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Mon May 22, 2017, 07:03 PM

MSNBC Hits Ratings Milestone, Fox News Drops to 3rd Place for First Time in 17 Years

MSNBC Hits Ratings Milestone, Fox News Drops to 3rd Place for First Time in 17 Years
4 prime time MSNBC programs were Number 1 for the week in total viewers in their respective time periods: “The Rachel Maddow Show,” “Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell”, “The 11th Hour” and the midnight re-air of “The Rachel Maddow Show.”
~~~~~> Maddow had the top ranked non-sports program in all of cable for the week. On CNN, “Anderson Cooper 360” ranked number one in in the demo for 5 straight days at 8 p.m. This ties for the longest winning streak on record for the show in that timeslot.

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MSNBC’s record week comes as repeated scandals have plagued Donald Trump’s administration. First came the report last Tuesday that now former FBI Director James Comey had written in a memo that Trump personally asked him to drop the investigation into possible collusion between Trump’s presidential campaign and Russia. That report was followed closely by another claiming Trump gave away classified information to Russian diplomats during a meeting in the Oval Office. Finally, on Wednesday, the Department of Justice announced that they would appoint former FBI director Robert Mueller as special counsel in charge of the Trump-Russia investigation.

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/msnbc-fox-news-ratings-cable-news-cnn-1202440320/


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Reply MSNBC Hits Ratings Milestone, Fox News Drops to 3rd Place for First Time in 17 Years (Original post)
trueblue2007 May 2017 OP
smirkymonkey May 2017 #1
trueblue2007 May 2017 #20
trueblue2007 May 2017 #27
lamp_shade May 2017 #2
malaise May 2017 #3
trueblue2007 May 2017 #5
BigmanPigman May 2017 #10
left-of-center2012 May 2017 #4
renate May 2017 #6
Tarheel_Dem May 2017 #7
kentuck May 2017 #8
mark fromelko May 2017 #9
LittleGirl May 2017 #14
mark fromelko May 2017 #22
calimary May 2017 #21
mark fromelko May 2017 #23
calimary May 2017 #28
Honeycombe8 May 2017 #11
StevieM May 2017 #16
Madam45for2923 May 2017 #12
LiberalLovinLug May 2017 #13
Ilsa May 2017 #15
ProudProgressiveNow May 2017 #17
yuiyoshida May 2017 #18
Buckeye_Democrat May 2017 #19
oasis May 2017 #24
Cha May 2017 #25
Laffy Kat May 2017 #26

Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 07:13 PM

1. K&R

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #1)

Mon May 22, 2017, 10:04 PM

20. R A C H E L . MADDOW !!!! you go girl.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Reply #20)

Tue May 23, 2017, 12:25 AM

27. RACHEL is on Stephen Colbert tonight !!!

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 07:22 PM

2. Yesssssssss K&R

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 07:24 PM

3. Leave Lawrence where he is

The Con is a LIAR

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Response to malaise (Reply #3)

Mon May 22, 2017, 07:29 PM

5. the hope is for MSNBC not to cancel his program. to RENEW his contract.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Reply #5)

Mon May 22, 2017, 08:26 PM

10. Don't just hope. Write, call and sign the petition (and go to the march if you can).

It is time to get active!

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 07:29 PM

4. How are the Fox retreads doing on MSNBC?

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 07:30 PM

6. looks like a good time to mess with a successful formula

... if you're an idiot.

Honestly, for his own reputation's sake Lack should just leave Lawrence where he is. He'll look like a fool if he lets Lawrence go and ratings go down, but even if for some reason ratings go down if he renews Lawrence's contract nobody would blame him, in view of these numbers.

This situation reminds me of overhearing my hairdresser talk to the woman next to her, saying that a customer had gotten mad at her for charging so much when she hadn't cut much hair off. It's easy to cut a lot of hair off; it's hard to know where and how much to cut and what to leave alone.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 07:54 PM

7. I'm willing to bet that when Drumph came up with the MAGA slogan, he didn't have MSNBC....

the NYT, and the WaPo in mind, but he's truly made them all "Great Again".

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 07:56 PM

8. Is it just a coincidence?

That the farther FOX sinks in the polls, the more the truth appears on the horizon?

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 08:17 PM

9. Fox News needs to Drop off the Map

 

And into Hell where it belongs. Luckily, Roger Ailes will be there to greet it!

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Response to mark fromelko (Reply #9)

Mon May 22, 2017, 09:00 PM

14. Welcome to DU

and EXACTLY!

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Response to LittleGirl (Reply #14)

Mon May 22, 2017, 11:39 PM

22. Thank You

 

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Response to mark fromelko (Reply #9)

Mon May 22, 2017, 10:58 PM

21. Welcome to DU, mark fromelko!

Awfully nice to see Pox Noise sinking.

Meantime, we need to keep the (so far still) Good Ship MSNBC intact:

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Response to calimary (Reply #21)

Mon May 22, 2017, 11:42 PM

23. Thank you for the Welcome

 

Remember Phil Donahue in early '03? Highest-rated show on MSNBC. Nixed by neocons!

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Response to mark fromelko (Reply #23)

Tue May 23, 2017, 10:16 AM

28. Yeah. I do remember that.

Astoundingly (at least to me), my reagan-loving tax-hating Republican dad watched Donahue EVERY day. Never missed his show. From way back BEFORE there even was an MSNBC. Back in the late 60s and 70s. He had a syndicated show based out of Chicago.

That's one thing I will always hold against Oprah Winfrey. Yes, I know that's sacrilege to some. And YES she's done much good, since.

But she came on the talk show scene in Chicago and went after him, because up till then he'd been the only game in town (and the nation, too, for that matter). Her show copied the same format that HE had pioneered - the roving host wandering around IN the audience sharing the hand-held mic with whoever wanted to stand up and comment or ask a question. Donahue was widely respected and well-established and she knew she had to get noticed if she was to knock him off the top. So, to make a splash and get a lot of attention, she went straight for the salacious. "Lesbian nuns!" and "I ran off with my father's illicit love child!" and "Abandoned. Beaten and raped. But she's having his baby!" and so forth. NO JOKE! Hell, I still remember the promo spots for the "Lesbian nuns!" episode. With the salacious-sounding woman's voice doing the voice-over. I'd be driving somewhere and that spot would come on the radio in high rotation.

She was, as we all know, wildly successful. It wasn't just her wildly appealing personality (that still serves, pleases, and genuinely inspires). It was her programming strategy. Go for the wildly salacious. Push the boundaries. Push the envelope. Go lower and grittier. If Phil went low, she went lower. If Phil went into the bedroom, she found the bedroom with the leather straps and handcuffs. She was the mother of Geraldo Rivera, Morton Downey Junior, Maury Povich, Jerry Springer, and all the rest of those scraping-the-bottom-of-the-barrel junk talk shows where fists would literally start flying and chairs would be thrown and all the folks you'd see in those websites of Walmart shoppers dressed in their "wife-beater" t-shirts or with their thong underwear or butt cracks showing, were transformed from commoners (and usually white trash commoners at that) to TV celebrity status. Lowest common denominator stuff.

What happened after that was - Phil Donahue's ratings started dropping. Everybody wanted to watch the freak show instead of the quiet, thought-provoking hour-long interview with some intelligent author or researcher or thinker-of-our-times. Now you needed the salaciousness. And so he started dumbing down his show, too - to compete. And the low point came on the day he did his entire show wearing a dress. I can still remember the media coverage of it. It was along the lines of - "what Donahue has to stoop to doing now, to try to get ratings (because Oprah's sleaze and gutter topics and goons on parade were beating the hell outta him). And he finally got canceled.

But the REAL damage had been done. Civil discourse on television was so yesterday. Now you wanted flash and trash. The trashier the better! You wanted to see fights break out on the set and see Geraldo get his nose broken - because Geraldo realized that, to compete with Oprah, he had to go even lower and even sleazier. So did Maury and all the wannabes who came after him. Hell, Jerry Springer was the mayor of Cincinatti and an anchorman and super respectable at one time! I had a friend who lived in Cincinatti and attested to how terrific and even noble he was as a public servant. She confessed to being shocked out of her socks when she saw him doing his low-life shit-show thing on TV. She was stunned by how far he'd fallen and how low he now stooped for the sake of attention and ratings. Suddenly the airwaves were filled with this sleazy tabloid shit. Because it got ratings.

Eventually, of course, Phil Donahue was recruited on a fledgling MSNBC because he had a marquee name, and his show went well - because he went back to intelligent discourse with intelligent uplifting people. And it got ratings there. Until he was fired.

Eventually, of course, Oprah Winfrey saw the light and started using her show as a vehicle to lift people up, rather than merely titillate them for the sake of sheer empty bottom-scraping titillation. Which was a real relief. And in many ways, her show became a serious and wonderful and much-needed public service once she decided it was time to pull the whole works out of the frickin' gutter.

But it was too late.

The damage had been done.

And the bar kept getting set lower and lower until you needed a shovel to dig a pit before you could even set the bar. Now that I think of it, seems to me that's where and how reality TV got started, with the wall-to-wall sleaze and lowest-common-denominator crap for which it's now famous. Oprah even midwifed things like the Kardashians and the losers on "Jersey Shore" and other cheap tabloid jerks. She paved the way for all that. She WAS the climate change. She finally got religion and used that fabulous billion-dollar pulpit and all that power and clout she'd earned - for the greater good. But she got there by swimming through shit. And nobody else who jumped into the shit-pool to get a piece of all that ever got religion and climbed out, hoping to pull others out too. They stayed in the shit and did everything they could to spread it wider and deeper and thicker. Which is where we are now.

That's how a Donald Trump could rise and thrive, too, come to think of it.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 08:42 PM

11. You're kidding. That's amazing! That means some Foxers have moved over. Hehehehe. nt

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #11)

Mon May 22, 2017, 09:15 PM

16. Or maybe the cannot stand to watch the news with Trump being exposed for the criminal

that he is on a daily basis.

They think that they are "the real Americans" but it turns out that the guy they love has engaged in heinous behavior along with a great adversary of our nation.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 08:43 PM

12. Good to know that people's stomach for so much BS has gone down!

 

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 08:45 PM

13. Meanwhile Lack is trying to strip MSNBC of everything that makes it popular

And turn it into a pablum pushing info-tainment network

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 09:11 PM

15. What people are seeing doesn't jive with what Fux news is telling them. nt

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 09:31 PM

17. K&R nt

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 09:46 PM

18. I would love to see FOX NEWS die....

a slow agonizing death.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 09:48 PM

19. Did the Trump-supporting lies finally push some the FOX viewers away?!

If so... hallelujah! It restores some of my previous faith in Americans.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 11:45 PM

24. We plan to keep them there.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Tue May 23, 2017, 12:16 AM

25. Lawrence O'Donnell!

Mahlao, trueblue!

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Tue May 23, 2017, 12:19 AM

26. Damn, though.

Does that mean MSNBC will continue verging right?

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