Let's just stipulate that Trump will be implicated in money laundering. Duh.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

Although some, like Rachel say you "can not indict a sitting president" is iffy, it stands.

There will be a big ball of shit hanging over Trump's head, Let's assume post-presidency he will have to face??

Our only remedy, will be impeachment and removal, right?

He will never do any kind of honorable thing and resign, like Nixon did.

[pnwmom]

1. There are NY State laws he might have violated in connection with money-laundering --

laws that could allow NY to seize his assets in the state.

And he can't pardon offenses of state laws.

So this could get interesting.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

4. Yes, it could ! I just wonder what it would take to actually turn the GOP to the

point they vote to impeach. Surely, surely, surely. no partisan would stick by their guy/girl with a pending felony??

[pnwmom]

9. I used to think they'd drop him like a hot potato. But now I'm wondering how many of the leaders

are complicit -- and at risk from charges themselves.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

18. Or - they are just waiting it out. They know the executive branch is in turmoil and that their

leader is a lunatic. BUT, they finally got total power. They have their agenda. They moved their families into a house in DC. Their constituents love them. All that, against doing the right thing and standing up. And, what is winning, at the moment, is the plan to stay low, say nothing, wait it out. If he is removed, a Republican will take over. If he is not, they haven't spoke up and offended him.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. Trump would resign if he can figure out a way to make himself look good.

Nixon didn't resign for the good of the country or because it was the honorable thing to do; he resigned because he knew the impeachment process would be even more humiliating. He didn't want an impeachment trial in the Senate where his manifold sins and wickednesses would be debated and picked apart for months, and that would most likely result in a conviction and his actual ordered removal from the office of the presidency and the White House.

Trump won't want that kind of humiliation either.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

7. Brilliant summary of Nixon - but - why are you so sure that Trump would

do the same? He has already been humiliated to the nth degree - and he brushed it off, accused others, minimized everything.

You actually see him as changing? That he would feel something? That he would realize that he had displayed dishonorable behavior?

I for one, think he is much too mentally incapable of that human behavior.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

8. Yes, but Trump will do whatever HE THINKS

is most beneficial to him and his vast ego. I do think he's capable of manufacturing a scenario in his head which, however absurd it might seem to the rest of the world, allows him to resign in glory rather than shame. It is absolutely true that he has no sense of personal shame, but he is very aware of public opinion and of what he thinks "his people" think of him. If he has to go through an impeachment trial he runs the risk of losing the approval of at least some of his base (Nixon lost some, but not all, of his much larger base).

[Laura PourMeADrink]

11. I don't know VO..... to me Nixon was a straight line. Delusions that he could get

away with anything ---->crime -----> exposure------>cover-up---->realization that he was screwed--->awareness ---->self preservation ----> cutting his losses ---->resignation.

I can not see Trump following that path - he just seems so much more schizo than Nixon was.

[PJMcK]

3. Nixon wasn't honorable (n/t)

[Laura PourMeADrink]

14. You are so right PJMcK - I should not have used that term.

[D_Master81]

5. Nixon

Nixon only resigned after he was told from prominent Republicans that he no longer had the support in Congress to avoid impeachment. If and when that were to happen, Trump would resign as well. I dont ever see the day where a Pres is actually removed from office through the impeachment process.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

15. I am leaning the other direction. I think Trump's delusions of grandeur would make him think

he could survive an impeachment.

[pnwmom]

19. Yes,I can imagine that, too.

[C_U_L8R]

6. Given the GOP's track record on repeal and replacing

Confidence isn't very high that they'll do the right thing and give Trump the stage hook

[Laura PourMeADrink]

16. So money laundering with a pinch of foreign collusion, wouldn't be enough?for GOP?

[C_U_L8R]

17. I'd hope

But fear they're just as complicit.

[delisen]

10. the money launderers want Trump out- too

much about their businesses on the verge of becoming public knowledge.

They do not want the spotlight shining on them.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

12. Agree, that's why I stipulate he will be embroiled/accused of being involved in a crime. I am

talking about the next step. Let's just say it is uncovered that he laundered. What next?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

13. Duh...just re-read your post. I see what you are saying and it's very interesting angle. ! nt