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Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:38 PM

After Dump gets impeached, can we undo the things he's done like the Paris agreement?

Is it possible to just reinstate it as it was, or will the US have to start from scratch all over again?

What a fucking joke this guy is...

Making America Dumb Again...

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Reply After Dump gets impeached, can we undo the things he's done like the Paris agreement? (Original post)
WoonTars Jun 2017 OP
marylandblue Jun 2017 #1
katmondoo Jun 2017 #2
nolabear Jun 2017 #3
NYC Liberal Jun 2017 #4
itcfish Jun 2017 #5
ButSeeYa Jun 2017 #6
The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #7
Elwood P Dowd Jun 2017 #8
Turbineguy Jun 2017 #9
Txbluedog Jun 2017 #10
Turbineguy Jun 2017 #12
NobodyHere Jun 2017 #14
Dave Starsky Jun 2017 #15
kskiska Jun 2017 #17
onecaliberal Jun 2017 #11
Warpy Jun 2017 #13
CanonRay Jun 2017 #16
matt819 Jun 2017 #18

Response to WoonTars (Original post)

Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:40 PM

1. We should be able to rejoin at any time

But don't expect a President Pence, Ryan or Hatch to do that.

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Response to WoonTars (Original post)

Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:41 PM

2. I was thinking of this too

Can we redo everything he has done?

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Response to WoonTars (Original post)

Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:41 PM

3. If we get an actual human being in office.

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Response to WoonTars (Original post)

Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:43 PM

4. You mean will Pence? No.

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Response to WoonTars (Original post)

Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:44 PM

5. Every EO

and his whole administration should be declared null & void

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Response to WoonTars (Original post)

Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:45 PM

6. Yes, we can.

Just as he is trying to erase Obama's legacy, the next President (hopefully, someone reasonable and with a brain), can also undo what Trump has put in place.

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Response to WoonTars (Original post)

Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:45 PM

7. Yes. Paris was always voluntary anyhow,

and individual entities can (and many will) continue to do what they've already been doing to reduce carbon emissions and greenhouse gases because it's smart business and politically popular. There will be little immediate environmental damage as a result of this; the damage in the short term will be to the image and standing of the United States, which Dolt 45 has sacrificed in order to curry favor with the remaining deplorables. Even most big corporations were against pulling out.

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Response to WoonTars (Original post)

Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:46 PM

8. Not until 2021 at least.

Maybe not even then with all the voter suppression and voting machine manipulation put in place by the repukes. Repukes won't budge until Washington, New York, and Miami are under water.

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Response to WoonTars (Original post)

Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:46 PM

9. Withdrawal takes 3 years.

Trump is going to re-negotiate a better accord. Which he could do anyway.

He's "pulling out" in order to keep his campaign promise. All he has to do is say he's pulling out. None of his supporters will check up on him to see if he'll actually do it. And if somebody should notice, he can just say he pulled out.

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Response to Turbineguy (Reply #9)

Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:48 PM

10. Speaking of pulling out, why oh why did his father not think to do that

 

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Response to Txbluedog (Reply #10)

Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:51 PM

12. Tempting....

nope, not going there.

Let's just say it would qualify as a "low quality statement".

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Response to Turbineguy (Reply #9)

Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:53 PM

14. Why would withdrawal take three years

 

I don't think Trump is going to honor anything Obama signed.

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Response to Turbineguy (Reply #9)

Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:54 PM

15. "Renegotiate an accord"? Trump?

Trump couldn't negotiate an accord between two toddlers fighting over a Barbie doll.

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Response to Dave Starsky (Reply #15)

Thu Jun 1, 2017, 04:05 PM

17. Repeal and Replace

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Response to WoonTars (Original post)

Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:49 PM

11. Make America fucked

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Response to WoonTars (Original post)

Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:52 PM

13. Some, not all. Alas, he's shown the world this country can be trusted only

four years at a time. Since our safeguard against installing a populist lunatic--the EC--failed, no nation can possibly trust us not to elect another one just like him.

This is something I hope the GOP is waking up to, the damage he does will be mostly international, piled on top of the damage Stupid did. Here, it's mostly fatheads in red hats looking for fights. Overseas, it's a tremendous loss of trust and prestige.

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Response to WoonTars (Original post)

Thu Jun 1, 2017, 04:05 PM

16. Ahh, Pence will be POTUS

and he will only add to the misery.

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Response to WoonTars (Original post)

Thu Jun 1, 2017, 04:24 PM

18. Not with pence

But in 2020? That's the question. How much can the next Democratic president do to undo the fantastic damage this buffoon has created so far, to say nothing of what he or pence will do in the coming years.

IMHO, it will take a generation or more to undo the damage - politically, morally, financially, militarily (NATO), racism/white supremacy. As for the planet, states and corporations will continue to forge ahead on their own initiatives, so maybe the failure of the US as a nation to meet its goals under the Paris accords might not be so awful. But the rest of it? At least 20 years. After all, we're still dealing (badly) with the aftermath of 9/11, what with troops still in Afghanistan, the turmoil in Iraq and Syria, the rise of ISIS and terrorism. And that's only if we can get Republicans out in 2018 and 2020 and keep Dems in the WH for more than 2 terms. Otherwise? Who the hell knows.

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