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EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 12:55 AM Jun 2017

"Why are people still losing their minds over Hillary?"

http://theweek.com/articles/702218/why-are-people-still-losing-minds-over-hillary

"What is different about Hillary Clinton is the rampant misogyny still being directed at her, even now; the palpable disgust at her re-emergence; the demand that she get out of the way; the call for her to accept total responsibility for her loss without even acknowledging outside factors like the Russian disinformation campaign, the Comey letter, or GOP voter ID laws that cost her Wisconsin.
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"Gore, who managed to lose (okay, sort of lose) an election despite being the sitting vice president in an administration with 65 percent approval, blamed a hostile media, the Supreme Court's absurd one-off decision to halt the proceedings in Florida, and the butterfly ballots ... This is the man whose campaign mistakes inflicted eight years of calamitous misrule on the country. If he ever apologized, I must have missed it ... Kerry never accepted one iota of responsibility for becoming the second consecutive Democrat to lose an election to George W. Bush. ... He blamed his campaign manager, Bob Shrum. He blamed the Swift Boat Veterans For Truth, that pack of lying opportunists who slimed Kerry's war record ... What he did not do was cop to any of his own mistakes. He went back to the Senate, where no one demanded that he give up his seat for a younger politician ... In October 2009, just one year after his crushing loss to Obama, McCain was regarded favorably by 54 percent of respondents, remained a press darling, and never disavowed his choice to make the wilderness wastrel Sarah Palin his running mate, a decision that by one estimate cost him 2 million votes ...

"In an interview days after the election, McCain blamed the national political climate and stood by Palin. He failed to list a single mistake his campaign had made. He said he 'slept like a baby.' Today he remains a curmudgeonly favorite despite not lifting a finger to hold President Trump accountable ... In a Washington Post interview four months after the 2012 election, Romney blamed (you guessed it!) the media, and, incomprehensibly, the black and Hispanic voters who went overwhelmingly for Obama ... Yet when he re-emerged last year during the 2016 campaign, Romney was greeted with relief and hosannas by GOP elites for criticizing Trump. After Trump won, the entire country was hanging on every detail of Romney's sad little candlelight dinner with Trump, hoping against hope that he would be appointed secretary of state.
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"In contrast to many past losers, she told CNN's Christiane Amanpour, 'I take absolute personal responsibility. I was the candidate, I was the person who was on the ballot.' Her boiling anger at the press and at various out-of-nowhere campaign developments doesn't make her worse than Gore, Kerry, Romney, and McCain — it makes her one of them.

"And that really only leaves one thing that is just so very different about Hillary Clinton. Let's see if you can guess what it is."
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mhw

(678 posts)
1. No one except Hillary Clinton has the integrity to own the disaster we now face
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 01:03 AM
Jun 2017

No one who aided the coup has the integrity & honesty within to say "I too was complicit. I also dropped the ball when it came time to stand for my country, its people & a secure future for the planet."

Bunch of cowardly fkers aren't they all.

 

mhw

(678 posts)
18. Not one thing I posted was exaggerated.
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 12:28 AM
Jun 2017

Hillary appears to be the only person standing there admitting her role
While the haters, media, fringers dividers & double talking Sarandons & Steiners all stand with their hands shoved in their pockets , watching their shoes kicking dirt around.

They cannot even look the world in the damn eyes & admit they too played a role in selling out America for a grand paycheck while the clicks & likes were coming in.

That is not an exaggeration.

emulatorloo

(44,116 posts)
3. Probably sooner than "left" bloggers admit they fell for Russia's targeted propaganda campaign
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 01:15 AM
Jun 2017

The TYT's, the Twitters, etc.

Maybe that's why they want her to shut up so badly. They don't want to face that truth about themselves.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
6. Because our society is a lot more comfortable scolding women
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 01:20 AM
Jun 2017

I like the auto-fill option that allows me to use that subject line over and over again. I hate that I have to use that subject line over and over again.

jazzcat23

(176 posts)
7. It's a distraction
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 01:27 AM
Jun 2017

to continue to trash Hillary. In order to deny their stupidity for letting the trumplethinskin get in. I don't believe these trumpettes will ever own up to their mistake. Well, maybe after they lose everything, their healthcare, their hospitals, their schools, their safe water, food, and clean air. And of course, all the jobs that will be lost. When they have to pay more than ever before, and get less for that money. But really it will take another war for no good reason, their sons and daughters go to die due to trumpys ego.....maybe then, just maybe.

IndianaDave

(612 posts)
9. Personally, I'm sick to death of hearing criticisms of Hillary!
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 01:48 AM
Jun 2017

She had well-developed policies, but was misrepresented by a lot of well-intentioned people. Her campaign suffered from an unprecedented convergence of factors, which were enumerated by EffieBlack in this post. Please, just let Hillary express her perceptions without attacking her. She's not perfect, and has never claimed to be, but rather, she really is a heroine and not an enemy. Give her a break!

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
11. HRC has been blamed for damn near everything for the last thirty years.
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 02:30 AM
Jun 2017

HRC had millions more votes than the illegitimate mess that currently resides in the oval office. If it wasn't for our antiquated electoral college voting process, which negates the will of the people, she would be taking care of the important work of our country instead of dismantling and destroying our democracy as drumpf is. The voters should be accepting total responsibility for her loss; the voters are the only ones responsible for installing the current chaotic, insane authoritarian regime.

rogue emissary

(3,148 posts)
17. the interestin thing is Palin seemed more sought after once she lost and then quit the governorship
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 11:51 PM
Jun 2017

She got the Fox News gig, had two or three different TV shows that eventually got canceled. Started the online network. All the while touring the country every few months raising money and not running for any political position. The MSM never elevate the left's cry for her to go away.

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