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Mon Jun 19, 2017, 01:31 PM

Bernie Sanders encourages Senate Democrats to block GOP health care bill in any way that we can

Bernie Sanders encourages Senate Democrats to block GOP health care bill ‘in any way that we can’

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/bernie-sanders-tells-dems-block-gop-health-bill-article-1.3257497

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Deeming it “the worst piece of legislation” he had seen in his 26-year career in Congress, Sanders ruled out no option for Democrats to fight back as Republicans rush to finish the bill behind closed doors.

“They want to keep it secret, they don’t want the media involved, they don’t want members of Congress involved,” the 2016 “Feel the Bern” presidential candidate told “Face the Nation.”

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Reply Bernie Sanders encourages Senate Democrats to block GOP health care bill in any way that we can (Original post)
Hassin Bin Sober Monday OP
bettyellen Monday #1
George II Monday #38
bettyellen Monday #46
WhiteTara Monday #2
JCanete Monday #20
WhiteTara Monday #49
JCanete Monday #50
WhiteTara Monday #51
JCanete Monday #52
WhiteTara Monday #53
George II Monday #39
Eliot Rosewater Monday #3
Demsrule86 Monday #28
NCTraveler Monday #4
Voltaire2 Monday #5
Raster Monday #12
bettyellen Monday #13
JCanete Monday #21
bettyellen Monday #31
JCanete Monday #34
bettyellen Monday #35
Nevernose Monday #43
bettyellen Monday #44
QC Monday #15
Snotcicles Monday #16
QC Monday #29
bettyellen Monday #32
pirateshipdude Monday #6
Hassin Bin Sober Monday #7
pirateshipdude Monday #8
Hassin Bin Sober Monday #9
pirateshipdude Monday #10
Demsrule86 Monday #26
Demsrule86 Monday #27
bettyellen Monday #36
George II Tuesday #55
MineralMan Monday #11
tonedevil Monday #14
Demsrule86 Monday #25
George II Tuesday #54
murielm99 Monday #17
George II Monday #18
Hassin Bin Sober Monday #19
Demsrule86 Monday #24
George II Monday #40
Demsrule86 Monday #22
Hamlette Monday #23
Hekate Monday #30
pnwmom Monday #33
SecularMotion Monday #37
George II Monday #41
Nevernose Monday #42
bettyellen Monday #45
disillusioned73 Monday #48
disillusioned73 Monday #47

Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 01:33 PM

1. They are already doing this- why isn't he aware of that?

That's strange. People would get the wrong idea, wouldn't they?

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 03:53 PM

38. This story seems to be making the rounds this weekend, this is the second OP I've seen about it.

Meanwhile the Democratic Senate Leadership had already been urging this for a week or more.

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Response to George II (Reply #38)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 05:05 PM

46. I've seen talk about this since March or April. It's just weird as if it's not been in the wind for

months. I'm guessing Sanders knows that too. Not sure why he'd frame it as if the Dems needed him to lead.
It would have been interesting to see him join a broader coalition, not sure why there's hesitation over that. Nothing happens when you stand alone.

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 01:33 PM

2. So what is he going to do besides

tell others that THEY need to stop the pukes?

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Response to WhiteTara (Reply #2)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 02:49 PM

20. oh I'm sure he will just vote for it or abstain...what do you think he's going to do?

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Response to JCanete (Reply #20)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 06:53 PM

49. One of the two

I would hope he would make a great floor speech at the least.

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Response to WhiteTara (Reply #49)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 07:03 PM

50. you actually think he's going to do one of the two?

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Response to JCanete (Reply #50)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 07:04 PM

51. Is this a trick question?

I actually think he will vote no along with all the Democrats...unless of course he abstains.

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Response to WhiteTara (Reply #51)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 07:08 PM

52. it wasn't intended to be a trick question. My first post was kind of tongue and cheek. I wouldn't

expect him to abstain, nor vote for any Republican measure likely to come out of this Senate. When you said "one of those" I thought you were suggesting he might vote in favor of such legislation.

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Response to JCanete (Reply #52)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 07:10 PM

53. Well, I was sort of being flip because so were you

and I didn't really read the choices...I doubt that Bernie would ever vote for such a bill, but he might abstain for some reason unknown to us all but him.

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Response to WhiteTara (Reply #2)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 03:56 PM

39. Inasmuch as he has eschewed membership in the Democratic Party, that's a good question.

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 01:34 PM

3. Call your senators, today.

I do wonder what would happen if they passed their bill, started immediately killing Americans and bankrupting and making homeless millions more, if it could lead to single payer?

Not until the deplorables are feeling the pain will anything change. If it is just the poor and minorities suffering, they wont notice or care.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 02:59 PM

28. No, we would go back to no insurance for millions...we won't get singe payer anytime soon.

and this will be slow walked akin to boiling frogs so as to minimize the political damage.

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 01:34 PM

4. Lead the way, Sanders.

Lets see you pull out all the stops.

He seems to not be paying attention.

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 01:41 PM

5. Amazing that people have found a way to criticize this.

Actually no, it isn't amazing. It's sad.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #5)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 01:52 PM

12. It is sad. The same voices with the same tired rhetoric.

Over and over and over and over again.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #5)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 01:52 PM

13. Because it's deceptive to "encourage" people to do what they're already doing.

It would be super appreciated if he could support Dems, for sure. But this isn't teamwork, it's just weird.

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #13)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 02:52 PM

21. really? There are articles daily...I got something from Kos, that suggests that Democrats may not


fight this. All he's saying is that we should pull out all the stops and fight this. No, this is not a done deal. We will see whether or not the Party puts all of its energy into stopping this. There is no certainty yet, that that is the case.

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Response to JCanete (Reply #21)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 03:11 PM

31. They've been fighting it, and pledged to force senate hearings last week, today promised to

Use procedural rules to block everything. If I know those things, why doesn't Sanders? Why isn't he working closely WITH Dems, instead of giving the false impression that they're doing nothing? It's not helpful- it's feeding a crappy RW narrative. How about some actual unity instead?

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #31)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 03:24 PM

34. If he says they're doing nothing, it isn't here in this article. I didn't personally get that


false impression. I'm not sure why you did, aside from us seeing Sanders through entirely different lenses.

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Response to JCanete (Reply #34)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 03:31 PM

35. Well saying "encourages to" sounds like he's out of the loop. And I doubt that. Why not "encouraged

By" or "joins with" ? Why would he choose to make it sound like noting is happening when he should actually be working WITH them. Instead it's a lecture that they should be doing what they are doing.

You may think it's a small point, but it's actually framing Dems as feckless, and that's just not true. I don't get why he chooses to do that, instead of acting in concert. He's been given a big megaphone, so I wish he'd be more thoughtful about his choice of words.

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #31)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 04:41 PM

43. "Today promised" you say?

The article, and Sanders' quoted, are from yesterday. I guess it's a good thing he pushed for it, since as of yesterday the senate Dems weren't on board with the full healthcare obstruction.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/17/politics/senate-democrats-gop-health-care/index.html

Hillary won the primary. Stop being such a sore winner.

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Response to Nevernose (Reply #43)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 04:53 PM

44. They have been talking about this for weeks- how come Sanders

Isn't talking with them about it or working with them? This has been in the papers off and in since March, saw reports about it last week too.
This is a serious question about now.
How would Sanders not know this?

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #5)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 02:01 PM

15. Those who are determined to rehash the primary can always find a way.

No need to be creative about it, either, since any pretext will do.

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Response to QC (Reply #15)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 02:06 PM

16. These are also great post count builders for newbies. nt

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Response to Snotcicles (Reply #16)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 02:59 PM

29. Hadn't thought about that, but you've got a point. n/t

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Response to QC (Reply #15)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 03:13 PM

32. Those determined to bash DUers instead of addressing the substance of what they are saying..

Talking about the here and now- not interested in your attempts to make this about the primary. It's been over for more than a year, move on.

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 01:43 PM

6. Democrats were on it way before Sanders got in front of the camera. Eom

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Response to pirateshipdude (Reply #6)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 01:45 PM

7. As the county's most popular politician and part of The Democratic Party Leadership, ...

... he belongs in front of the camera.

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #7)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 01:46 PM

8. While the Democrats continue to do the work? Eom

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Response to pirateshipdude (Reply #8)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 01:49 PM

9. I'm pretty sure drumming up support for our policies is part of the "work"

Or maybe we should continue to let Sunday programs remain as "Meet The Republicans" and "Face The GOP"

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #9)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 01:51 PM

10. There is a reason for 3-1. When one of the 1 is impugning Democrats,

We lose.

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #9)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 02:55 PM

26. What support?

Show me any evidence of any additional support...I would love it if you could.

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #9)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 02:57 PM

27. Also, putting in a single payer bill was less than helpful. We all want it. But, it is not possible

at the moment...a bill to improve the ACA should have been offered instead...now that would have been a good idea.

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #9)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 03:33 PM

36. Can we see the emails he's sent you on this?

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #7)

Tue Jun 20, 2017, 06:42 PM

55. Chittenden County?

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 01:52 PM

11. Thanks, Bernie, for that advice.

You, know, of course, that the Democrats would be happy to have you become a Democrat in the Senate, right?

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #11)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 02:00 PM

14. Actually I think...

the Senate Democrats are happy to caucus with him even if he stays registered Independent. Squawking voices in the peanut gallery are of course still squawking.

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Response to tonedevil (Reply #14)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 02:54 PM

25. He should join the Dem Party...it would send a unifying message.

But of course it is always his choice.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #25)

Tue Jun 20, 2017, 06:39 PM

54. ...

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 02:38 PM

17. The Democrats are doing this already.

They can do this with or without his commentary.

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 02:45 PM

18. Democratic Senate Leadership had already urged their members to do so.

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Response to George II (Reply #18)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 02:47 PM

19. Bernie is part of the Democratic Senate Leadership. So, um , yeah.

Glad we straightened that out.

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #19)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 02:53 PM

24. It was decided earlier is all.

Sen. Sanders is outreach...thus, this probably does not directly concern him.

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #19)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 03:57 PM

40. You may want to research his role in the Democratic Senate Leadership.

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 02:52 PM

22. They already said the would...heard it earlier today.

And they can't block it...they can slow it down but unless it gets really bad numbers when it is reviewed, they will do it through reconciliation. We need to work the phones...in Ohio Portman personally told me he would not vote for it but...who knows.

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 02:53 PM

23. let the independents do it!

He wants/needs our party, he can the fuck quit trashing us. What a hypocrite.

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 03:00 PM

30. I believe the Dems are already on this, Bernie. But thanks all the same.

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 03:18 PM

33. The Senate Democrats are already blocking it in any way they can.

What is Bernie doing with his contact list to ask his supporters to contact the GOP Congress?

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 03:34 PM

37. Another BernieBait thread

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Response to SecularMotion (Reply #37)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 03:58 PM

41. Boom!

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 04:32 PM

42. Good God. ANYTHING to bash Bernie

He was on the Sunday shows, including CNN, when he said what was in the OP. But here's what Senate Democrats were telling CNN the day before:

(CNN)Senate Democrats are weighing whether to bring the chamber's business to a halt next week in an effort to voice their objections to the GOP health care push, according to sources familiar with the effort.

The Democratic leadership and rank-and-file members are planning to prevent the chamber from conducting routine business, including allowing committees to meet for extended hearings when the Senate is in session. And they will demand an open process to consider health care when the Senate reconvenes Monday.
Democrats might use parliamentary maneuvers to prevent committees from meeting for longer than two hours.

If carried through, the hardball tactics would make it difficult for Republicans to schedule votes even on uncontroversial bills and nominees, further slowing down the already slow-moving body.
One Democratic source cautioned that the caucus may not go that far given the bipartisan atmosphere following the shooting at a congressional baseball practice Wednesday.
But other Democrats said they wanted to escalate the fight to give more prominence to the GOP's closed-door process of drafting health care legislation, which Republican leaders want to pass by month's end.
"As of yesterday, no decisions had been made about procedural tactics, but the message was that everything is on the table," a Democratic aide said.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/17/politics/senate-democrats-gop-health-care/index.html

So many DUers will go so far out of their way to hate Bernie Sanders it's scary. But fuck all that factual stuff CNN said, am I right? As long as everyone hates Bernie Sanders for no apparent logical reason. Sheesh.

Why would any sane person disagree with anything Bernie Sanders said? It's a hell of a lot better than whoever in the Senate leadership suggested we give up on health care because "bipartisanship."

Sanders is trying to make America better. Many DUers? Not so much.

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Response to Nevernose (Reply #42)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 04:58 PM

45. I am decidedly not a hater- but I don't understand why Sanders did not talk about their plans? What

good did it do him to ignore what they are planning -instead of joining in and showing some solidarity?
I don't get it. Also not fond of this "hate" crap, just spare me.

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Response to Nevernose (Reply #42)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 05:12 PM

48. Well..

RWers do say CNN is fake news.. so there is that..

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 05:10 PM

47. Show'm how itz done Bernie..

Sarcasm?..

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