big game in the forest. He doesn’t need to fabricate stories about shooting skeet."

(I hope that's not a "bad" link. I'm not familiar with the site. But it sure is hard to tell the author apart from any number of Republican talking heads in THIS country.)

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 09:43 PM

JohnnyLib2 (11,167 posts)

74. At a long ago Boy's State week, we were bused to a Nixon event--

as an Honor Guard. There was minor grumbling (among we Kennedy supporters) but being courteous was strictly enforced.
Today's episode is disgusting, a true downgrading--and ever so reminiscent of Hitler's Youth.

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 09:59 PM

Jack-o-Lantern (748 posts)

76. I graduated from a being proud and loyal Cub Scout to my initiation into the boy scouts 55 years ago

The very first day I was made fun of, taunted, and made to feel unwelcomed.
My first day was my last day.
I now see them as a bunch of organized young hoodlums under the guise of “God & Country” and all that other crap they profess.
They are nothing more than a youthful gang of homophobic little big shots who sicken me.
Fuck them and their Trumpism.

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 10:03 PM

RKP5637 (62,986 posts)

77. Disgusting!!! n/t

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 10:08 PM

Stuart G (33,796 posts)

78. This is awful...I am angry beyond words....k and r..

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 10:13 PM

33taw (2,062 posts)

79. I guess I am done with overpriced popcorn.

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 10:29 PM

Stuart G (33,796 posts)

82. I agree...The BSA has made a major error that will result in injuring fundrasing, and

that is in every form and everywhere in the USA. The BSA has NEVER gone into national politics...
Too stupid beyond words...sickening....

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 02:43 PM

AllyCat (13,052 posts)

139. This is horrible. My kids rely on popcorn sales to get to camp

They did not ask for the orange menace to get installed in the WH. I don't blame people for not wanting to support Scouting after this.

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 03:24 PM

33taw (2,062 posts)

144. You may want to consider a different camp for your kids.

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 10:31 PM

hueymahl (2,046 posts)

83. Enough with the hate on the boy scouts

Direct your anger at Trump. The kids are aged 11 to 18 and likely have no idea about politics. And here you have the president of the united states taking advantage of their natural respect for the leader of our country, egging them on and using his speaking skills honed over many years.

There are justified reasons to have issues with BSA. And maybe it was a mistake to invite him to speak. But it is a long-standing tradition to invite the president to speak, and the vast majority of presidents have accepted, including Obama (he attended via live video).

A lot of you are taking it out on the kids. Remember, virtually everyone on this board is hyper political. These kids have no clue.

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 10:42 PM

WhiskeyGrinder (16,471 posts)

84. Kids know what booing means. Boy Scouts know what civic involvement is.

The majority of them know better, or at least should know better. If they don't, the BSA needs to examine its curriculum.

I understand getting caught up in the moment. The Jamboree is an amazing event. Unfortunately, bad things happen when impressionable people in uniform forget themselves at a large event and go along with what a leader is doing.

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 10:49 PM

hueymahl (2,046 posts)

86. I agree with some of what you said

Kids are impressionable. This was the president of the united states (as much as it pains me to type this). There was some booing. In a way, I am impressed they were paying enough attention to even know when to boo. But I would be shocked if more than 1% of them had any context to be able to understand what they were booing about and why. All they know the fucking PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES was badmouthing someone and inviting the masses to go along with his (as we know, but they don't, bat-shit crazy) rhetoric.

And yes, bad things happen when impressionable people in uniform forget themselves at a large event and go along with what a leader is doing. That is the tragedy of this. The tragedy that Donald fucking Trump exposed himself to these kids. Not that some 13 yo kids did something stupid.

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 11:02 PM

WhiskeyGrinder (16,471 posts)

89. I hear you.

I do hope a lot of leaders, parents and volunteers do some very deep and serious soul-searching in the coming days and have frank discussions with their sons.

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 05:17 AM

YDogg (6,483 posts)

98. Thank you posting this

The BSA realized what a PR nightmare this could be and appealed to the Scouts and leaders to remain civil:
"Decorum - As a unit leader or staff member, you can help make the president’s visit a success by ensuring that any reactions to the president’s address are, as we state in our Scout Law, friendly, courteous, and kind. This includes understanding that chants of certain phrases heard during the campaign (e.g. “build the wall,” “lock her up”) are considered divisive by many members of our audience, and may cause unnecessary friction between individuals and units. Please help us ensure that all Scouts can enjoy this historical address by making sure that your troop members are respectful not only of the president, but of the wide variety of viewpoints held by Scouts and Scouters in the audience tonight."

It's pathetic that the BSA would even feel compelled to say that, but nobody has any illusions about what an imbicile we have as president. More here on the pre-event notice, including the source of that quote: http://www.summitbsa.org/details-presidential-visit-monday

Trump brings everyone down.

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 11:48 AM

haele (11,031 posts)

124. If that's the case, wonder how many staffers Drumpf brought with him to cheer and boo on cue.

I do know from seeing a snippet on the news that Drumpf was flashing the White Supremacist's "WO" handsign while he was there, though I imagine by now, it's probably habit.

Microphones at televised events are misleading; if there were 10 - 20 staffers were standing by the cameras, it could seem as if the whole crowd was cheering and booing when in fact, it might have only been a few. Just enough so the Drumpf can re-watch his speech on the networks and believe he was the Superstar of the event.

Haele

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 09:11 AM

Pacifist Patriot (24,018 posts)

110. I agree and disagree.

I disagree that most of them would not understand about what and why they were booing. I currently have three boys in the age range you mention and all of them and all of their friends are remarkably politically aware. My job also requires me to keep up with generational research and Millennials and Gen-Z are way more plugged in than most people realize. My guess is that of those who booed, quite a few knew exactly what they are doing and why.

That being said, even adults get swept into crowd moods at a large event so I don't think it is fair to judge the boys by a different standard. I agree with you there.

Hands down the worst decision was to invite an admitted sexual assaulter and obvious racist to address the Jamboree, even if he is the President (pains me to type that too). I don't care if it is a tradition. The people who extended the invitation could have predicted this and broken with that tradition.

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 10:51 AM

WinkyDink (51,311 posts)

115. Bwaha! 18-year-olds are fighting in the Middle East in our Armed Forces!

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 10:52 AM

hueymahl (2,046 posts)

116. Yes, and that is a shame

18 YOs are no longer active scouts. The vast majority of the KIDS (and they are kids) attending the jamboree are 16 or younger.

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 10:58 PM

a kennedy (25,076 posts)

87. I just wrote on another thread that I texted the national headquarters that I won't be

donating ANY financial contributions to the BS and will tell my family not to contribute as well. What a horrible, horrible thing to do. The BSOA should apologize to Barack for this buffoon's lack of class.

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 10:58 PM

neeksgeek (1,212 posts)

88. As a former Boy Scout

I emailed them to complain. The adult leaders of my troop would have chastised us if we booed a former president or a presidential candidate. Or anyone, really. We would have been told it was against the Scout Law.

If the BSA doesn't denounce this, they might as well get it over with and rename themselves Trump Youth.

As an adult I'm not an enormous fan of the Boy Scouts, but this is really too much.

A Scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean, and reverent... Trump is none of these!

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 11:11 PM

stopbush (24,065 posts)

90. FUCK the BSA. They still openly discriminate against atheists and gays, so fuck them.

Every scout family I've ever known are RW/Xian assholes.

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 10:37 AM

Old Vet (2,001 posts)

113. BULLSHIT, Sorry stopbush but Ive got to disagree big time...........

Maybe where your from they discriminate but I was a cub scout then boy scout. And religion was not pushed on anyone, I came from a family where after a lot of discussions It was MY decision to go to church or not. I reached the rank of life in boy scouts, One step from eagle, And never did I get any shit for not being religious. It just wasn't a big deal at all, Ive kept many friendships from boy scouts, I tend to think the boys at the jamboree where just going along with the adults clapping.

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 10:47 AM

Old Vet (2,001 posts)

114. BTW, I was at the 1969 jamboree at the age of 16 where.......

Neil Armstrong said hello from space to the scouts, Little did I know that in a short year and a half I would be in the military. Seems like a thousand years ago..........................

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 02:44 PM

raccoon (30,141 posts)

140. It was. nt

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 11:55 AM

stopbush (24,065 posts)

125. The BSA's OFFICIAL position is to not accept atheists into their ranks.

Is that not true?

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 12:03 PM

Hassin Bin Sober (25,010 posts)

126. They don't push any religion on you... as long as you swear fealty to God.

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 12:55 PM

LanternWaste (37,748 posts)

133. And swear fealty to imaginary red and blue lines on a map as well...

And swear fealty to imaginary red and blue lines on a map as well... but our bias tends to justify that bit of imagination as somehow more real than other bit of imagination, hence our implicit acceptance of it.

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 12:26 PM

Old Vet (2,001 posts)

128. For me personally I dont remember ANY position like that..............

We were caught up in to many other issues, So NO Mr stopbush, I found it not to be true even though our meetings were at a very hardcore local country church. Never even met the pastor there to the best of my memory. And my family and myself were most definitely atheists, Before we were even aware of a name for being completely neutral either way in religion.

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 01:07 PM

stopbush (24,065 posts)

134. Here ya go:

Clause 1. The Boy Scouts of America maintains that no member can grow into the best kind of citizen without recognizing an obligation to God. In the first part of the Scout Oath the member declares, “On my honor I will do my best to do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law.” The recognition of God as the ruling and leading power in the universe and the grateful acknowledgment of His favors and blessings are necessary to the best type of citizenship and are wholesome precepts in the educa- tion of the growing members. No matter what the religious faith of the members may be, this fundamental need of good citizenship should be kept before them. The Boy Scouts of America, therefore, recognizes the religious element in the training of the member, but it is absolutely nonsectarian in its attitude toward that religious training. Its policy is that the home and the organization or group with which the member is connected shall give definite attention to religious life.

Clause 4. Only persons willing to subscribe to these declarations of principles shall be entitled to certificates of leadership in carrying out the Scouting program.

Source: Charter and Bylaws of the BSA, Article X: Policies, Dec 2015

BTW - the BSA went to court in 2000 to defend their right to discriminate against atheists, gays and whoever else they may wish to discriminate against. The court found that as a private organization, the BSA could discriminate against anyone they pleased. They have continued to discriminate.

End of story.

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 04:13 PM

Lordquinton (7,882 posts)

146. It's true, whether you agree with it or not

They only recently relaxed their discrimination against gay and trans scouts. They still discriminate against atheist scouts.

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 02:56 PM

AllyCat (13,052 posts)

141. This one is not.

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 11:12 PM

BigDemVoter (3,935 posts)

91. Disgusting

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 11:16 PM

Horse with no Name (33,872 posts)

92. One of the charities that my employer supports is the BSA

Albeit a large organization, I am planning on requesting that they suspend all financial support because of this.
I actually believe they will.

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Mon Jul 24, 2017, 11:29 PM

Myrddin (317 posts)

93. Baden-Powell will be vomiting in his grave - n/t

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 12:05 AM

rlegro (276 posts)

95. As a former Scout...

I long ago disowned the BSA, after it made one embarrassing social policy decision after another. Even after it tried to right itself, the organization listed on, with the ballast of poor choices past. And here we go again.

Where is the BSA's own loyalty to its own principles, loyalty not to one imperious emperor-in-waiting, but to our democracy and to the once-unassailable values of fair play and justice for all. Shame on any BSA leader local or national or doesn't denounce this sorry display from Trump on down through the organization's "leadership" ranks.

What are we teaching these young boys? To be crass and cynical when they grow up, that's what.

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 12:43 AM

blue-wave (3,149 posts)

96. So, they cheered at attacks on Hillary and Barack?

I thought at one time they were attempting to raise well balanced young men. Not any more. They are a vile hate mongering group in my book.

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 02:56 AM

Hekate (76,307 posts)

97. Someone asked (Nicole Wallace?) asked if he was trying to create the Trump Youth. Frightening...

Absolutely frightening.

A lot of the men in my family grew up in the BSA, and were leaders. My sister's husband kept his Unitarian-affiliated group going all through the gay ban, flew a rainbow flag at the Jamboree in defiance of the bigots, was told to remove it, but stayed with the Scouts until it was finally over.

Well, that's over. Turning the BSA into the fucking Hitler Jugend -- no.

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 05:56 AM

UCmeNdc (9,124 posts)

99. I think Hillary Clinton should start a PR campaign designed to improve her image.

A PR campaign to nullify Trump's vicious attacks to her Reputation.

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 08:43 AM

Progressive dog (6,307 posts)

100. If the national leadership of BSA

has any decency, they should immediately issue a statement about the inappropriateness of that spectacle.

Policy on Scout Participation in Political Events

The National Boy Scouts of Americas' policy on participation in political events is:

Uniformed unit members or leaders may participate in flag ceremonies at political events and may lead Pledge of Allegiance; however, they should retire after the ceremony and NOT remain on the speakers' platform or in a conspicuous location where television viewers could construe their presence as an endorsement or symbol of support.

In addition, photos of candidates or Scouts in uniform or BSA marks and logos are NOT allowed in political materials of any kind.

The Boy Scouts of America does not endorse any political candidate. Care must be taken to not make implications that we do.

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 08:46 AM

PA Democrat (13,171 posts)

101. A racist, misogynistic, narcissistic pathological liar is a GREAT role model

for young men and boys.

I read some of the "highlights" of Trump's speech and I will never buy another can of popcorn or any other fundraiser from the Boy Scouts. Trump's speech was a vile DISGRACE. Shame on the Boy Scouts.

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 08:47 AM

Locrian (4,413 posts)

102. merit badge

someone needs to photoshop a trump merit badge out of this....

The orange cheeto badge of bullying and temper tantrums...

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 08:48 AM

alarimer (16,245 posts)

103. The new Hitler Youth.

Fuck the Boy Scouts, that bigoted organization.

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 08:55 AM

bucolic_frolic (31,786 posts)

105. Politicizing the Boy Scouts is just so repulsive

Kids need heroes and values to look up to and believe in

Trust, loyalty, Scout's honor, service to fellow beings

Dragging raw politics into scouting is just crude

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 11:10 AM

hueymahl (2,046 posts)

120. I know. Just another reason to hate Trump (not that I needed another).

I feel bad for the BSA leadership. They are in a no-win situation and got fucked by one of the nastiest politicians on the planet. To politicize a boy scout speech? Simply disgusting.

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 09:00 AM

Nitram (18,106 posts)

107. I've always had mixed feelings about the boy scouts, but this clinches it.

They don't even have good manners anymore.

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 09:12 AM

riversedge (63,624 posts)

111. Trumps makes any occassion about himself.

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 09:45 AM

Butterflylady (2,606 posts)

112. I am so disgusted

that they stood there and let spew that filth that I cannot find words to describe what I'm feeling. What happens to this country will lay at the feet of all republicans.

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 10:56 AM

Akamai (1,779 posts)

117. Here is the transcript of yesterday's speech before the scouts --

Here is the transcript of yesterday's speech before the BSA Jamboree:

http://time.com/4872118/trump-boy-scout-jamboree-speech-transcript/

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 11:00 AM

NastyRiffraff (12,448 posts)

118. Here's my email to the BSA president, Kevin Dowling:

Mr.Dowling:

I imagine you are getting a ton of emails regarding the horrible speech Donald Trump gave at what was supposed to be a regular BSA event. Instead, Trump turned it into a rally for himself, with all the ugliness that implies. I understand there were 12 year old boys in that audience, who listened to the "president" of the United States tell them about a yacht party with the "hottest people in New York and hinting about things he could not tell them because of their youth. How SICK is that? He also encouraged them to boo Barak Obama, bragged about his obsession: crowd size, and very likely bored the kids to tears by bragging about his electoral college win and how great "his" economy is.

Boy Scouts of America needs to issue a statement condemning Trump's rants in the strongest possible terms. It has to be more than merely "distancing" from Trump's remarks.

It's also a teachable moment for the boys: if someone tells you to do something wrong, no matter how powerful, rich, etc. that person may be, do the honorable thing and resist.

Thank you. I look forward to the organization's statement.

Mr. Dowling's email: [email protected]

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 11:16 AM

hueymahl (2,046 posts)

121. Your anger should be directed at that orange pile of dung, not BSA

He took disgusting unimaginable advantage of the situation. The POTUS is the ceremonial head of the BSA. For 80 years, BSA has invited its ceremonial leader to speak. For 80 years those speeches have been non-political and focused on morality and the principals outlined by the scouts.

The fact that he spoke about partying on a yacht and alluded to an orgy in front of teens and pre-teens shocks even me, and I am one of the most jaded mother fuckers around.

I feel bad for BSA leadership. To not invite this POTUS would have been an overtly political act by a non-political organization. If they condemn the speech, they are again making a political statement. If they don't, assholes like us condemn them for not doing it. It is a no-win situation.

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 12:20 PM

atreides1 (15,600 posts)

127. Then they have a decision to make!

Either let this stand, and show their cowardice...or condemn this speech and show courage!

By their silence they condone everything he said, regardless of whether they do or not, and the scouts who were present will come away with the belief that the BSA leadership were in agreement with what the President said!

12 and 13 year olds are impressionable, and they will follow their leaders for the most part...more so if their parents happen to be Trump supporters!

The BSA leadership, need to lead...anything less is just going along to get along!!!

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 11:33 AM

SunSeeker (46,730 posts)

123. Who was that goon in the suit behind Trump nodding and smiling at everything he said?

I can only assume he was a BSA exec. He basically gave the crowd permission to boo.

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 12:42 PM

VigilantG (374 posts)

131. Ryan Zinke

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 01:08 PM

SunSeeker (46,730 posts)

135. The Secretary of Interior? Why the fuck did Trump need a political cheerleader?

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Wed Jul 26, 2017, 06:47 PM

VigilantG (374 posts)

150. There were several

Rick Perry and Tom Price were there on stage too--all Eagle Scouts!
Jeff Sessions and Rex Tillerson were also Scouts but not in attendance. Tillerson was there last Friday for a ceremony for his service to the Boy Scouts of America. They dedicated a statue to him.

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Wed Jul 26, 2017, 09:04 PM

SunSeeker (46,730 posts)

152. Sickening.

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Wed Jul 26, 2017, 11:02 PM

VigilantG (374 posts)

153. Yes it is

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 12:47 PM

Lifelong Protester (8,420 posts)

132. Is booing "courteous"?

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 01:09 PM

quitnesset (43 posts)

136. this is how it starts

This was not unplanned; tRump is beginning to use organizations such as the Armed Forces and the Boy Scouts to get youth on board with the new fascism. It will come slowly at first, and then more and more frequently until it becomes "normal." His supporters will love it, and others will just try to ignore it until it is way too late and well past the time anything can be done about it. If people want to send a message immediately, they should stop contributing to the BSA, and encourage their sons to do something more worthwhile with their time. (posted by a former almost-Eagle Scout who remembers what a great organization it once was.)

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 01:15 PM

niyad (87,001 posts)

137. isn't this the same organization that does not let gays be scout leaders? are any of us

truly surprised?

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 02:27 PM

AllyCat (13,052 posts)

138. My family has been involved in Scouting for four years

Two leaders, a cub, and a Boy Scout. We are considering pulling out of Scouting after yesterday. Kid at camp right now. Am so embarrassed after youth booing Obama and Clinton. POTUS is supposed to talk about the values of Scouting and how they align with American and human values. Yesterday was awful.

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 03:02 PM

samnsara (15,934 posts)

142. while the BSA were hearing of dons crowd size...the GSA were...

...learning coding and robotics....just saying.

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 03:10 PM

L. Coyote (51,127 posts)

143. They should invite Clinton next year, after all she won the popular vote.

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 04:15 PM

Lordquinton (7,882 posts)

147. What did he say about Hillary?

I must have missed it.

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Tue Jul 25, 2017, 04:37 PM

MontanaMama (19,295 posts)

148. I just called the BSA foundation

and did not get an actual person so I left a voicemail stating that as a business owner and private citizen I have supported the BSA for decades and unless and until I hear a public statement from the BSA admonishing the president for his statements and apologizing for their lack of appropriate response, they have received my last donation dollar. I also left my cell phone number if they'd like to hear it in person. Shame on them.

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Wed Jul 26, 2017, 06:54 PM

riversedge (63,624 posts)

151. Would have been a delight to see the Scout Leader-who was on stage do a Sen John McCain at

that point. Whatever you say about McCain, it was a very decent thing for him to tell that women No mam-Obama is a decent family man (paraphase).

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