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HarmonyRockets

(397 posts)
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 05:16 PM Jul 2017

Bernie Sanders and the Progressive Lefts Selfless Defense of Obamacare

https://newrepublic.com/article/143685/bernie-sanders-progressive-lefts-selfless-defense-obamacare

If Republicans repeal the law, single-payer health care could become reality. And yet, unlike the conservative right, the left wing of the Democratic Party is putting the public interest over ideology.

By Brian Beutler

"Republicans have never been closer to repealing Obamacare than they are right now, but they’ve reached this precipice just as the partisan consensus that Obamacare should be repealed has begun to fray. These two phenomena are related, but distinct, and together they explain why the effort to pass Trumpcare has been so herky-jerky. The hideous unpopularity of the GOP’s proposed alternatives to the Affordable Care Act has helped to drive Obamacare’s popularity upward, which has in turn fed the view that fixing Obamacare makes more sense than repealing it and replacing it.

To cut this dynamic short, Republicans have contrived the conceit that the choice facing their party isn’t between fixing Obamacare and replacing it, but between replacing Obamacare and allowing single payer—universal, government-run insurance—to become the nation’s health care model by default.

This argument serves three useful purposes for Republicans. First, it advances the false supposition that Obamacare is collapsing; one of President Donald Trump’s most consistent claims, in public and on social media, is that Obamacare is “dead.” Second, it helps rally wavering Republicans who may not like Trumpcare, but despise federal social insurance. Third, intentionally or otherwise, it has the potential to divide the Trumpcare opposition between those on the left who would welcome the abrupt emergence of single payer and those in the center who want to do whatever’s necessary to save Obamacare.

One of the most remarkable things about the fight against Trumpcare, though, is how resistant the left has been to this kind of thinking. It is worth noting at this juncture that the GOP conceit is almost completely backward. In reality, by obliterating the middle ground between the left and right’s health care visions, the enactment of Trumpcare would shorten the way to single payer. Obamacare isn’t dead, but if Republicans kill it, single payer will suddenly become much more urgent and politically viable. After all, if Trumpcare becomes law, Democrats won’t abandon their commitment to universal health care, but they also would be foolish to try to organize the party around passing Obamacare all over again.

Thus, in a perverse way, it is in the left’s long-term political interest for a GOP health care bill to become law—and yet, the most committed single-payer advocates in the country have distinguished themselves as the most vital and effective soldiers in fight against Trumpcare. There is a great deal to learn from this interesting and selfless choice, but I want to focus on what it reveals about the much-discussed schism in Democratic politics, and about the differences between how the progressive left and the conservative right think about and approach politics in America" ...
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Bernie Sanders and the Progressive Lefts Selfless Defense of Obamacare (Original Post) HarmonyRockets Jul 2017 OP
I have seen all of our Democratic leadership murielm99 Jul 2017 #1
Kneejerk much? Nevernose Jul 2017 #7
If the ACA is repealed we standingtall Jul 2017 #2
Something to keep in mind when Truman was President his goal was universlal Kathy M Jul 2017 #5
Yeah. Just like how the election of Trump was supposed to bring about a revolution. kcr Jul 2017 #3
It's working out just like it did in 2000, when the eletion of W was going to spark lunamagica Jul 2017 #4
Here ya go Kathy M Jul 2017 #6
I agree with MineralMan on murielm99 Jul 2017 #9
I wonder if the author has to worry about health insurance. ismnotwasm Jul 2017 #8
This is how statespersons operate... Trial_By_Fire Jul 2017 #10

murielm99

(31,303 posts)
1. I have seen all of our Democratic leadership
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 05:23 PM
Jul 2017

defend Obamacare, in the House and the Senate. If the "progressive left" is just beginning to do this, they are late to the party.

standingtall

(2,870 posts)
2. If the ACA is repealed we
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 05:25 PM
Jul 2017

will not be getting single payer anytime soon. The idea that we will move to single payer as the result of the ACA being repealed is a total fantasy. Much better chance to get to single payer with the ACA being in place than if it was repealed.

The reality is the legislative filibuster is and will still be in effect when Democrats take back the Senate and it is highly unlikely we would be able to get past the 60 vote threshold we would need for single payer.

Kathy M

(1,242 posts)
5. Something to keep in mind when Truman was President his goal was universlal
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 07:29 PM
Jul 2017

healthcare which is part of reason universal healthcare was derailed

"Another historical actor entering the fray was Senator Robert Taft (R-OH), who introduced the Taft-Smith-Ball bill, which called for matching grants to states to subsidize private health insurance for the needy. Although the AMA supported this bill, Truman was against it because he believed it would halt the political progress he had made in guaranteeing every American health insurance. "

Medicare and Medicaid were finally passed when Johnson was President ......

Pretty decent article http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/november-19-1945-harry-truman-calls-national-health-insurance-program/

kcr

(15,494 posts)
3. Yeah. Just like how the election of Trump was supposed to bring about a revolution.
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 05:28 PM
Jul 2017

So, how is that working out?

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
4. It's working out just like it did in 2000, when the eletion of W was going to spark
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 05:52 PM
Jul 2017

"the revolution"

 

Trial_By_Fire

(624 posts)
10. This is how statespersons operate...
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 10:42 PM
Jul 2017

Sanders fought tooth&nail for single payer or a public option for the ACA. When
that was bought down by Democrat Joe Lieberman, he fought tooth&nail for
community health centers and other means to make the ACA better. And
succeeded.

So, of course, Sanders wants to preserve the ACA. It only makes sense. However,
if the ACA is preserved (or heaven help us, repealed), Sanders will push for the only healthcare policy
that makes sense: Medicare for All. I think we should call it the Health Security Act. And it could start with
just changing the age to 55 and over.

As always, Sanders is working to make America better for all Americans...

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