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Jimbo101

(776 posts)
Mon May 29, 2017, 12:47 AM May 2017

European Union considering its own nuclear weapons program over fears it cannot rely on Trump

Rawstory

As German Chancellor Angela Merkel floats the notion that Europe cannot rely on the United States in the capacity is has in the past, core U.S. allies are ramping up discussions of a European Union nuclear weapons program—or “Eurodeterrent”—that would place France’s weapons arsenal under a common European command, the New York Times reports.

Though proponents are in the minority on the European continent, the idea is a sign of growing concern that the United States, under President Donald Trump, is not committed to the defense of Europe in the same way his predecessors were.

German Council on Foreign Relations head Jana Puglierin said some senior European officials have “triggered a public debate about this, taking place in newspapers and journals, radio interviews and TV documentaries.”

“That in itself is remarkable,” she added. “I am indeed very astonished that we discuss this at all.”

Foundation for Strategic Research deputy director Bruno Tertrais told the Times he previously would have said, “don’t bother, there’s no story here,” but said such a plan could be enacted provided “a serious loss of trust in the U.S. umbrella.” And, given Britain’s pending departure from the E.U., “the French might feel they have a special responsibility” to protect Europe.

Such a loss in trust may be on the horizon. Trump is just now returning from a trip to a NATO summit, which House Minority leader Nancy Pelosi said “disrespected out closest allies.” He also failed to voice support for NATO’s Article 5, which is the principle of collective defense that guides the alliance. It commits member nations to protect fellow members and was invoked for the first time after the 9/11 terrorist attacks against the United States.
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European Union considering its own nuclear weapons program over fears it cannot rely on Trump (Original Post) Jimbo101 May 2017 OP
I Wouldn't Give Trump An Ovaltine Decoder Ring Grassy Knoll May 2017 #1
I wouldn't worry about that. He could not decode that even for how long he Doreen May 2017 #2
No way Sgent May 2017 #3
If you know the history blue-wave May 2017 #6
He said as much during the campaign; nukes for everyone. procon May 2017 #4
I'd be extremely surprised. Kentonio May 2017 #5
Nothing creates unity like being attacked by a common enemy (Trump/Putin). nt SunSeeker May 2017 #7
Indeed, and personally I'd love to see the EU become a proper federal union. Kentonio May 2017 #8

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
2. I wouldn't worry about that. He could not decode that even for how long he
Mon May 29, 2017, 01:07 AM
May 2017

spends in the bathroom starting at 3:00 am. Besides Ralphie is much smarter.

blue-wave

(4,347 posts)
6. If you know the history
Mon May 29, 2017, 02:46 AM
May 2017

between France and Poland, they are historically close allies. And I mean waaaay back in history. So I would never say never.

That said, this would be a huge blow for the human race. The last thing we need is another armed nuclear group. Good job Mr. President!(sarcasm)

procon

(15,805 posts)
4. He said as much during the campaign; nukes for everyone.
Mon May 29, 2017, 01:19 AM
May 2017

He said the same thing, that it was America's job to help other countries, so they needed to get their own bombs.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
5. I'd be extremely surprised.
Mon May 29, 2017, 02:37 AM
May 2017

France are incredibly independent when it comes to their nuclear arsenal and it could bring into question their permanent seat on the Security Council. If this actually ever happened, I think it would basically guarantee that the EU was morphing into a truly federalist political union.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
8. Indeed, and personally I'd love to see the EU become a proper federal union.
Mon May 29, 2017, 03:03 AM
May 2017

It's perfectly placed geographically, culturally and politically to act as a counterweight between the US, Russia and China.

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