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Wed May 24, 2017, 08:32 PM

There have been three presidents I've despised...

They are Ronald Reagan, Bush II, and of course, our current president. My middle finger does an automatic salute whenever I hear or see them. Reflexive.

BUT, with our current president, this is the first and only time in my adult life I have despised the people who voted for him.

Is this a first for anyone else?

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Reply There have been three presidents I've despised... (Original post)
Comatose Sphagetti May 2017 OP
rurallib May 2017 #1
Greywing May 2017 #4
Spider Jerusalem May 2017 #10
Greywing May 2017 #15
SCantiGOP May 2017 #13
StevieM May 2017 #21
SCantiGOP May 2017 #29
StevieM May 2017 #31
napi21 May 2017 #32
dem4decades May 2017 #11
Rhett Cohen May 2017 #39
StevieM May 2017 #25
Rhett Cohen May 2017 #41
The Blue Flower May 2017 #2
SJMULE May 2017 #33
Rhett Cohen May 2017 #42
liberal N proud May 2017 #3
Different Drummer May 2017 #5
LisaM May 2017 #6
StevieM May 2017 #22
LisaM May 2017 #24
StevieM May 2017 #27
Rhett Cohen May 2017 #43
Doreen May 2017 #7
The Velveteen Ocelot May 2017 #8
Rhett Cohen May 2017 #45
jrthin May 2017 #9
treestar May 2017 #12
NRaleighLiberal May 2017 #14
NightWatcher May 2017 #16
Rhett Cohen May 2017 #46
indie_voter May 2017 #17
jimlup May 2017 #18
GP6971 May 2017 #19
Greybnk48 May 2017 #20
Laura PourMeADrink May 2017 #23
hrmjustin May 2017 #26
JTFrog May 2017 #28
Martin Eden May 2017 #30
drmeow May 2017 #34
Foamfollower May 2017 #35
GReedDiamond May 2017 #36
TeamPooka May 2017 #37
bdjhawk May 2017 #38
Rhett Cohen May 2017 #40
Meowmee May 2017 #44

Response to Comatose Sphagetti (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 08:34 PM

1. No Nixon?

I had a white hot hate for that man.

edit to add - I had a hate for those that voted for Nixon, but not like I have for Trump voters.

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Response to rurallib (Reply #1)

Wed May 24, 2017, 08:38 PM

4. I did too but I'm 61 ..

Many DUers may be too young to remember Nixon (that disgusting POS)

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Response to Greywing (Reply #4)

Wed May 24, 2017, 08:52 PM

10. median age in the US is 38; most people weren't alive when Nixon was president (n/t)

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Response to Spider Jerusalem (Reply #10)

Wed May 24, 2017, 08:58 PM

15. Well that's information I didn't know .... now I feel positively ancient!

... 38 is just too young for that to be the median age.

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Response to Greywing (Reply #4)

Wed May 24, 2017, 08:56 PM

13. Nixon was the worst President ever

Until Bush became the worst until Trump became the by-a-mile worst.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #13)

Wed May 24, 2017, 09:19 PM

21. I thought Reagan was much worse than Nixon.

And when the time comes, let's give Mike Pence a chance. He may prove the be the worst ever, even worse that Donald Trump.

I cannot imagine that Scott Walker would be any better than Trump if he had been elected. And he would certainly be stunningly corrupt and abusive of his power.

There is so much focus on Trump that some people forget just how evil some other Republicans are.

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Response to StevieM (Reply #21)

Wed May 24, 2017, 09:46 PM

29. My hatred of Nixon

had as much to do with Viet Nam as it did domestic policy and corruption.
But I will accept your basic premise that Reagan did more harm to the country if you or a family member wasn't killed fighting an immoral war.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #29)

Wed May 24, 2017, 09:50 PM

31. Good point about Vietnam. And now we know that he was interfering with the peace negotiations. (eom)

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Response to StevieM (Reply #21)

Wed May 24, 2017, 09:52 PM

32. Reagan was by far the worst...up till now! Remember it was Uncle Ronnie that sponsored the

"Trickle Down Theory" and the Pubs are Still hooked on it! His actions started the war on our unions (the air traffic controllers), eliminated the interest deductions for all the smaller taxes that helped out the little guy (department store credit cards) & many other smaller deductions the average earners could use if they kept good records. Many of the things he did are still in effect today. That IMO makes him the worst prez just because of the longevity of his changes,

The actual results of the Con administration is yet to be seen. It's still way too soon,

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Response to rurallib (Reply #1)

Wed May 24, 2017, 08:53 PM

11. I hated Nixon too but he did create EPA and was in favor of universal healthcare.

Compared to our present asshole he's looking better by the day.

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Response to dem4decades (Reply #11)

Thu May 25, 2017, 02:54 AM

39. Universal Basic Income, too...

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/05/richard-nixon-ubi-basic-income-welfare/

Some of these brilliant capitalists realize people need money to buy things, and if no one has money, no one buys anything, and if no one buys anything, they go broke.

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Response to rurallib (Reply #1)

Wed May 24, 2017, 09:33 PM

25. It is possible that he or she was not yet alive, or is too young to remember Nixon.

He is before my time too.

I always hated Reagan. I never hated another president as much until Trump came along. That goes for losing candidates too, like Dole, McCain and Romney.

Ironically, I sometimes feel like I am less hard on Trump compared to other people on this board because I won't stop attacking James Comey. I am frightened by how many people are glossing over his actions. The fact that he doesn't like Trump, and is willing to investigate him, does not mitigate what he did. Repeatedly.

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Response to StevieM (Reply #25)

Thu May 25, 2017, 03:01 AM

41. After he lost, I started to like funnyman Dole, like where was that guy during the campaign?

Plus, if he were just starting out in the house, he'd be a centrist Dem these days, most likely.

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Response to Comatose Sphagetti (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 08:36 PM

2. My hatred is for those who know what he is but still support him

Some of his voters just wanted to believe the fantasy. His enablers in DC know it was pure fantasy and that he's 120% corrupt, but they're content to use him to the detriment of all.

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Response to The Blue Flower (Reply #2)

Wed May 24, 2017, 09:52 PM

33. Being from NJ

 

seeing what he did to AC and working for Trump myself. I have a white hot distaste for the apparent ignorance of his career and the man he always was by those who believed his campaign BS.

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Response to The Blue Flower (Reply #2)

Thu May 25, 2017, 03:07 AM

42. I still don't get those "This rich plurocrat has my best inerests at heart" idiot voters who are

clinging to that fantasy harder than their guns, Bibles, and/or cousin/girlfriends.

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Response to Comatose Sphagetti (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 08:36 PM

3. A concure

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Response to Comatose Sphagetti (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 08:40 PM

5. I am with you on the three presidents. n/t

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Response to Comatose Sphagetti (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 08:42 PM

6. Pretty close.

I never felt that Bush voters hated me. I think Trump voters do.

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Response to LisaM (Reply #6)

Wed May 24, 2017, 09:21 PM

22. They were pretty abusive at the time of the Iraq War. Remember how they openly said

that liberals hate America?

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Response to StevieM (Reply #22)

Wed May 24, 2017, 09:28 PM

24. Yes, but it didn't feel personal at the time of the election.

I really think a lot of it felt that way because our candidate was a woman.

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Response to LisaM (Reply #24)

Wed May 24, 2017, 09:38 PM

27. Good point. It felt personal in between the elections.

And, yes, gender issues played a huge factor in this election. It wasn't so much that people were saying "you're a woman so you don't get the job." It was about a woman not having the same ability to push back on smear campaigns and attacks, which meant there was no limit to how far they could be taken.

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Response to LisaM (Reply #6)

Thu May 25, 2017, 03:09 AM

43. I'm pretty sure those are the same people though.

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Response to Comatose Sphagetti (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 08:48 PM

7. I did not like Reagan voters but

I despise trump voters.

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Response to Comatose Sphagetti (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 08:50 PM

8. Until Bush II, Nixon was #1 on my shit list.

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I had no use for Reagan, either; but Nixon and Bush II had me yelling at my TV on an almost daily basis. I even kept the little black & white portable TV I watched Nixon's resignation speech on for some 30 years as a sort of souvenir. I couldn't quite bring myself to loathe his voters (many of whom wouldn't admit having voted for him after Watergate) because a lot of my relatives were among them. My great-aunt, who had a sort of a shrine to him in her living room, continued to insist he'd been framed.

Reagan voters annoyed me but in those days Republicans were considered "normal" (though by the end of Reagan's second term they seemed to be a good deal less so). People who voted for Bush the first time were annoying because so many apparently voted for him because they thought he was someone they'd like to have a beer with. My own parents liked him because he seemed (to them, not to me) like "a nice guy." After the second election, though, Bush voters started to piss me off because they didn't seem to get what a big fuckup Iraq was - or the fact that it was based on lies. McCain voters pissed me off mostly because it didn't bother them that Sarah Palin would be an old man's heartbeat away from the presidency.

But Trump voters? A whole 'nother breed, and a whole hell of a lot of them. I can't even comprehend why someone with two brain cells to rub together would vote for someone so galactically unqualified and personally reprehensible. Stupid? Ignorant? Racist? Just mean? All of the above? I'm still gobsmacked.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #8)

Thu May 25, 2017, 03:21 AM

45. Weren't Reagan voters basically the first hyperconsumerist generation?

And that kind of lessens the hate for me, seeing as they grew up with a television, and Madison Avenue, using Edward Bernays propaganda model, would be more inclined to vote in dime store John Wayne, and not really think about the potential drawbacks to doing so, since they'd been groomed to listen to marketing from childhood. Of course there were the Dominionists, Prosperity Gospelists, racists and other kooks, but he did get a high number of union members and Democrats who saw him as a pleasant grandpa version of the Gipper.

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Response to Comatose Sphagetti (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 08:51 PM

9. Yes, it is. Truth to what you have said. nt

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Response to Comatose Sphagetti (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 08:56 PM

12. Yes.

It is different in this case. They have truly put us all in danger due to their hatred and stupidity.

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Response to Comatose Sphagetti (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 08:57 PM

14. Add Nixon and it makes four for me.

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Response to Comatose Sphagetti (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 09:00 PM

16. I don't despise him as much as I despise the people who voted for him

and the people who allowed Russia to put him in place.

The voters are idiots and assholes. We told them all of this would happen but they didn't care to hear.

The people like McTurtle and Ryan who knew better and sold out America for a few $$$ should rot in federal prison.

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #16)

Thu May 25, 2017, 03:22 AM

46. So much for the tolerant left...

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Response to Comatose Sphagetti (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 09:00 PM

17. Those are my three too!

I was too young to really understand Nixon. I was 10 when he resigned (I'm 53).

And yes. I know what you mean. I have a really hard time even talking to anybody who voted for this fool.

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Response to Comatose Sphagetti (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 09:05 PM

18. Not all of the people but yes, this is the first time

that I have despised the core base of the people supporting a President. These people are the vile racist xenophobic members of our society.

Many of the people who voted for Trump though were just ignorant. Some of them already have buyers remorse and it will get much worse.

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Response to Comatose Sphagetti (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 09:09 PM

19. A neighbor

had multiple Trump signs on his lawn during the campaign. He kept them up until last month and now they are all gone. Never have talked to him, but looking forward to running into him some day.

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Response to Comatose Sphagetti (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 09:12 PM

20. No. I hated the Reagan voters and the Bush 2 voters too.

Reagan voters the most, until now. I think I need to add Nixon as well. I didn't like him at all, but I didn't hate him. I loathed Reagan, and in the end, hated Bush and his people.

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Response to Comatose Sphagetti (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 09:35 PM

26. I was too young to understand politics under Reagan but I hated baby bush first.

 

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Response to Comatose Sphagetti (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 09:41 PM

28. I hated Bush supporters. They were pretty much as ignorant as Trump's but not as bold. nt

 

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Response to Comatose Sphagetti (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 09:48 PM

30. I despised those who voted for GW in 2004

IMO exploiting the grief and patriotism of 9/11 to launch a costly war in Iraq based on lies was the most egregious betrayal of public trust by a president in our nation's history.

Given the chance, tRump will do worse.

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Response to Comatose Sphagetti (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2017, 12:20 AM

34. I think my top is Reagan

because he paved the way for Fox News by fast tracking Murdock's citizenship and that is what is really destroying this country.

Trump is tied with Reagan. I have two friends who voted for Trump and it is hard for me to despise them but I don't really interact with them anymore and I wouldn't really care if I never saw them again (I just can't bring myself to unfriend them on FB although I have their feeds hidden).

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Response to Comatose Sphagetti (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2017, 12:22 AM

35. I've despised six presidents in my life.

 

Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush I, Bush II, and now, more than any president in my lifetime, Trump.

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Response to Comatose Sphagetti (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2017, 12:31 AM

36. I start with Nixon...then Reagan, Dubya, Twitler...

...not a fan of Poppy Bush either, but since he's so old and feeble, I don't think too much about him.

Is he still jumping out of airplanes?

Also, Dubya misAdmin should be Cheney/Dubya in levels of despicableness (is that a word?).

If I had to dig any of em up, living or dead, to be the Least Despised Despised Preznit again, I'd havta go with Tricky Dick Nixon!


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Response to Comatose Sphagetti (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2017, 12:38 AM

37. I'm 4 with Nixon added as a bonus for being older.

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Response to Comatose Sphagetti (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2017, 12:46 AM

38. Reagan has always been the worst to me

as he is the one who started this stupid obsessive hating of and wanting to decimate the federal government (all the while those states who hate it the most are sucking in the most funds from the feds). Remember his wanting to make the federal government the size of a postage stamp! Now, anytime the Repugs want to get their minions to support screwing the poor, minorities, women, etc. and give huge tax breaks to corporations so they can cut social programs, all they have to do is couch it in terms of a "gubbermint" program or what "the gubbermint" wants and the lemmings will scream about how bad whatever program it is. Whenever he would be on TV with his fake sincere actor voice, I would mute it.

Superiority of the wealthy and white superiority also came back in fashion under Reagan.

What really gets me is how the RWNJs idolize Reagan, especially for being so tough on the Communists/Russia (puffing their chests out and getting tears in their eyes when they see a clip of "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down that wall", yet show their absolute hypocrisy by completely looking the other way when the Russians put their own pawn in the White House!!!

About a week after tRump's inauguration, I thought to myself "am I going to wear out this mute button" since I had used it so much in just the first week of this miserable administration!

Of course, this new guy sets a whole new standard of low.

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Response to Comatose Sphagetti (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2017, 02:58 AM

40. Those three are pretty bad, but McKinley and Buchanan really grind my gears, so to speak.

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Response to Comatose Sphagetti (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2017, 03:14 AM

44. Add Nixon to that list

This is very different. It's a matter of the whole democracy. Yes I despise these wacko fascists for what they've done. I think it's a turning point to realize the pure evil that caused this and that those people will never change. Nixon voters were just as bad in many ways- some are also drumof voters.

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