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Omaha Steve

(99,573 posts)
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 07:20 PM Jul 2012

Barfknecht: Does Penn State belong in Big Ten? (Jerry Sandusky child sexual-abuse scandal)


http://www.omaha.com/article/20120703/SPORTS/707039883/1707#barfknecht-does-penn-state-belong-in-big-ten

Published Wednesday, July 4, 2012 at 12:00 am / Updated at 6:02 pm

IN MY OPINION
By Lee Barfknecht
WORLD-HERALD STAFF WRITER

The criminal work is done in the Jerry Sandusky child sexual-abuse scandal at Penn State. Guilty on 45 of 48 counts, with sentencing to follow that should put the 68-year-old away for life.

Civil lawsuits will follow. The school knows it could be on the hook for payouts that rival a small country’s national debt.

And now that a CNN investigation has revealed emails detailing evidence of a cover-up at the highest levels — implicating coaching idol Joe Paterno and PSU President Graham Spanier — the cry is out for the NCAA to examine the Nittany Lions for penalties.

Snip: In other words, for at least 74 percent of the time that Penn State has been in the Big Ten Conference, four of the most powerful figures on campus allegedly chose to focus on protecting their institution and positions of authority at the expense of children already abused — with more victims to come because of their inaction.

FULL story at link.

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Barfknecht: Does Penn State belong in Big Ten? (Jerry Sandusky child sexual-abuse scandal) (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jul 2012 OP
To be perfectly honest, I don't care. Sports fans have weird loyalties. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #1
And what about the guy that knew about the abuse for 25 years? gregoire Jul 2012 #2
He did break the law that required him to report to the police Omaha Steve Jul 2012 #6
Thank you for that, Matt Sandusky is a criminal gregoire Jul 2012 #7
Yah, kick em outta the Big Ten so the Big Ten can be the Big Ten again. a kennedy Jul 2012 #3
I'm not quite sure what a big ten is... gregoire Jul 2012 #4
ha ha ha..... a kennedy Jul 2012 #5
We gotta get rid of Nebraska so that we can be the BIG TEN again. And Jim Tressel got fired madinmaryland Jul 2012 #9
The cornhuskers and penn state "get out of the big 10 ! russspeakeasy Jul 2012 #10
YES! Neither "belong" elfin Jul 2012 #13
College football isn't on a decline. ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2012 #20
Good idea. ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2012 #11
NU came to Big Ten for the money not with the money IADEMO2004 Jul 2012 #12
The BIG 10 did it for the conference football championship that requires 12 teams (4 the $) Omaha Steve Jul 2012 #15
It's all about the money. Protect the money is job #1 IADEMO2004 Jul 2012 #17
It is always about the money.... russspeakeasy Jul 2012 #18
Uh huh. ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2012 #19
Penn State needs a time out... Junkdrawer Jul 2012 #8
They should all join the conference that University of Chicago is in. FarCenter Jul 2012 #14
NO, PSU shouldn't be in the Big 10. spartan61 Jul 2012 #16
 

gregoire

(192 posts)
2. And what about the guy that knew about the abuse for 25 years?
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 07:33 PM
Jul 2012

He admitted to it in public that he knew Sandusky was doing it and that it was continuing. He did nothing to stop it and waited until Sandusky was convicted before talking in public. He could have stopped this abuse 25 years ago, but instead decided not to. He doomed a dozen+ children to this fate. Of course I'm talking about Matt Sandusky.

Omaha Steve

(99,573 posts)
6. He did break the law that required him to report to the police
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 07:38 PM
Jul 2012

Could he also be charged as an accessory to the crime?

http://www.criminal-law-lawyer-source.com/terms/accessory.html

An accessory to a crime is any individual who knowingly and voluntarily participates in the commission of a crime. An accessory is not typically present at the scene of the crime, but contributes to the success of the crime before or after the fact. A person charged as an accessory to a crime before the fact is one who incites, abets, or aids a person in the commission of a criminal act. An individual who is an accessory after the fact receives, shelters, comforts, relieves, or assists a felon after the crime has been committed. A person can be an accessory if they provide any support or assistance, whether financially, emotionally, or factually.

By law, an accessory can be held as liable as the principle actor who carries out the criminal act. If a person is an accessory to a felony crime, they too can be charged with committing a felony offense and subject to penalties accordingly. However, there may be different penalties for being an accessory versus a principle actor in a crime. Federal law states that a person who is convicted of an accessory crime shall be subject to a penalty that does not exceed half of the maximum incarceration or fine for the principle act of the crime. If the principle crime is punishable by death, the accessory to the crime will not be imprisoned for more than fifteen years. These provisions are subject to exceptions as made by the federal government. State accessory laws may be similar to federal laws.

Accessory crimes and punishments are subject to the laws applicable to state or federal laws depending on the criminal offense. Some states accessory laws echo common law definitions of an accessory crime. Common law considers an accessory as guilty as the principle player(s) in a crime. Many states today, however, make a distinction between the severity of an accessory crime after the fact and the principle criminal act.

An accessory after the fact is an individual who knowingly shelters or aids a criminal after they commit a crime. The accessory does so in order to help the felon evade arrest or criminal prosecution. In some states the crime of being an accessory after the fact is considered less severe than the actual crime that was committed. Even in states with this distinction, an accessory can still be held just as liable for the criminal act as the perpetrator. Some states have provisions which do not consider a criminal's spouse an accessory after the fact if they receive or comfort their spouse after a criminal act.

More at link.

 

gregoire

(192 posts)
7. Thank you for that, Matt Sandusky is a criminal
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 07:42 PM
Jul 2012

He deserves time in prison. He knew first-hand that this was happening, and he went out of his way to keep from stopping it.

a kennedy

(29,644 posts)
3. Yah, kick em outta the Big Ten so the Big Ten can be the Big Ten again.
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 07:33 PM
Jul 2012
I think it's now the Big 10/12 isn't it?? http://www.bigten.org/ and I count 12 schools. Now, who else can we kick off the list.
 

gregoire

(192 posts)
4. I'm not quite sure what a big ten is...
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 07:35 PM
Jul 2012

but it sounds like something that conservative Sandusky would like.

a kennedy

(29,644 posts)
5. ha ha ha.....
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 07:37 PM
Jul 2012

It's the college conference that mostly has midwest schools in it...... or am I missing your point.

madinmaryland

(64,931 posts)
9. We gotta get rid of Nebraska so that we can be the BIG TEN again. And Jim Tressel got fired
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 08:13 PM
Jul 2012

for helping his guys get free tattoos.



elfin

(6,262 posts)
13. YES! Neither "belong"
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 09:00 PM
Jul 2012

The big ten began its ruin with letting in PS, notwithstanding the Sandusky Shame. Now Neb. Has split the schedule into two entities. The Rose Bowl lost its original meaning a few years ago.

This whole nat'l championship bowl playoff system is horrible and speeding the doom of real college football. On the skids already - just pay them already as semi-pros and quit the flimsy facade that they are academics.

However much I disliked JoePa, even before Sandusky, I do really like Brady Hoke and hope he has some influence in turning things around.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
20. College football isn't on a decline.
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 12:27 AM
Jul 2012

And the ratings prove that. NCAA basketball and Baseball both have a playoff and they're doing fine, its what most people want.


Stop being over dramatic.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
11. Good idea.
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 08:23 PM
Jul 2012

Get rid of the college football powerhouse that just drastically raised the value of your conference.

Omaha Steve

(99,573 posts)
15. The BIG 10 did it for the conference football championship that requires 12 teams (4 the $)
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 09:27 PM
Jul 2012

Each school voted yes to add NU for the money.

This was about child abuse.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
8. Penn State needs a time out...
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 07:43 PM
Jul 2012

Football needs to be put in prospective and a season or two of no football would do that university a world of good.

spartan61

(2,091 posts)
16. NO, PSU shouldn't be in the Big 10.
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 09:48 PM
Jul 2012

I said this when they became # 11 and now with Nebraska, there are 12 schools in the Big "Ten." I liked it so much better when there were 10 schools. Of course, being an alumni of one of the 10 schools, I am a wee bit biased.

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