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Tue Jun 13, 2017, 11:54 PM

How did the Bernie endorsed candidate do in the Virginia primary?

We overwhelmingly went with the other guy. Thank goodness. I was a little concerned for an hour or so.

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Reply How did the Bernie endorsed candidate do in the Virginia primary? (Original post)
LexVegas Jun 2017 OP
JI7 Jun 2017 #1
Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #19
Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #19
Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #22
Gothmog Jun 2017 #2
brush Jun 2017 #3
comradebillyboy Jun 2017 #4
jonno99 Jun 2017 #5
brush Jun 2017 #6
WhiteTara Jun 2017 #7
JTFrog Jun 2017 #13
jonno99 Jun 2017 #8
Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #27
Cha Jun 2017 #11
brush Jun 2017 #12
Cha Jun 2017 #43
Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #23
brachism Jun 2017 #9
Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #18
Cha Jun 2017 #10
DefenseLawyer Jun 2017 #14
Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #17
alarimer Jun 2017 #30
NurseJackie Jun 2017 #15
Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #16
FSogol Jun 2017 #21
Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #24
jalan48 Jun 2017 #25
Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #28
jalan48 Jun 2017 #31
Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #32
jalan48 Jun 2017 #33
Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #36
jalan48 Jun 2017 #37
Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #38
lunamagica Jun 2017 #46
Wounded Bear Jun 2017 #41
jalan48 Jun 2017 #42
MineralMan Jun 2017 #26
NCTraveler Jun 2017 #29
ProfessorGAC Jun 2017 #34
mythology Jun 2017 #35
QC Jun 2017 #45
Greybnk48 Jun 2017 #39
Orsino Jun 2017 #40
QC Jun 2017 #44

Response to LexVegas (Original post)

Tue Jun 13, 2017, 11:57 PM

1. the election was about Virginia State Politics and the guy that won had the endorsement

of most Virginia democratic officials so he won.

elections are often about state and local politics so what cable news is discussing or what is important to some other town or state is not always the same with other places.

i always tell people if they want different elected officials they need to go to the people in that officials district/state and find out from them why they support that person and what issues are important to them.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 09:22 AM

19. You can't deny that Sen. Sanders campaigned very hard for Perriello and hoped to

encourage his (young) voters to turn out...there were many "Our revolution" types on the ground...but the voters didn't turn out. Perriello was endorsed by both Warren and Sanders. There is a message somewhere in there.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 09:26 AM

22. Double post? That never happened!

I would add that there is no reason to believe that Sen. Sanders or Warren endorsements for that matter works in moderate or red states...as all of his picks have gone down. I mention this only to reinforce the idea that we need a big tent with a diversity of views in order to take the majority in Congress. Northam is very liberal and has run strongly against Trump. They both did.

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Response to LexVegas (Original post)

Tue Jun 13, 2017, 11:58 PM

2. Yeah

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Response to LexVegas (Original post)

Tue Jun 13, 2017, 11:58 PM

3. What does that mean? Did the Sanders guy win or not?

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Response to brush (Reply #3)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 12:08 AM

4. Northam won by more than 11 points

it wasn't really close. The guy Bernie endorsed lost.

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Response to jonno99 (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 12:11 AM

6. Have any of his candidates won?

Last edited Wed Jun 14, 2017, 01:34 AM - Edit history (1)

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Response to brush (Reply #6)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 12:12 AM

7. none

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Response to WhiteTara (Reply #7)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 09:09 AM

13. More proof he isn't helping anyone but himself. nt

 

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Response to brush (Reply #6)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 12:13 AM

8. Here is some info:

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Response to jonno99 (Reply #8)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 09:30 AM

27. They are running candidates to oppose other Democrats...and can fuck off.

I would not give them a wooden nickel.

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Response to brush (Reply #6)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 03:08 AM

11. Here's a tweet you might be interested in, brush..

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Response to Cha (Reply #11)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 09:07 AM

12. Wow! That's something to think about, Cha. His divisiveness remains a factor with AA voters.

He maybe needs to stand down as his endorsement is popular with his die-hards, with others, not so much.

This split doesn't bode well for 2018 which is the last thing we need.

A certain Dem-bashing non-Dem continues to be a problem.

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Response to brush (Reply #12)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 03:29 PM

43. Exactly.. like we've been sayin.

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Response to brush (Reply #3)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 09:27 AM

23. Nope...it was a blow out.

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Response to LexVegas (Original post)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 02:51 AM

9. Well Northam did have the endorsement ...

Ralph Northam did have the endorsement of Virginia political establishment, but mostly importantly the endorsement of the next president of the United States, Terry McAuliffe.

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Response to brachism (Reply #9)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 09:19 AM

18. McAuliffe has been a great governor and very progressive.

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Response to LexVegas (Original post)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 03:07 AM

10. This Tweet says a lot..

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Response to LexVegas (Original post)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 09:12 AM

14. Win the general

 

Otherwise your bizarre gloating is kinda meaningless, isn't it?

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Response to DefenseLawyer (Reply #14)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 09:18 AM

17. Northam is favored to win...we shall see. Traditionally Virginia does not go for the President's

party...the only exception was When President Obama was re-elected in 12...and we had Governor ultrasound running.

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Response to DefenseLawyer (Reply #14)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 09:42 AM

30. It's pretty fucking disgusting, that's for sure.

I really hate some people here.

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Response to LexVegas (Original post)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 09:16 AM

15. Fascinating. But...

... will the message be heard?

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Response to LexVegas (Original post)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 09:16 AM

16. I was delighted with the result. I think Northam is a stronger candidate.

Perhaps now, some will admit...that one size does not fit all in terms of candidates...and economics are important but so are other things...and we need a big tent approach.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #16)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 09:24 AM

21. Northam should steamroll Gillespie. Gillespie is essentially a sleazy lobbyist.

Northam needs to tie Trumpy and all the GOP corruption around Gillespie's neck.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #21)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 09:28 AM

24. Yes he should...Gillespie sucks... so that should help us.

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Response to LexVegas (Original post)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 09:29 AM

25. I think you are going to see more Bernie style Progressives elected in the blue west coast areas.

The west will lead the way for change-not the conservative southern states.

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #25)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 09:35 AM

28. Maybe...but that means beating sitting Democrats...not an accomplishment when it risks the seat

quite often.This is why I give no money to groups like 'our revolution'...while I often agree with their politics, they go after Democrats and not Republicans. This is a deal breaker for me. I also won't vote for any of their candidates in a primary for the same reason. I don't think Sen. Sanders has as much influence over actual voters as some think.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #28)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 09:46 AM

31. I think we all know some serious politcal changes are needed if we are to survive.

On the climate issue alone, incrementalism is a deadly strategy. My hope is that a progressive block can be created in this country and their ideas and energy spread out from there. Conservative politics will be the death of us all.

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #31)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 10:04 AM

32. I don't agree. And the idea that Democrats would not advance climate in a big way if they could

is baloney. Sometimes, it is incrementalism or nothing. I don't see how primarying Democrats in safe seats...waste of money and time will do any of what you say. We risk losing those seats with a new person.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #32)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 10:10 AM

33. I think people who have certain political beliefs will run and the people will decide.

If the people choose to go the more conservative route, so be it. I will always look at who is bankrolling the candidate, it's an indicator of how they will behave in office.

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #33)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 10:29 AM

36. No, I say run moderates and take the majority...

you won't win otherwise. I am not willing to say 'so be it' to conservative governance...some policy is better than none and actually losing progressive policy going back to Roosevelt.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #36)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 10:33 AM

37. The people will decide, that's how it works. Let whoever wants to run do it.

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #37)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 11:01 AM

38. If a person runs against a sitting Democrat and lose the seat, the GOP is enabled which is why

although I agree with 'our revolution' and groups like this politically, I don't support them at all...if they were fighting the GOP instead of wasting money in blue states primarying sitting Democrats, it would be different. Even running Perriello was a bad idea. Northam was a great candidate and money and time was wasted with this primary.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #32)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 06:58 PM

46. + a million

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #25)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 11:17 AM

41. Wishful thinking....

Hell, you're sporting a Mariners logo, so I'll assume you're local.

Bernie won the WA caucuses, Hillary won the popular vote. It looks to me like Bernie supporters are a vocal minority. That seems to work for the Repubs, I don't think it does so well for Dems. I'll withhold judgement.

Change itself is not bad, but we're learning first hand what amateur hour in the White House looks like. Not all Dem incumbents are evil.

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #41)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 12:26 PM

42. The people will decide. Present the ideas and let them choose.

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Response to LexVegas (Original post)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 09:29 AM

26. In local and statewide races, individual endorsements by people

who are not even from that state don't really carry a lot of weight. Local endorsements are far more important.

In the end, Bernie Sanders is a Senator from Vermont. That's who he is and has been. Most people in this country have never even been to Vermont. He's also a former primary candidate for President, but did not prevail and get the nomination.

Still, Senator Sanders is more than welcome to give his endorsement to whomever he chooses. What affect that endorsement will have, however, may not determine which candidate has the best chance to win. Other things are far more important in most elections that an out-of-stater's endorsement, frankly.

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Response to LexVegas (Original post)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 09:40 AM

29. I think "the other guy" would have been an excellent representative.

 

Bernie is Bernie. We can't define everyone he endorses on that endorsement alone. That in itself gives Sanders more respect and power than he deserves. We need to get behind the Democrat who wins the primary. "The other guy" stated that before the votes were even counted. That means something to me.

I'm not saying we should ignore what you have stated. It's just that we need to judge the candidates on their own merits. I'm not big on Sanders but I would gladly accept his endorsement if I were running.

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Response to LexVegas (Original post)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 10:11 AM

34. Rotten OP

Divisive clap-trap

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Response to LexVegas (Original post)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 10:18 AM

35. Please let the 2016 primary go

 

It has long since gotten tiresome.

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Response to mythology (Reply #35)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 03:33 PM

45. Some never will. n/t

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Response to LexVegas (Original post)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 11:03 AM

39. Divide and conquer. n/t

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Response to LexVegas (Original post)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 11:12 AM

40. This makes Sanders a terrible person who should not be allowed to endorse candidates. n/t

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Response to Orsino (Reply #40)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 03:33 PM

44. He makes Sweet Baby Jesus cry!

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