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by Ken Meyer | 6:57 pm, June 24th, 2017
WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange posted a Twitter statement on Saturday, writing that the Democratic Party will meet its death once it becomes clear that Donald Trump did not win the presidency by colluding with Russian election-meddling.
< .@WikiLeaks editor @JulianAssange on why the US Democratic party is doomed: pic.twitter.com/R4Ds630aRf
Julian Assange (@JulianAssange) June 24, 2017 >
As investigations continue into Russias actions, Assange blasted the Democrat party elite for creating a narrative of hysteria to maintain control over their remaining political power. After slamming Democrats for their strategic choices in recent years, Assange concluded that the party will be doomed once the Russia investigation determines theres no incriminating evidence on Trump:
< The Trump-Russia collusion narrative is a political dead end. Despite vast resources, enormous incentives and a year of investigation, Democratic senators who have seen the classified intelligence at CIA HQ such as Senator Feinstein (as recently as March) are forced to admit that there is no evidence of collusion. Without collusion, we are left with the Democratic establishment blaming the public for not liking the truth about what Hillary Clinton said to Goldman Sachs and blaming their own base for not liking what they said in their own emails about about fixing the DNC primaries. >
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http://www.mediaite.com/online/julian-assange-democratic-party-doomed-because-collusion-narrative-is-a-political-dead-end/
Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)Julian: nobody cares what you think and even if they did, you have zero credibility!
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)He is such an ass! Another person I wish would go away forever. I can't stand that POS!
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)greymattermom
(5,751 posts)and so their response is "so what". Wait for Mueller and start talking about what medicaid really does.
sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)#2 why would anyone believe that man?
Orrex
(63,086 posts)Eyeball_Kid
(7,410 posts)a special order, delivered to the Equadoran embassy. Chocolate cake with two scoops, perhaps?
GeorgeGist
(25,294 posts)Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)JHB
(37,132 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,440 posts)in somebody else's house.
jalan48
(13,798 posts)It's all about collusion with the Russians and not about Trump's financial irregularities while he was a private citizen. If collusion cannot be proven to involve Trump the investigation will come to an end with only minor players taking the heat. If I have this wrong I'm open to being corrected.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)Even if the investigation is productive, the people involved are not fools. And, I have no doubt that there could easily be lessons from Nixon, or even Clinton, used to protect their agenda.
We know the principle of ignorance is no excuse, however it could minimize the accusation in the eyes of the public. "It is not convincing without tapes," and without malice or intent it does not reach the high crime and misdemeanor threshold..... are narratives that could easily emerge.
Without a public outcry, this could go down as a typical presidential scandal.
I think jumping too fast may not be productive.
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)All state crimes, not federal. But that it will take a long time, maybe years.
Louise Mensch has reported that there are unsealed indictments against Trump and that the Marshal of the Supreme Court has informed Trump that he is being impeached.
Mueller is small potatoes compared to that.
jalan48
(13,798 posts)csziggy
(34,120 posts)I suspect Mueller will be looking at everything in detail.
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A look at special counsel Robert Mueller's team of lawyers
By eric tucker, associated press
WASHINGTON Jun 21, 2017, 12:06 PM ET
At the top is Robert Mueller, who spent 12 years as director of the FBI before retiring from the bureau in 2013. He left the WilmerHale law firm last month to serve as special counsel in charge of the investigation.
The group he's already assembled with experience in international organized crime and the fundamentals of criminal and national security law suggests he's prepared to dig deep in a wide-ranging and probably lengthy investigation.
ANDREW WEISSMANN: The veteran Justice Department prosecutor brings years of experience in complex financial fraud cases, corporate misconduct and organized crime.
LISA PAGE: Page is a former trial attorney in the Justice Department's organized crime and gang section.
JEANNIE RHEE: Another WilmerHale partner, Rhee focused in private practice on representing people in government investigations, including white-collar criminal probes and criminal and civil fraud matters.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/special-counsel-robert-muellers-team-lawyers-48184171
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Michael Dreeben
Dreeben, the deputy solicitor general overseeing the Department of Justice's criminal docket, is widely regarded as one of the top criminal law experts in the federal government. He will work for Mueller on the investigation part-time as he juggles the DOJ's criminal appellate cases.
Aaron Zebley
Zebley is a longtime FBI staffer who spent years in the counterterrorism division as a special agent before becoming the agencys chief of staff under Mueller's leadership.
http://www.businessinsider.com/lawyers-robert-mueller-hired-for-the-trump-russia-investigation-2017-6/#aaron-zebley-5
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One of the more recent recruits is reported to be Lisa Page, a justice department trial attorney with a substantial record of investigating Russian and former Soviet organised crime and in particular its reputed godfather, Semion Mogilevich.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/15/robert-mueller-trump-russia-investigation-team-members
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Hekate
(90,202 posts)csziggy
(34,120 posts)And the Republican Party to be scrounging around for their leftovers. I want the Trump brand to be forever corroded so badly that no one will ever want to touch it again.
I'll take some more butter, too!
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)defeated old men by a proud democratic nation that turns the frightening danger they pose into an inevitable downfall of a briefly ascendant billionaire class.
jalan48
(13,798 posts)Hekate
(90,202 posts)...legal team, and he is going to Follow the Money, Honey. Why is that? Because Putin and the Oligarchs bought Trump's whole family for cash on the barrelhead.
For someone who was born and raised during the Cold War, this has been a bit hard to wrap my head around. Betrayal of country in those days was about ideology on the whole. Oh of course there were some who were blackmailed and some who did it for money, but the ideological lines were clear.
When people say that "Trump is not ideological" it eventually becomes clear that he has no allegiance to our country. His allegiance is to himself, his money, his ego, and his family. Money and the notoriety it can buy are what drives him.
In the 21st Century it is all so simple for Vladimir Putin. Oh sure the old KGB man keeps his hand in with kompromat files and losers like Greenwald, Assange, and Snowden, who think they are doing the world a favor. But with Trump and people like him? It's only money and the money flows like water, with Putin controlling the tap.
Trump sold out our democracy for nothing more than money. Don't kid yourself -- following the money will lead straight to the treason.
And I wish we still hanged traitors.
jalan48
(13,798 posts)financial irregularities. Making the investigation solely about collusion smells of a cover-up to me.
Hekate
(90,202 posts)jalan48
(13,798 posts)2018 should be the year we take back the House and Senate.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)top-drawer attorneys to close down the investigation he'd just opened into the financial side. Lots of the "leaks" this month were people telling others they'd been interviewed or subpoenaed by the JD.
These investigations have been likened to unraveling a sweater, start pulling at Kushner, for instance, and keep pulling, seeing where each new revelation leads. And I'm guessing also like occasionally grabbing a very, very big knife and slashing it apart.
jalan48
(13,798 posts)MineralMan
(146,192 posts)Screw him!
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)If Jules hates it it must be good.
annabanana
(52,791 posts)Takket
(21,425 posts)struggle4progress
(118,041 posts)Isn't he the guy who went looking for a child -prostitution ring in the basement of a pizza parlor with no basement?
Beacool
(30,244 posts)He's another creep who helped to get Trump into the WH. I will never forgive anyone who either colluded, voted for Trump, stayed home or decided that they were too "pure" to vote for Hillary last November. They can all rot in Hell as far as I'm concerned.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)roamer65
(36,739 posts)Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)This is a counter-intelligence, criminal investigation that just so happens to have about 100 crooked Republicans in its sights.
Don't let them control the narrative. The Republicans have spent generations on witch hunts. This isn't a witch hunt.
This is patriotism. This is the Constitution. This is a battle for the very integrity of our basic underpinnings.
hunter
(38,264 posts)I'm surprised they haven't put roofies in his dinner, stuffed him into a diplomatic pouch, and thrown him into the ditch at the side of a road somewhere on the way to the airport.
Be free, Julian, be free!
You could have escaped by now digging toward the sewer with a table spoon.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,280 posts)Skittles
(152,964 posts)nikibatts
(2,198 posts)election and Trump is still an illegitimate President running a corrupt regime from our WH. The fact the Assange is posting this means we must be closer than we think to charging some of Trump's campaign.
Freethinker65
(9,934 posts)Hekate
(90,202 posts)...and concomitantly he lives to damage the US.
regnaD kciN
(26,035 posts)Seriously, if you're going to take Assange as an impartial analyst, why not Pootie-Poot?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Johonny
(20,684 posts)Blue_Adept
(6,384 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,085 posts)hatrack
(59,442 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)this asshole I wonder.
DinahMoeHum
(21,737 posts)n/t
Gothmog
(144,005 posts)The man is a russian puppet and why would any member of the Democratic party care what he thinks? I was amused to see that the JPR idiots take Assange seriously
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)onecaliberal
(32,489 posts)Hekate
(90,202 posts)I'm sure they're around someplace...
Crickets
Vinca
(50,170 posts)True, they've both been accused of sexual assault, but there must be more than that. Big pay day from the Russians maybe?
R B Garr
(16,920 posts)will be revenged. You can't globally attack and humiliate our own government without some payback.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)campaign. It's is their game, the whole bunch.
BannonsLiver
(16,162 posts)He's a Russian asset. Has been for years.
VOX
(22,976 posts)Because he is a much-loved conduit for Russian propaganda and cyberwarfare.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)1. He knows jack fucking shit about politics (SEE: WikiLeaks Party and their 'coalition' with some fringe fascists)
2. He isn't American...
3. He doesn't vote...