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Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 11:27 AM Jul 2012

Is there a formal movement to push taxation of churches?

I propose that we do so. If people what a theocracy, perhaps they should get the message that there is a user tax for having one. I guarantee you, the political churches would empty because greed is their only message now.

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appleannie1

(5,067 posts)
1. Since so many churches preach politics now, they really should not be tax exempt. Plus
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 11:35 AM
Jul 2012

in today's world, churches are 'for profit' organizations instead of charitable organizations so there is no reason at all to be tax exempt.

mzteris

(16,232 posts)
2. You only have one phrase wrong
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 11:36 AM
Jul 2012

"political churches" - make that "churches". (Not ALL of course, some really believe, but all of those "ministries" out there - especially the televangelist ones - they're only in it for ONE THING . . . $$$$$$$$$$$$$.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
4. When churches specifically and overtly espouse policy and promote political initiatives and other
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 11:41 AM
Jul 2012

churches sit in silence it implies assent to me. Those in the forefront of the politicization of religion could care a tinker's damn whether anyone agrees with their theology, even members of other denominations. How is forcing your beliefs on others via the law any different than any other theocratic state in the world? I will not live in a theocracy. There are a myriad of other belief systems beyond fundamentalist Christianity in this nation. I will not exclude their participation or protection under the law and I will not be excluded because I refuse to practice any.

mzteris

(16,232 posts)
9. um - I was agreeing with you . .
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 01:59 PM
Jul 2012

just expanding the criteria to strip churches - ALL churches - tax exemptions.

 

leftyohiolib

(5,917 posts)
3. i heard norman goldman say that there are churches taping their politial sermons and
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 11:41 AM
Jul 2012

sending the tape to the irs daring the irs to do something about it.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
5. I think research on their business patterns, co-relations, would be interesting.
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 11:48 AM
Jul 2012

Look at who is doing business with whom, hiring whom, firing whom.

Look at their national level organizations; ALL of them offer NETWORKING development services.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
7. Pay to play.
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 11:51 AM
Jul 2012

Not all churches but those who wish to be involved in any form of politics should be taxed.

Stop hiding behind that damn Xian cross!

SoutherDem

(2,307 posts)
8. Being that many churches are now political and for profit
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 11:54 AM
Jul 2012

I say tax away.

That said, I think there should be a test, which if they pass, prove they do not have a political agenda but are teaching their religion AND are not hoarding donations but are using them for running the church and helping the poor, then allow them to remain tax exempt. But, if they are political, or are just banking the money tax then like any other business.

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