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Sun May 21, 2017, 01:24 PM

Trump should ask his hosts about real witch hunts: Saudi Arabia's War on Witchcraft

A special unit of the religious police pursues magical crime aggressively, and the convicted face death sentences.

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The woman -- still unclothed -- managed to slip out of the window of her apartment and flee. According to the 2006 account of the Saudi Okaz newspaper, which has been described as the Arabic equivalent of the New York Post, she "flew like a bird." A frantic pursuit ensued. The unit found their suspect after she had fallen through the unsturdy roof of an adjacent house and onto the ground next to a bed of dozing children.

They covered her body, arrested her, and claimed to uncover key evidence indicating that witchcraft had indeed been practiced, including incense, talismans, and videos about magic. In the Al Arabiya report, a senior Islamic cleric lamented that the incident had occurred in a city of such sacred history. The prophet Muhammad is buried there, and it is considered the second most holy location in Islam, second to Mecca. The cleric didn't doubt the details of the incident. "Some magicians may ride a broom and fly in the air with the help of the jinn (supernatural beings)," he said.

The fate of this sorceress is not readily apparent, but her plight is common. Judging from the punishments of others accused of practicing witchcraft in Saudi Arabia before and since, the consequences were almost certainly severe.

In 2007, Egyptian pharmacist Mustafa Ibrahim was beheaded in Riyadh after his conviction on charges of "practicing magic and sorcery as well as adultery and desecration of the Holy Quran." The charges of "magic and sorcery" are not euphemisms for some other kind of egregious crime he committed; they alone were enough to qualify him for a death sentence. He first came to the attention of the religious authorities when members of a mosque in the northern town of Arar voiced concerns over the placement of the holy book in the restroom. After being accused of disrupting a man's marriage through spellwork, and the discovery of "books on black magic, a candle with an incantation 'to summon devils,' and 'foul-smelling herbs,'" the case -- and eventually his life -- were swallowed by the black hole of the discretionary Saudi court system.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/08/saudi-arabias-war-on-witchcraft/278701/


Saudi woman executed for 'witchcraft and sorcery' Dec 2011
Saudi man executed for 'witchcraft and sorcery' June 2012

These are just the kind of people you want to sell $100bn of hi-tech arms to. All you can hope for is that they're so fucking backward, they won't be able to work out how to use them.

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Sun May 21, 2017, 01:34 PM

1. Falling through a roof seems to prove she didn't manage to fly.

How desperate she must have been to try to escape in that condition.

100 bn arms sale and 100 million kickback to Ivanka. There's no repression those grifters won't tolerate for the money.

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Sun May 21, 2017, 01:49 PM

2. just because people have some screwy beliefs doesn't mean they aren't educated about science

We have some pretty screwy people right here in the USA wanted to burn Harry Potter books. Right wingers said for years Bill Clinton was the Anti Christ. Then they said President Obama was the 'dark horse' mentioned in Revelations that would usher in the
Apocalypse. They now say Trump is led by God to save this nation. We have groups of people wanting to kill minorities, Jews, Muslims, and anyone that isn't heterosexual. These nuts do things in the name of their religion all the damn time they just do not stamp their religion in front of their name like they do to Muslims.
I think living in ANY theocracy would SUCK big time. This is why I want the right wing out. No nation should be governed by ANY religion. Do you know that my step mothers father who was a Southern Baptist thought Catholics had horns under their hair? Yeah he though they had horn nubs under their hair because he was taught they 'preached for the devil." We got all kinds of nutty religious shit right here in our own yard. I don't think we have earned the right to feel too superior when we now have gays afraid for their lives, blacks and latinos afraid for their lives, and Muslims and Jews afraid for their lives.

I don't get to vote in Saudi Arabia . I can't do a damn thing about them living in a theocracy. I live here and we have plenty to worry about right here. The right wing supports all the nuts in America & it has got to go.

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