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Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
Thu May 4, 2017, 06:48 AM May 2017

47 years ago today; Four dead in Ohio...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings



The Kent State shootings (also known as the May 4 massacre or the Kent State massacre) were the shootings of unarmed college students protesting the Vietnam War at Kent State University in Kent, Ohio, by members of the Ohio National Guard on May 4, 1970.

Twenty-nine guardsmen fired approximately 67 rounds over a period of 13 seconds, killing four students and wounding nine others, one of whom suffered permanent paralysis.

Some of the students who were shot had been protesting the Cambodian Campaign, which President Richard Nixon announced during a television address on April 30. Other students who were shot had been walking nearby or observing the protest from a distance.

There was a significant national response to the shootings: hundreds of universities, colleges, and high schools closed throughout the United States due to a student strike of 4 million students,[10] and the event further affected public opinion, at an already socially contentious time, over the role of the United States in the Vietnam War.

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NEVER forget!!!
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47 years ago today; Four dead in Ohio... (Original Post) Cooley Hurd May 2017 OP
I'll never forget madokie May 2017 #1
... Lochloosa May 2017 #2
Four dead in O-hi-oh. . Kittycow May 2017 #14
That attack on students changed my life malaise May 2017 #3
Murderers HoneyBadger May 2017 #4
I will always remember that day. lark May 2017 #5
There has NEVER been justice for the victims. lastlib May 2017 #6
I Worked With A Guy Who Was There ProfessorGAC May 2017 #7
We will not forget or forgive. Allison Krause was from a livetohike May 2017 #8
Unforgettable day. mountain grammy May 2017 #9
"really bad or catastrophic" saidsimplesimon May 2017 #10
I will never forget this tragedy. gademocrat7 May 2017 #11
More killed at Jackson State University, that same week. raging moderate May 2017 #12
Yes, I make a point of adding that at this time of year. malthaussen May 2017 #19
Never forget. And never forgive this weasel Terry Norman... FailureToCommunicate May 2017 #13
Geez. ..weasel is right! What a dick. Kittycow May 2017 #16
State sponsored murder elmac May 2017 #15
Thank you for the pictures. Kittycow May 2017 #17
Your wecome elmac May 2017 #18
That's how I remember it too. Kittycow May 2017 #22
K&R JohnnyRingo May 2017 #20
whenever i'm told the military protects my 'freedoms', i bringthis this up. KG May 2017 #21
This is what the GOP wants for today's protesters. smirkymonkey May 2017 #23
NEVER forget!!! Rustyeye77 May 2017 #24

madokie

(51,076 posts)
1. I'll never forget
Thu May 4, 2017, 06:54 AM
May 2017

I was approaching my 1 year anniversary of arriving in Vietnam when this happened. It took me all of a few days maybe a week to ten days to realize what we were doing there was as wrong as wrong can be. This pretty much cemented in my mind that when I got back to the states I would be joining the anti-war crusade and work to end the war.

Kittycow

(2,396 posts)
14. Four dead in O-hi-oh. .
Thu May 4, 2017, 09:12 AM
May 2017

That's what always comes to my mind. I was seventeen at the time. I, too, will never forget.

lark

(23,823 posts)
5. I will always remember that day.
Thu May 4, 2017, 08:34 AM
May 2017

I will always remember the CSNY song "Ohio". That's what runs through my mind, the pictures and the music, and it's just so sad and outrageous.

lastlib

(24,495 posts)
6. There has NEVER been justice for the victims.
Thu May 4, 2017, 08:42 AM
May 2017

The killers have never been punished, nor have their bosses.

Instead we have gotten more Nixon, more Southern strategy, more unjustified war, Reagan, right-wing bigotry and greed, corporate seizure of power, etc. Kent State was the first clue I had that the overlords would do ANYTHING, even kill, to hold their power, and to keep their serfdoms. And those "four dead" were the first of many victims.

[font size=4]REMEMBER KENT STATE![/font size]

ProfessorGAC

(68,936 posts)
7. I Worked With A Guy Who Was There
Thu May 4, 2017, 08:45 AM
May 2017

A chemist i worked with back in the mid to late 70's. He was a senior at Kent, (later went to Kentucky for grad school). He did not have fond memories of that day, for obvious reasons.

livetohike

(22,743 posts)
8. We will not forget or forgive. Allison Krause was from a
Thu May 4, 2017, 08:55 AM
May 2017

town next door to my hometown. I was finishing my Junior year in high school. We were horrified. We are still horrified.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
10. "really bad or catastrophic"
Thu May 4, 2017, 08:56 AM
May 2017

The current FBI Director has indicated he, like former AG John Ashcroft, operated on a higher moral, religious ground when disclosing details of an investigation. If he is truly a man looking to unveil the truth to the American public, he should take a look at the old files on this case. The current Director's actions and words remind me of J. Edgar Hoover's stalking of protestors.

It is 50 years later and still no FBI word on who ordered the guardsmen to fire on protesters. It is a stain on the reputation of the US.

Thank you for reminding me.

raging moderate

(4,476 posts)
12. More killed at Jackson State University, that same week.
Thu May 4, 2017, 09:00 AM
May 2017

I think I remember that four students were killed at another college demonstration, that same week. This happened at Kent State AND at Jackson State, almost at the exact same time. And I think one of them was not even in the demonstration, but was a young father of a new baby on his way home from work, hit by a stray bullet.

malthaussen

(17,554 posts)
19. Yes, I make a point of adding that at this time of year.
Thu May 4, 2017, 09:23 AM
May 2017

All-in-all, I'm surprised it didn't happen more. Now, with the array of "non lethal" methods of "crowd control" available, the Man can just use industrial-sized pepper spray, rubber bullets, and chemical weapons to attack protestors. Which is good, because I think if the shooting ever did start, it would quickly spiral under current conditions.

-- Mal

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
18. Your wecome
Thu May 4, 2017, 09:23 AM
May 2017

I will never forget them. If my memory is correct most, if not all, were just making their way to or from classes when they were cut down, not even a part of the demonstration.

Kittycow

(2,396 posts)
22. That's how I remember it too.
Thu May 4, 2017, 11:33 AM
May 2017

They were just going about their business.

I often think that this could happen again these days.

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