Sat Jul 15, 2017, 12:35 AM

flotsam (3,268 posts)

Do you believe that Robert Mueller is both smart and a patriot?

Because if I were, then nothing gets released until I can tie every republican who I suspect of treason-even if only looking the other way into a criminal conspiracy to make sure that a caretaker president is not a Russian stooge. No way Ryan or McConnell get near the controls of the country. Orrin Hatch is an superannuated fool but at least an actual American.That is my bet about where we are heading...

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Do you believe that Robert Mueller is both smart and a patriot? (Original post)	flotsam	Jul 2017	OP
That is why this will take a long time	cpamomfromtexas	Jul 2017	#1
He will want to nail everyone, in any party, involved in this treason.	Liberty Belle	Jul 2017	#2
How do we know Hatch isn't a Russian hack as well?	pangaia	Jul 2017	#3
Yes...but part of the strategy to take them all could be to utilize a 2 phase take down.	MedusaX	Jul 2017	#4
Meuller is not some dictator. He is an investigator and prosecutor.	BzaDem	Jul 2017	#5
They were told of collusion last August.	denbot	Jul 2017	#6
Yeah, but are you claiming that knowledge of another's collusion is a crime?	BzaDem	Jul 2017	#9
from what I understand	Skittles	Jul 2017	#7
Mr Muller is the best man for the job he has been handed..	chillfactor	Jul 2017	#8
I have no doubt that Mueller is a competent investigator and prosecutor,	briv1016	Jul 2017	#10

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Sat Jul 15, 2017, 12:42 AM

cpamomfromtexas (1,208 posts)

1. That is why this will take a long time

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Sat Jul 15, 2017, 12:59 AM

Liberty Belle (9,354 posts)

2. He will want to nail everyone, in any party, involved in this treason.

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Sat Jul 15, 2017, 01:11 AM

pangaia (24,324 posts)

3. How do we know Hatch isn't a Russian hack as well?

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Sat Jul 15, 2017, 01:15 AM

MedusaX (1,129 posts)

4. Yes...but part of the strategy to take them all could be to utilize a 2 phase take down.

Phase 1 - remove the wedges that are preventing the implosion (PR, MMc, MP)

Phase 2 - watch the implosion and then sweep up all of the rubble and dispose of properly.

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Sat Jul 15, 2017, 01:51 AM

BzaDem (11,142 posts)

5. Meuller is not some dictator. He is an investigator and prosecutor.

What crimes are you saying Ryan or McConnell would conceivably be charged with?

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Sat Jul 15, 2017, 01:57 AM

denbot (9,859 posts)

6. They were told of collusion last August.

Since then they both have run cover. When a congressman stated that he thought Trump and a fellow congressman were on Putin's payroll, Speaker Ryan swore everyone there to secrecy over what was just said..

Yeah, you're right, nothing to see here.

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Sat Jul 15, 2017, 02:52 AM

BzaDem (11,142 posts)

9. Yeah, but are you claiming that knowledge of another's collusion is a crime?

It is certainly morally repugnant to be aware of such an act by the president and not take action. But I have not heard anyone claim that inaction in the face of such knowledge is a crime, let alone something Meuller could go after.

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Sat Jul 15, 2017, 02:12 AM

Skittles (148,597 posts)

7. from what I understand

I would say Mr. Mueller does have integrity.

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Sat Jul 15, 2017, 02:41 AM

chillfactor (7,141 posts)

8. Mr Muller is the best man for the job he has been handed..

let's hope and pray he is allowed to complete his investigations.

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Sat Jul 15, 2017, 03:17 AM

briv1016 (1,570 posts)

10. I have no doubt that Mueller is a competent investigator and prosecutor,

but I still don't see a scenario where anyone in the administration is prosecuted. Donald can only be impeached by Congress, which will never happen. And he can simply pardon everyone else.

I just don't understand why people appear to be waiting with bated breath for Mueller to announce his finding. Assuming they aren't just classified ahead of time.

And let's not forget that Donald could order Rosenstein to fire Mueller in his next tweet.

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