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MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 08:20 AM Jul 2017

Claude Taylor CNN and treason tweet storms

Reminder. I view things posted on twitter as raw intelligence until confirmed by the msm. Having said that... Claude has been a reliable source.

Tweet storm #1

I have a series of quotes from Senior CNN Executives candidly describing their Network, relationship with WH and what they know..follows



Senior CNN Executive: "We have seen and have copies of transcripts of calls between Kushner, Bannon and high level Russian officials". 1/2


"At the least, those two committed treason, and it's hard to believe Trump wasn't part of it". 2/2




Tweet storm #2

Senior CNN Executive: "We used to get hate mail. Now we get death threats. Hundreds a day."


Senior CNN: "We get 30 calls a day from Senior White House officials screaming at us for publishing stories that are irrefutably accurate.


Senior CNN Executive "The fake news campaign has been remarkably effective. 1/3 of America had been brainwashed, and nothing will change 1/2


their minds". End CNN tweet series







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Claude Taylor CNN and treason tweet storms (Original Post) MelissaB Jul 2017 OP
thanks for the post. KewlKat Jul 2017 #1
Fingers crossed the doj will have enough hard evidence that Ryan et al conceed to a quick, quiet lindysalsagal Jul 2017 #2
I've been predicting that for some time. kag Jul 2017 #22
I'm hoping enough evidence convinces McCONnell to resign. He's complicit. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #38
Absolutely. But he'll probably make a deal: He's a coward and a scoundrel. lindysalsagal Jul 2017 #42
My dream is that Jared finks on the Con & the Con finks on the entire GOP leadership. CrispyQ Jul 2017 #50
daily harassment of the media from the white house and trumpians spanone Jul 2017 #3
Agree, lock their trifling, despicable, disgusting, deplorable un-Amercian asses up. iluvtennis Jul 2017 #31
What next? CharleyDog Jul 2017 #74
that's nothing compared with what 1000 radio stations are spewing certainot Jul 2017 #75
THIS get the red out Jul 2017 #104
Love the new malaise Jul 2017 #83
thanks! spanone Jul 2017 #84
I hope he is correct NewJeffCT Jul 2017 #4
Yes PDittie Jul 2017 #5
With everything that you know about the Trump Regime and his base... Shell_Seas Jul 2017 #7
It saddens me Scarsdale Jul 2017 #105
I agree. If there is no other more reliable source AJT Jul 2017 #23
Claude Taylor is having a big Tweet fight with the Resistance, specifically puppymnkey and Jamail Not Ruth Jul 2017 #76
Do you have the low-down on Louise? Baitball Blogger Jul 2017 #6
No, I don't NewJeffCT Jul 2017 #9
Did CNN publish these transcripts they have jmg257 Jul 2017 #8
Why has the story not broken? Chasstev365 Jul 2017 #10
Really? CNN has transcripts? DefenseLawyer Jul 2017 #11
I wondered too if there is a reason they cannot release those flamingdem Jul 2017 #13
It was rumored a couple of weeks ago that Washington post has a big story SweetieD Jul 2017 #15
Because 45 is framing everything as fake. forgotmylogin Jul 2017 #36
Sources & allies need to be protected. Agencies may be arranging other sources that can be revealed Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #37
So how does leaking to the Twitter guy fit that narrative? n/t DefenseLawyer Jul 2017 #40
The source is not given so it is not revealed so it is protected. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #43
Also, saying 'we have transcripts of conversations' doesn't constitute a 'leak' ... mr_lebowski Jul 2017 #55
It is called catfishing Not Ruth Jul 2017 #78
No it isn't. Catfishing is posing as someone you are not. L. Coyote Jul 2017 #95
Agreed. This is mighty complicated stuff. Not exactly instant oatmeal. lindysalsagal Jul 2017 #44
Why is it so hard to believe? We know that important stories were "sat on" for months, pnwmom Jul 2017 #49
This MelissaB Jul 2017 #54
It is very easy to believe, especially since trump is attacking CNN. L. Coyote Jul 2017 #97
It's been reported that Mueller has asked CNN and WAPO to sit on info for now. brush Jul 2017 #107
And you think they'd honor such a request? onenote Jul 2017 #112
Naive, or just aware of what's going on? It's a different time. Surely you've heard the same reports brush Jul 2017 #113
What reports would those be? And from what sources? onenote Jul 2017 #114
Just let it play. It's certainly not unusual for media to heed requests from law enforcement. brush Jul 2017 #115
Seems believable enough flamingdem Jul 2017 #12
Tired of hearing how Claude is often right. He is often wrong. And a lot of his SweetieD Jul 2017 #14
Hey it's 'raw intelligence' melman Jul 2017 #16
No. I think you can't post a tweet of his proven to be "totally made up bullshit". . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #45
Do re-tweets count? onenote Jul 2017 #65
I read "cannot confirm" and "may be". I comprehend those phrases. Most people don't twist them. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #67
Why say he's posting from sources but he can't confirm onenote Jul 2017 #69
Now you twist my words. Stop twisting! I do not make the concession you try to stuff in my mouth. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #70
Yes they are there for a reason melman Jul 2017 #71
I avoid binary thinking. Life is nuanced. Tough for impatient rejectionists. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #72
one of his tweets was based on Mensch onenote Jul 2017 #77
Claude Taylor reported recently that Mueller added time to the clock and that indictments would take Not Ruth Jul 2017 #80
No, I don't think so. MelissaB Jul 2017 #88
Claude Taylor Not Ruth Jul 2017 #90
I don't see that he said years. MelissaB Jul 2017 #91
How much time? Not Ruth Jul 2017 #111
Today he has said gldstwmn Jul 2017 #117
18 months from today to indictment of Trump? Not Ruth Jul 2017 #118
If they ban people that follow "stalker" accounts, that will wipe out half their followers Not Ruth Jul 2017 #119
Claude Taylor appears to be reporting The Resistance to the FBI Not Ruth Jul 2017 #120
It's happening Not Ruth Jul 2017 #121
The Resistance is doxxing Team Patriot (not linking that) Not Ruth Jul 2017 #122
You realize his tweets are online and we can check them. They are quite reliable. L. Coyote Jul 2017 #98
Fake News is a credibility destroyer, innoculation against the truth bucolic_frolic Jul 2017 #17
CNN sitting on info would explain some things. Barack_America Jul 2017 #18
You could be right. I said in another thread I wondered why Trump was going so hard SweetieD Jul 2017 #21
CNN and Zucker GOT TRUMP ELECTED sharedvalues Jul 2017 #19
DT got better coverage from ALL the MSM, with Fox, of course, being the leader. pnwmom Jul 2017 #61
Yes, not just CNN sharedvalues Jul 2017 #116
I look forward to next 24 business hours. Ellipsis Jul 2017 #20
Mr. Mueller, trials, and prisons are not "Fake News," as Trumpland will learn. WinkyDink Jul 2017 #24
Naysayers sound remarkably similar to Trump supporters. WinkyDink Jul 2017 #25
Yes, they do. MelissaB Jul 2017 #29
No melman Jul 2017 #33
He's no Huckster. Ellipsis Jul 2017 #34
Ya think???? hadEnuf Jul 2017 #26
Whatever verified info you have publish it asap BSdetect Jul 2017 #27
Not if you don't have enough separate sources. Taylor will report something based on only pnwmom Jul 2017 #100
What the hell are they waiting for? DK504 Jul 2017 #28
They might have been asked to hold off to avoid undermining the investigation. nt tblue37 Jul 2017 #35
I bet his stuff is selling very well awesomerwb1 Jul 2017 #30
Isn't this guy affiliated with Loiuse Mensche? Chimichurri Jul 2017 #39
Yep! +1 n/t PasadenaTrudy Jul 2017 #46
Ah... Malcom Nance... MelissaB Jul 2017 #47
Nance sides with The Resistance, who hate Louise Mensch and vice versa Not Ruth Jul 2017 #82
We obviously aren't reading the same twitter feeds. MelissaB Jul 2017 #85
We probably do Not Ruth Jul 2017 #87
Claude Taylor Not Ruth Jul 2017 #89
Had the same reaction on Mensch....had to unfollow her.. HipChick Jul 2017 #41
Asymmetric Not Ruth Jul 2017 #81
Interesting info on Wiki about FVEY womanofthehills Jul 2017 #103
I'm not buying any of this until people are arrested. It's political fan fiction until then. LonePirate Jul 2017 #32
That's my take on it as well. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2017 #51
It seems you think Comey's firing and Mueller's hiring is fan fiction too. And the FISA warrants. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #57
Ask yourself why CNN has not published/aired those transcripts if they have them. LonePirate Jul 2017 #66
You answered your own question when you wrote your second sentence. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #68
One word: Mueller. L. Coyote Jul 2017 #99
Until he files charges, if he ever does, then all of this is speculation. LonePirate Jul 2017 #106
So all the lies by Trump appointees and hires are not perjury, just speculations? L. Coyote Jul 2017 #108
It makes no difference what happened if no charges are filed. LonePirate Jul 2017 #110
Tsk..tsk...tsk.... The Party of Reagan. Grins Jul 2017 #48
Can we all say, 'Civil War?' PatrickforO Jul 2017 #52
I salute your spirit. I don't think it will go that far, but we need your backbone. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #60
Not even Flynn will go to jail, if these were democrats they would be in jail already. Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #53
If he did anything connected with NY banks or property he could be convicted in NY pnwmom Jul 2017 #56
I bet you also predicted there'd never be a Special Counsel appointed either. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #58
This message was self-deleted by its author Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #62
I cant speak without being banned Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #63
No I don't Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #64
Flynn and Kushy are/were Democrats AncientGeezer Jul 2017 #59
they just said that to do drugs and get laid certainot Jul 2017 #73
Thread winner! MelissaB Jul 2017 #79
3rd MSM entity has the tapes Not Ruth Jul 2017 #86
Others confirming this info. MelissaB Jul 2017 #92
Out of the three I believe tea pain is probably the most credible. I really hope this is SweetieD Jul 2017 #93
I get harassed on DU for posting Claude Taylor, and people call him a liar. L. Coyote Jul 2017 #94
Good question(s). Not just push back but angry, snarky, mean push back. SunSeeker Jul 2017 #102
my questions to Taylor brettdale Jul 2017 #96
Why are you making up details about Taylor's job? pnwmom Jul 2017 #101
His staff must have been paid minimum wage onenote Jul 2017 #109
Team Patriot is taking interns! Not Ruth Jul 2017 #123

lindysalsagal

(20,585 posts)
2. Fingers crossed the doj will have enough hard evidence that Ryan et al conceed to a quick, quiet
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 08:26 AM
Jul 2017

frump resignation w/o the entire public impeachment procedure. Is it possible the gop MIGHT catch on that impeachment will be bad for their brand?

The interesting question, though, is will Jarred squeal on fromp first to save his pretty little ass?

kag

(4,078 posts)
22. I've been predicting that for some time.
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 09:55 AM
Jul 2017

I wouldn't be surprised if Jarred has already "turned" and given Mueller lots of ammunition against Orange Fuckface.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,964 posts)
38. I'm hoping enough evidence convinces McCONnell to resign. He's complicit.
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 11:49 AM
Jul 2017

Ryan may or may not be complicit. He may have known but may not have actually done anything.

McCONnell knew and pointedly prevented Obama's feds from informing the state Electoral Commissions about the hacking and other activities.

McCONnell also knew early enough to make the extraordinary and unprecedented move to block Merrick Garland's nomination to SCotUS for a whole year.

I hope McCONnell is one of the ones convicted in court.

lindysalsagal

(20,585 posts)
42. Absolutely. But he'll probably make a deal: He's a coward and a scoundrel.
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 12:48 PM
Jul 2017

He probably owns all of the judges, already. That's where the smug grin comes from. He makes Francis Underwood appear saintly.

CrispyQ

(36,424 posts)
50. My dream is that Jared finks on the Con & the Con finks on the entire GOP leadership.
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 04:41 PM
Jul 2017

If they take down the Con & leave McConnell in place, we're still fucked. McConnell has to go. I'd like to see Ryan, Pence & some state governors go too.

spanone

(135,795 posts)
3. daily harassment of the media from the white house and trumpians
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 08:28 AM
Jul 2017

unamerican / unconstitutional

lock them up

CharleyDog

(757 posts)
74. What next?
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 07:27 PM
Jul 2017

yes, and because of the President of the United States the media is getting DEATH THREATS. Think on that. The President inciting death threats to the media 'cause he doesn't like the facts. This is the beginning of some bad shit to come...

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
75. that's nothing compared with what 1000 radio stations are spewing
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 07:28 PM
Jul 2017

that's where the real hate is generated - for instance this morning limbaugh, essentially complaining, says the only ones getting shot are republicans

cnn ought to check out how much putin's feeding/using rw radio

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
4. I hope he is correct
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 08:37 AM
Jul 2017

but, didn't he and Louise Mensch team up on the "sealed indictment" story a few months back?

PDittie

(8,322 posts)
5. Yes
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 08:40 AM
Jul 2017

Taylor is the same kind of flake as Mensch, different Kellogg's box.

I find it alarmingly sad that so many here buy into their 'conspiracy o'day'.

Shell_Seas

(3,329 posts)
7. With everything that you know about the Trump Regime and his base...
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 08:54 AM
Jul 2017

Do these accounts from CNN about death threats and the WH phone calls seem plausible? I've seen enough of their behavior, (both the Trump Regime and his followers), to believe that these things are real.

Secondly, we have had multiple reports from multiple news stations that Kushner had been meeting and not disclosing with several Russian officials, he spent a weekend on an island with them, (along with Bannon), he tried to set up a secret back channel, and so on, plus he's hired not one, but two high profile criminal defense attorneys.

And as far as Bannon goes, his goal is to completely disrupt and change the face of our democracy, I wouldn't put anything past that one.

During the Watergate scandal, everyone thought it was a whole lot to do about nothing and nothing was going to happen, until they arrested 43 people.

You know what they say, where there is smoke...

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
105. It saddens me
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 06:42 AM
Jul 2017

to see so many of the so-called leaders covering for this joke of an "administration" The gop does not care about this country. Protecting an ass like tRump, so they can screw regular citizens to give tax breaks to their wealthy donors. They all line their pockets, but someday they will wake up to the fact that money can not buy happiness. Look at the tRump entire family, especially the nude model. That woman is living a nightmare.

 

Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
76. Claude Taylor is having a big Tweet fight with the Resistance, specifically puppymnkey and Jamail
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 07:42 PM
Jul 2017

I feel like Louise Mensch is letting Claude Taylor take the lead, while she takes on puppymnkey.

Baitball Blogger

(46,684 posts)
6. Do you have the low-down on Louise?
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 08:46 AM
Jul 2017

She went from first-to-the-story to unreliable source rather quickly.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
9. No, I don't
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 08:56 AM
Jul 2017

but, she is a Tory in the UK even if she is anti Trump. So, I don't entirely trust her.

She did break a few stories either on her own, or with Taylor, but several other stories related to Trump/Russia have not panned out, either.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
8. Did CNN publish these transcripts they have
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 08:55 AM
Jul 2017

Last edited Wed Jul 5, 2017, 09:30 AM - Edit history (1)

Copies of? No "BREAKING!" headlines??

A senior exec HAS hard copies of transcripts- seems like great source.

If not why not?!?

I'd love to read them too!

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
11. Really? CNN has transcripts?
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 09:00 AM
Jul 2017

And they're sitting on them. Except for a random leak to some Twitter guy. Got it. Just waiting for "Shark Week" to get the ratings boost?

SweetieD

(1,660 posts)
15. It was rumored a couple of weeks ago that Washington post has a big story
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 09:17 AM
Jul 2017

They are sitting on. Supposedly information gained from allies (uk or Australia). Could be these transcripts too. Supposedly they were holding the story at request of certain intelligence agencies. But all that could be bs too.

forgotmylogin

(7,520 posts)
36. Because 45 is framing everything as fake.
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 11:41 AM
Jul 2017

Plus...you know what happens when stories get released prematurely. One missed comma invalidates the whole thing.

I'd suspect also, they'd rather Pmurt hear the news from the FBI first.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,964 posts)
37. Sources & allies need to be protected. Agencies may be arranging other sources that can be revealed
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 11:42 AM
Jul 2017

Whether or not Republican Trump is taking up space in the Oval Office, the Australians / British / Canadians / New Zealanders / Germans / Dutch are our allies. That relationship needs to be protected and cherished.

The source may be agents embedded in Russia.

US intell agencies / agents / others may be working to arrange other sources that can be revealed so that ally relationships can be preserved.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,964 posts)
43. The source is not given so it is not revealed so it is protected.
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 12:50 PM
Jul 2017

Intell community /Mueller may want to make the target get buggy, in Malcolm Nance's words. The target then talks to others, maybe the big fish, and reveals more info.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
55. Also, saying 'we have transcripts of conversations' doesn't constitute a 'leak' ...
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 05:07 PM
Jul 2017

CNN is going to be very careful right now about dotting their i's, etc. Even if they THINK they have 'real' transcripts, they're going to want to go WAAAAAAAY deep on the whole 'confirmation they're legit' aspect of things.

A CNN exec surreptitiously letting it be know through some rando blogger that they 'have transcripts' is actually a rather smart move in this circumstance. Gauge what the 'reaction' is ... without the entity 'CNN' ... having to stick it's fat neck out.

I won't be AT ALL surprised if they do 'have transcripts', but they're fakes ... in the Rather/Rovian-style, if you know what I mean.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
95. No it isn't. Catfishing is posing as someone you are not.
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 01:14 AM
Jul 2017

Catfishing is luring someone into a relationship using a fictional online persona.

lindysalsagal

(20,585 posts)
44. Agreed. This is mighty complicated stuff. Not exactly instant oatmeal.
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 12:51 PM
Jul 2017

Before limbs are amputated, it is responsible to have the replacement government entities caught up and ready to take over.

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
49. Why is it so hard to believe? We know that important stories were "sat on" for months,
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 03:41 PM
Jul 2017

for various reasons. The NYTimes, for example, knew about the FISA warrant for months before reporting it.

And we also know that sources sometimes leak. And that this "Twitter guy" is a former staffer of Clinton's whose posts are obviously needling DT. If the aim was to direct a little psychological warfare at the DT team, using Taylor could be a good tactic.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
97. It is very easy to believe, especially since trump is attacking CNN.
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 01:18 AM
Jul 2017

Perfect way to reveal what is really behind trump's attacks on journalism. It trump attacks Claude Taylor, it gives him more audience, exposure, and cred. Go for it Donnie, double dare you!

brush

(53,743 posts)
107. It's been reported that Mueller has asked CNN and WAPO to sit on info for now.
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 07:26 AM
Jul 2017

He must have his reasons. Let's see how it plays out.

onenote

(42,598 posts)
112. And you think they'd honor such a request?
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 12:35 PM
Jul 2017

During Watergate, the Post continued to break stories leaked to it both before and after the Special Prosecutor was appointed. If you think they would have stopped if only Archibald Cox had asked them to, you're being naïve.

brush

(53,743 posts)
113. Naive, or just aware of what's going on? It's a different time. Surely you've heard the same reports
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 02:25 PM
Jul 2017

Last edited Thu Jul 6, 2017, 02:57 PM - Edit history (1)

I have. Or are you the naive one?

onenote

(42,598 posts)
114. What reports would those be? And from what sources?
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 04:54 PM
Jul 2017

If its Mensch or Taylor suggesting that the Post and Times (and so on and so forth) that are sitting on stories at Mueller's request --well, let's just say that I'd take such a story with a truckload of salt.

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
12. Seems believable enough
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 09:00 AM
Jul 2017

Let's give them some room for exaggeration - maybe only 30 death threats a day - that's still horrifying. Plus, any kook around the world can call one in.

SweetieD

(1,660 posts)
14. Tired of hearing how Claude is often right. He is often wrong. And a lot of his
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 09:13 AM
Jul 2017

tweets are generic wishful thinking.

onenote

(42,598 posts)
65. Do re-tweets count?
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 06:12 PM
Jul 2017

Like this one from nearly two months ago, claiming that arrests were imminent (maybe "tomorrow&quot :


?lang=en

Or one from a week later again saying arrests would be made "soon" according to his sources:

?lang=en


Bernardo de La Paz

(48,964 posts)
67. I read "cannot confirm" and "may be". I comprehend those phrases. Most people don't twist them.
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 06:20 PM
Jul 2017

Those are there for a reason: to indicate his exact level of confidence in the information he is conveying.

They are easy to spot, hard to miss. But some who want to knock him down any way they can will transform "may be soon" into "would be made soon" as you did.



onenote

(42,598 posts)
69. Why say he's posting from sources but he can't confirm
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 06:26 PM
Jul 2017

And how is that different from his most recent posts.

Sure he covers his ass. He has to since his "sources" are for shit (as your post implicitly concedes).

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
71. Yes they are there for a reason
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 06:33 PM
Jul 2017

They're there to give him an out when nothing happens. Hey he didn't say it would happen, only that it may happen!

Of course if something *had* happened his followers would cite these tweets as rock solid proof of his accuracy.

Never would they mention he'd only said it 'may' happen. No, forevermore this would be it. Case closed! Taylor is legit.

That way he gets to have it both ways. And that is why they're there.

onenote

(42,598 posts)
77. one of his tweets was based on Mensch
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 07:45 PM
Jul 2017

when it was suggested he stop relying on her, he defended her on the grounds that her record is 'quite good" -- in other words, he was defending the reliability of his statements.

BTW, I forgot that he's been reporting, or repeating others reports, that arrests would be coming soon since mid April --nearly three months.

And when asked what he meant by "soon" he said "the opposite of 'not long'" -- which makes about as much sense as most of what he writes.

But defend him if you want.

 

Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
80. Claude Taylor reported recently that Mueller added time to the clock and that indictments would take
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 07:55 PM
Jul 2017

Years (I think, do not have Twitter up)

 

Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
111. How much time?
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 11:57 AM
Jul 2017



I think that you will eventually find that Mueller and TeamPatriot have been working itogether.

Not everything can be revealed immediately. You need to read into the GLOMAR.


 

Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
118. 18 months from today to indictment of Trump?
Sat Jul 8, 2017, 05:07 PM
Jul 2017

I missed that Tweet.

Was all caught up in Team Resistance/Russian Granny poisons Claude Taylor.

And the promise of a block list.










 

Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
122. The Resistance is doxxing Team Patriot (not linking that)
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 06:39 AM
Jul 2017

Team Patriot is pissed.

There is some squad tiff within Team Patriot.

Disarray creates opportunity, a hero will rise.





L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
98. You realize his tweets are online and we can check them. They are quite reliable.
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 01:19 AM
Jul 2017

You can read his feed yourself and see it too.

bucolic_frolic

(43,060 posts)
17. Fake News is a credibility destroyer, innoculation against the truth
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 09:22 AM
Jul 2017

It must not be allowed to persist lest logic, truth, facts are out the window

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
18. CNN sitting on info would explain some things.
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 09:36 AM
Jul 2017

1. Why Trump has turned his vitriol to CNN (I think we can all agree WaPo has been more damaging).

2. Why the three from CNN were so suddenly fired for release of that article, citing "sourcing" violations.

CNN may be sitting on info (maybe asked to do so by Mueller), and the WH knows it. The new WH CNN hate is an attempt to bully them into silence.

SweetieD

(1,660 posts)
21. You could be right. I said in another thread I wondered why Trump was going so hard
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 09:46 AM
Jul 2017

against CNN when MSNBC has been way harsher in their coverage. Especially Maddow and O'Donnell. Instead he goes after joe and mika and only because he has personal beef with them.

Also almost all media had the dossier for months but they never reported on it. It was only when buzzfeed got it that it became public. So I can see cnn and wash post withholding info.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
19. CNN and Zucker GOT TRUMP ELECTED
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 09:43 AM
Jul 2017

What the heck is CNN talking about now?
It's their coverage that got us in this place.

They chase ratings, televise all his "rallies" and hire his surrogates to argue on TV. They hire Lord and Levandowski.


Now CNN has regrets? Sorry, they got us to this place.



Background on how CNN's ratings quest helps the president:
NYT: "CNN has a problem (with ratings). Trump solved it." https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/04/magazine/cnn-had-a-problem-donald-trump-solved-it.html
Carlos Maza:.


?lang=en

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
61. DT got better coverage from ALL the MSM, with Fox, of course, being the leader.
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 05:52 PM
Jul 2017

It wasn't just CNN.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
116. Yes, not just CNN
Fri Jul 7, 2017, 10:58 PM
Jul 2017

But CNN is key because they're high profile and seen as non-partisan.

That's why DJT is going after them now.

Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
20. I look forward to next 24 business hours.
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 09:44 AM
Jul 2017


It strikes me he softens the blow.

...Perhaps he should paint the Torino Green.



 

melman

(7,681 posts)
33. No
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 11:11 AM
Jul 2017

Recognizing someone like Claude Taylor for the huckster he is doesn't make someone a Trump supporter.

hadEnuf

(2,177 posts)
26. Ya think????
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 10:48 AM
Jul 2017

"Senior CNN Executive "The fake news campaign has been remarkably effective. 1/3 of America had been brainwashed, and nothing will change 1/2 their minds".

It was all fun & games until the RWNJ's turned the shit cannon on you guys.



Now do your fucking jobs and help get this dictator-in-the-making out of the White House.

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
100. Not if you don't have enough separate sources. Taylor will report something based on only
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 01:27 AM
Jul 2017

one trusted source. The MSM, for good reasons, needs more. At least two and preferably three.

DK504

(3,847 posts)
28. What the hell are they waiting for?
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 11:01 AM
Jul 2017

"We have seen and have copies of transcripts of calls between Kushner, Bannon and high level Russian officials".

Do they want an invitation from the WH traitors to do their damn jobs?

awesomerwb1

(4,265 posts)
30. I bet his stuff is selling very well
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 11:06 AM
Jul 2017

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"Art break" = Here are my pictures for sale.

Nothing wrong with trying to make a living, but not by piggybacking on trumpgate like this. IMO

The weird thing is his "partnership" with Mensch. I used to go on Twitter to read her tweets religiously. After watching some of her videos on British TV, and from since she's moved here (US), she's either a very troubled person desperately seeking attention, or worse, a plant trying to divide cheeto's opposition. Or both.

Team DEZA, Asymetric, etc etc etc.

Chimichurri

(2,911 posts)
39. Isn't this guy affiliated with Loiuse Mensche?
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 12:30 PM
Jul 2017

They're opportunists. Malcolm Nance outs her all the time and I trust him not them

 

Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
82. Nance sides with The Resistance, who hate Louise Mensch and vice versa
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 08:07 PM
Jul 2017

The Resistance definitely has their Twitter Fu going on. At this point, Louise and Claude's only counter is to say please stop.

womanofthehills

(8,661 posts)
103. Interesting info on Wiki about FVEY
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 02:15 AM
Jul 2017

So, US can't spy on American citizens, but others in FVEY can and can share info - getting around US spying regulations. So is Mensch saying that Asymmetric is made up of countries sharing intel and #COSINT (Crowdsourced Research: A New and Potent Grassroots Force) doing some kind of psy warefare against Putin & Mercer that is working. ?????



The "Five Eyes" (FVEY) refer to an alliance comprising Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom and the United States. These countries are bound by the multilateral UKUSA Agreement for joint cooperation in signals intelligence, military intelligence, and human intelligence. In recent years, documents of the FVEY have shown that they are intentionally spying on one another's citizens and sharing the collected information with each other in order to circumvent restrictive domestic regulations on spying.[8]
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Say you're the NSA. By law, there are certain sorts of spying you're not lawfully allowed to do on Americans. (And agency rules constraining you too.) But wait. Allied countries have different laws and surveillance rules. If there are times when America's spy agency has an easier time spying on Brits, and times when Britain's spying agency has an easier time spying on Americans, it's easy to see where the incentives lead. Put bluntly, intelligence agencies have an incentive to make themselves complicit in foreign governments spying on their own citizens.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/06/is-the-five-eyes-alliance-conspiring-to-spy-on-you/277190/

LonePirate

(13,408 posts)
66. Ask yourself why CNN has not published/aired those transcripts if they have them.
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 06:20 PM
Jul 2017

Those are blockbuster allegations. Why is a reputable news source sitting on them? It certainly isn't because somebody asked them not to make them public. If those transcripts are sufficient for a news executive to state they are essentially evidence of treason, why have no charges been filed? Spare me the excuse about it taking time to build a case if a news executive can render a judgment seemingly weeks/months after being obtained?

Again, until charges are filed and the handcuffs emerge, this is all speculative wishful thinking.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,964 posts)
68. You answered your own question when you wrote your second sentence.
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 06:23 PM
Jul 2017

It is because, as you wrote, they are "a reputable news" organization.

They might sit on them for several very good reasons as have been enumerated in this thread and I am not going dredge the obvious up for you when you can read them yourself.

LonePirate

(13,408 posts)
106. Until he files charges, if he ever does, then all of this is speculation.
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 07:09 AM
Jul 2017

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People want to believe he has the goods on 45 except there has been no proof of that whatsoever as of yet. As I said, it's been fan fiction up to this point.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
108. So all the lies by Trump appointees and hires are not perjury, just speculations?
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 09:33 AM
Jul 2017

Seriously, nothing happened until charges are filed? I guess Flynn's resignation is just speculative then.

LonePirate

(13,408 posts)
110. It makes no difference what happened if no charges are filed.
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 10:29 AM
Jul 2017

People can infer whatever they wish and make any moral judgments accordingly. None of that matters if Mueller does not press charges for whatever reason. Without convictions, nothing is good by to change as charges alone may not be sufficient for the resignation machine to begin buzzing

PatrickforO

(14,559 posts)
52. Can we all say, 'Civil War?'
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 04:49 PM
Jul 2017

Lots of blood, and it will ALL be on the hands of the corporate-capitalist funded propaganda organs like Fox, Breitbart, Drudge and hate-talk radio.

And, you know what?

Those few of us still alive, climbing up out of the ashes, must bring the liars to justice. They got paid well for their treason to this nation, and when the time comes and this nation is broken and rebuilding, they must pay the piper.

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
56. If he did anything connected with NY banks or property he could be convicted in NY
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 05:27 PM
Jul 2017

by AG Schneiderman, and he could go to prison there. DT couldn't pardon him over a NY crime.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,964 posts)
58. I bet you also predicted there'd never be a Special Counsel appointed either.
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 05:49 PM
Jul 2017

I've frequently seen your posts on this issue that add up to "It's hopeless. Nothing gonna happen. Move along now. Nothing to see."

Such despair and defeatism is not helpful.

Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #58)

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,964 posts)
64. No I don't
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 06:07 PM
Jul 2017

That's why there is a top legal team of 13 under Mueller investigating to FIND OUT who is responsible and the details of when and where and how.

Many of us can make educated guesses about all kinds of connections like the stink from Wilbur Ross's Bank of Cyprus, money laundering at tRump casinos & real estate, and even Bannon has "lawyered up". Be we don't know the details and we don't know exactly how deep and wide it goes.

But you've already given up and cast a verdict over the whole thing.

Win? The only win I want is for all the sordid details to come out and people be punished appropriately. I'm willing to wait for a substantial portion of that to come true.

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
92. Others confirming this info.
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 10:14 PM
Jul 2017

Feel free to add your own. I don't follow that many people on twitter.

1. John Schindler

Several MSM outlets have some of the relevant intel. They're sitting on it. For their own reasons. So, we wait.










2. Tea Pain

1) Tea Pain can confirm from multiple sources that our press has damning intercepts that will expose Trump. The press outlets are...


2) working with Mueller's investigation, holding these articles so as not to compromise their active sources.



In another thread: 2 - This story has been on hold for about a week, which coincides with Fox News trottin' out their "Collusion isn't a Crime" talkin' points.



3. Louise Mensch?
Further to @TrueFactsStated report on CNN, my own sources confirm that CNN has transcripts of Kushner and Bannon; WaPo has better evidence

SweetieD

(1,660 posts)
93. Out of the three I believe tea pain is probably the most credible. I really hope this is
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 11:08 PM
Jul 2017

true. The shift in talking points to "collusion is ok" was a pretty dramatic and abrupt shift in the last couple of weeks. I definitely believe something is hanging out there. I don't want Muellers investigation to be compromised but it seems like everyone who is privy to know already knows anyway.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
94. I get harassed on DU for posting Claude Taylor, and people call him a liar.
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 01:09 AM
Jul 2017

Why do people posting here push back at the journalists breaking the #TrumpRussia story? Why are they on DU?

brettdale

(12,365 posts)
96. my questions to Taylor
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 01:17 AM
Jul 2017

"How come you were so far off about arrests happening with sealed indictments?"

"When you did office admin work for an office that was fundraising for Clinton, did you
prefer data entry or filing?"

"If you are so accurate how come Pulitzer hasnt given you a prize?

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
101. Why are you making up details about Taylor's job?
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 01:35 AM
Jul 2017

He was White House Director of Volunteers, with a small staff directing volunteers around the world.

onenote

(42,598 posts)
109. His staff must have been paid minimum wage
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 10:15 AM
Jul 2017

Since he was paid $35,000 a year in his job.

And Clinton left office in 2001. What exactly has Taylor been doing the past 16 years?

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