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Fri May 19, 2017, 02:06 PM

Global seed vault flooded as Arctic permafrost melts

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/may/19/arctic-stronghold-of-worlds-seeds-flooded-after-permafrost-melts
"It was designed as an impregnable deep-freeze to protect the world’s most precious seeds from any global disaster and ensure humanity’s food supply forever. But the Global Seed Vault, buried in a mountain deep inside the Arctic circle, has been breached after global warming produced extraordinary temperatures over the winter, sending meltwater gushing into the entrance tunnel.

The vault is on the Norwegian island of Spitsbergen and contains almost a million packets of seeds, each a variety of an important food crop. When it was opened in 2008, the deep permafrost through which the vault was sunk was expected to provide “failsafe” protection against “the challenge of natural or man-made disasters”.

But soaring temperatures in the Arctic at the end of the world’s hottest ever recorded year led to melting and heavy rain, when light snow should have been falling. “It was not in our plans to think that the permafrost would not be there and that it would experience extreme weather like that,” said Hege Njaa Aschim, from the Norwegian government, which owns the vault.

“A lot of water went into the start of the tunnel and then it froze to ice, so it was like a glacier when you went in,” she told the Guardian. Fortunately, the meltwater did not reach the vault itself, the ice has been hacked out, and the precious seeds remain safe for now at the required storage temperature of -18C.

But the breach has questioned the ability of the vault to survive as a lifeline for humanity if catastrophe strikes. “It was supposed to without the help of humans, but now we are watching the seed vault 24 hours a day,” Aschim said. “We must see what we can do to minimise all the risks and make sure the seed bank can take care of itself.” .......(more)

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Reply Global seed vault flooded as Arctic permafrost melts (Original post)
Tanuki May 19 OP
eShirl May 19 #1
smirkymonkey May 19 #7
paleotn May 19 #14
hatrack May 19 #2
mountain grammy May 19 #12
hatrack May 19 #16
dchill May 19 #19
marylandblue May 19 #3
hunter May 19 #20
Doodley May 19 #4
Sophiegirl May 19 #5
Hortensis May 19 #6
BlancheSplanchnik May 19 #8
Tom Rinaldo May 19 #9
paleotn May 19 #15
Shandris May 19 #10
keithbvadu2 May 19 #11
LittleGirl May 19 #13
AtheistCrusader May 19 #18
AtheistCrusader May 19 #17
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demmiblue May 20 #21
Warren DeMontague May 20 #22

Response to Tanuki (Original post)

Fri May 19, 2017, 02:08 PM

1. I can't help but think that problem should have been forseen. n/t

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Response to eShirl (Reply #1)

Fri May 19, 2017, 03:00 PM

7. Seriously, do you mean to tell me that if nuclear weapons had been dropped into the area

they would have not melted the permafrost either? I'm not a scientist, but I would think they could generate enough heat to make that a possibility.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #7)

Fri May 19, 2017, 04:21 PM

14. Sure, but

why would anyone want to? There's nothing there but some small villages, a little high end tourist crap, the seed vault and the rest is ice, rock and polar bears.

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Response to Tanuki (Original post)

Fri May 19, 2017, 02:09 PM

2. It's almost as if someone were sending a message - a message regarding inability to effectively pla



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Response to hatrack (Reply #2)

Fri May 19, 2017, 03:55 PM

12. That picture! Hysterical

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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #12)

Fri May 19, 2017, 04:22 PM

16. Idiocracy - more than 10 years old, and more timely than ever . .

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Response to hatrack (Reply #2)

Fri May 19, 2017, 04:54 PM

19. +1000!

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Response to Tanuki (Original post)

Fri May 19, 2017, 02:23 PM

3. Superman's Fortress of Solitude is next nt

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Response to marylandblue (Reply #3)

Fri May 19, 2017, 05:10 PM

20. Santa Claus has been there, done that, and relocated to a factory in China.

Unfortunately rising seas are threatening that too.

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Response to Tanuki (Original post)

Fri May 19, 2017, 02:31 PM

4. I hope they used Tupperware

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Response to Doodley (Reply #4)

Fri May 19, 2017, 02:59 PM

5. Ok

That was funny.

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Response to Tanuki (Original post)

Fri May 19, 2017, 03:00 PM

6. Thank goodness it didn't reach the seed.

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Response to Tanuki (Original post)

Fri May 19, 2017, 03:30 PM

8. OMG, the title scared me...I thought the seeds had been lost!

Oh I'm relieved, but concerned about how they'll be able to keep them safe.

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Response to Tanuki (Original post)

Fri May 19, 2017, 03:36 PM

9. Now this is the ultimate metaphor, isn't it?

Very scary. It wasn't even safe for a decade let alone a century or more.

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Response to Tom Rinaldo (Reply #9)

Fri May 19, 2017, 04:22 PM

15. Yep.

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Response to Tanuki (Original post)

Fri May 19, 2017, 03:37 PM

10. YOU HAD ONE JOB... n/t

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Response to Tanuki (Original post)

Fri May 19, 2017, 03:43 PM

11. And the Titanic would not sink.

Mother nature plays rough and dirty.

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Response to Tanuki (Original post)

Fri May 19, 2017, 04:00 PM

13. That title is misleading

Seeds unharmed. ugh. Thankfully.

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Response to LittleGirl (Reply #13)

Fri May 19, 2017, 04:35 PM

18. That's what headlines are for.

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Response to Tanuki (Original post)

Fri May 19, 2017, 04:35 PM

17. One speculates idly about the carbon footprint of constructing such a structure in that

remote of a location...

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Response to Tanuki (Original post)

Sat May 20, 2017, 07:18 PM

21. .

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Response to Tanuki (Original post)

Sat May 20, 2017, 07:32 PM

22. You mean they didn't plan for that?

What the fuck kind of global seed vault are you?

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