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babylonsister

(171,054 posts)
Tue May 2, 2017, 06:58 AM May 2017

Trump drops the mother of all bombs on libraries

Trump drops the mother of all bombs on libraries
By John William Templeton, contributor - 05/01/17 12:40 PM EDT


The most lethal weapon in the Trump administration's arsenal is the attack on truth.

The proposed zero funding for libraries fits into a pattern to "uneducate" the American population. That's a comment I received on Take Action for Libraries Day from a listener on Wisconsin Public Radio.

During Virtual Library Legislative Days May 1-4, let your representatives and senators know how important libraries are to the truth.

Another listener noted that a rural library is Wisconsin has found it necessary to hold an eight-hour course on distinguishing truth. When the White House decides to make its visitor log private and muzzle federal employees, citizens need a neutral place to distinguish between fact and fiction.

Like the zero allocations for the National Endowment for the Arts, National Endowment for the Humanities, Corporation for Public Broadcasting, Trump's move to eliminate the Institute for Museum and Library Services is the antithesis of what great figures have done throughout history.


Three of the six Carnegie libraries constructed in Los Angeles remain as thriving cultural and intellectual hubs long after his steel mills were shuttered. As the Los Angeles Times has observed in its courageous editorial series, the irresponsibility of this reckless administration is generational in impact. The very amenities that we associate with the civilizations of the past are the libraries, museums, galleries and music.

Make no mistake, the attack on the agencies which promote discourse and diversity of viewpoints is part of a planned assault on such policies as financial services integrity, environmental justice, improved healthcare, education and nutrition and even the right to vote.


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Trump drops the mother of all bombs on libraries (Original Post) babylonsister May 2017 OP
The coup is clearly beginning. Kablooie May 2017 #1
It began well before July 2016 when they were already stealing the Electoral College. Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #9
For more proof Soxfan58 May 2017 #10
I can't find out about libraries, but the Congress proposal saves the NEA, NEH and CPR muriel_volestrangler May 2017 #2
To be Clear. That is Obama's Budget. Not Congress Being Courageous and Useful bitterross May 2017 #3
Since Obama was known to be stepping down, that doesn't make sense muriel_volestrangler May 2017 #17
But this was actually a continuing resolution, not a new budget... Wounded Bear May 2017 #24
How to make America less competitive in a global economy. nocalflea May 2017 #4
very true burnbaby May 2017 #13
And this is how you create an Idiocracy MrScorpio May 2017 #5
AFAIC... druidity33 May 2017 #6
Right? getting old in mke May 2017 #14
not just walking distance--close enough to carry bags of books. years ago, I used to share niyad May 2017 #30
Totally agree BlueIndyBlue May 2017 #25
agree about ILL-- it has gotten to a point where the library staff does not bother to call me-- niyad May 2017 #31
make america stupid again spanone May 2017 #7
So IMLS is protected financially through September with Ilsa May 2017 #8
republicans are out to create an Idiocracy for real Achilleaze May 2017 #11
Combine with Rep. Sensenbrenner statement "Nobody's got to use the internet" exboyfil May 2017 #12
he's afraid of books and there's suspicion he can't read kaotikross May 2017 #15
An informed and educated populace is the single most dangerous element for demagogues. Augiedog May 2017 #16
+1000 Blue_Tires May 2017 #29
K&R fleabiscuit May 2017 #18
Remember Mendocino May 2017 #19
Shall we start burning books? IronLionZion May 2017 #20
Trump's never been to library. They_Live May 2017 #21
Wait he tried to get through a page about Andy Jackson.... Historic NY May 2017 #22
Dude probably can't read IronLionZion May 2017 #23
I kind of was expecting to read about Trump dropping literal bombs on libraries some place Zing Zing Zingbah May 2017 #26
Two words: President Bannon Eyeball_Kid May 2017 #27
How much of the library budget is Federal? MichMan May 2017 #28
In education it is big sab390 May 2017 #34
This is decades old sab390 May 2017 #32
He doesn't value books the way many of us do, therefore he won't see preserving funding as necessary Lyricalinklines May 2017 #33

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
9. It began well before July 2016 when they were already stealing the Electoral College.
Tue May 2, 2017, 08:00 AM
May 2017

What you are seeing now is just Phase 2: testing, softening up, numbing, normalization.

Phase 3, if resistance is weak and doesn't persist, would be a broad Enabling Act, after some kind of incident or provocation from inside or outside of the country.

Phase 4, if resistance doesn't get very widespread and deep, would be detentions, summary justice, martial law. Think Erdogan multiplied by Duterte, aided and abetted by private armies, and jacked up to 11.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,295 posts)
2. I can't find out about libraries, but the Congress proposal saves the NEA, NEH and CPR
Tue May 2, 2017, 07:10 AM
May 2017
The new federal spending bill would spare – and even slightly increase – funding for three arts-related agencies that Trump had proposed eliminating: the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, the National Endowment for the Arts and the National Endowment for the Humanities. The 1,600-plus-page bill also would boost funding to fight the heroin and opioid epidemic, providing $3.8 billion to the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration.

https://www.abqjournal.com/996196/federal-budget-plan-includes-50-million-for-art.html
 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
3. To be Clear. That is Obama's Budget. Not Congress Being Courageous and Useful
Tue May 2, 2017, 07:33 AM
May 2017

Not courageous and useful all on their own I'd say. They really haven't dealt with a Trump budget yet. It's easy to say "Well that was Obama's and it's difficult to change at this late juncture." Wait for the next budget cycle when it's Trump's. Then we'll see who has the interest of the people in mind.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,295 posts)
17. Since Obama was known to be stepping down, that doesn't make sense
Tue May 2, 2017, 08:50 AM
May 2017

Obama would not have prepared a budget to be passed after he had stopped being president. Everyone knew there would be a new president, so it wasn't a "late juncture". They'd had 4 years to prepare something.

Wounded Bear

(58,634 posts)
24. But this was actually a continuing resolution, not a new budget...
Tue May 2, 2017, 09:41 AM
May 2017

Yes, the numbers do reflect Obama's last budget, which is in effect until Sept 30, 2017.

What Trump and the Repubs tried to do was alter Obama's last budget. The first Trump budget doesn't go into effect until Oct 1, 2017, assuming they can pass one, which is not a given.

nocalflea

(1,387 posts)
4. How to make America less competitive in a global economy.
Tue May 2, 2017, 07:39 AM
May 2017

These idiots really do hate our country.
Some of my fondest childhood memories are of trips to the library and to museums . I have yet to see a child enter a library who was not excited to be there and to explore(yeah , I know ,some kids tire, bore easily).
My local library has , like many others, become an internet provider for so many people -a truly great service .

 

burnbaby

(685 posts)
13. very true
Tue May 2, 2017, 08:17 AM
May 2017

There was a time I felt no need for libraries because we all have laptops (or so I thought) and could read and do research on anything and everything. Then I became unemployed for a bit, my laptop broke and I went to the library. I had forgotten the euphoric feeling of walking through a library and seeing all those books and the history around the library. Friendly people to help answer questions and of course the computers for public use and to quote you is it "a truly great service"

MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
5. And this is how you create an Idiocracy
Tue May 2, 2017, 07:45 AM
May 2017

Someone should inform Trump that the movie didn't mean to be a documentary.

FDT.

druidity33

(6,446 posts)
6. AFAIC...
Tue May 2, 2017, 07:46 AM
May 2017

Inter-Library Loan is the pinnacle of human civilization!

I visit my local library at LEAST twice a week...

K&R

niyad

(113,232 posts)
30. not just walking distance--close enough to carry bags of books. years ago, I used to share
Tue May 2, 2017, 02:18 PM
May 2017

books with a housebound friend, so frequently checked out 40 or 50 at a time.

it always puzzled me that the entire library staff seemed to go on break just as I showed up.. . .

BlueIndyBlue

(96 posts)
25. Totally agree
Tue May 2, 2017, 09:43 AM
May 2017

I am on a first name basis with my librarians. Luckily I can walk to my neighborhood branch which I visit at the least once a week. I borrow regular books, ebooks and even listen to books on CD on my way to work. I couldn't image life without libraries and the ensuing knowledge that comes from them. Idiocracy indeed!

K&R

niyad

(113,232 posts)
31. agree about ILL-- it has gotten to a point where the library staff does not bother to call me--
Tue May 2, 2017, 02:19 PM
May 2017

just raise a hand and point to the ILL stacks when I walk in.

Ilsa

(61,692 posts)
8. So IMLS is protected financially through September with
Tue May 2, 2017, 07:59 AM
May 2017

the continuing budget resolution, right? I'm sure Rs would love to destroy it and require Franklin's great gift of public libraries go private.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
11. republicans are out to create an Idiocracy for real
Tue May 2, 2017, 08:11 AM
May 2017

and in Comrade Casino, they have the perfect draft-and-fact dodging a-hole to lead them downward.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
12. Combine with Rep. Sensenbrenner statement "Nobody's got to use the internet"
Tue May 2, 2017, 08:15 AM
May 2017

Libraries have become a key mechanism for individuals who cannot afford home internet service (just like they have always been a key for those who cannot afford books).

These are the same people that say that you don't need to go to college since all the content is on the Internet.

kaotikross

(246 posts)
15. he's afraid of books and there's suspicion he can't read
Tue May 2, 2017, 08:45 AM
May 2017

he has staffers read him the articles about himself. he shown visible difficultly with reading in video clips. what does he care about places filled with books?

IronLionZion

(45,411 posts)
20. Shall we start burning books?
Tue May 2, 2017, 09:10 AM
May 2017

knowledge is dangerous. People need to be easy to control and manipulate.

What an asshole. People use libraries as a low cost place to study and better themselves to get good jobs. Not everyone has thousands of dollars to spend on school when the books are free at the local library. Many city schools don't have funding or space for their own library so they send kids to the public ones.

Were too many minorities reading the books?

If you don't have a library card, sign up for one now as that is used to allocate funding and decide which ones to close. I signed up for a card because of Dolt 45.

They_Live

(3,231 posts)
21. Trump's never been to library.
Tue May 2, 2017, 09:16 AM
May 2017

And I have a suspicion that he's never really read a book. Who has time for that with golf and six hours of television a day?

IronLionZion

(45,411 posts)
23. Dude probably can't read
Tue May 2, 2017, 09:39 AM
May 2017

He's been on record as not reading most of the briefings given to him, or even the bills he's signed.

Dems in congress could probably write up some bill with lots of good liberal stuff in it like single payer, full funding of libraries, and free college for low income Americans, put "Build the Border Wall" as the title, and he'll probably sign it into law.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
26. I kind of was expecting to read about Trump dropping literal bombs on libraries some place
Tue May 2, 2017, 09:48 AM
May 2017

Maybe Afghanistan, Libya, N. Korea

MichMan

(11,901 posts)
28. How much of the library budget is Federal?
Tue May 2, 2017, 12:48 PM
May 2017

Not convinced that funding local libraries is something that the Federal government should be responsible for. Shouldn't it be a state and local responsibility?

What amount of the libraries budget is being cut? 5%, 25%, 50%?

sab390

(183 posts)
34. In education it is big
Wed May 3, 2017, 03:42 PM
May 2017

In public libraries there is the LSTA which is small but important. It's not the amount, it's the idea. War gets an increase but children at the library are stiffed. If they cut defense or corporate welfare, then they can come for the library.

sab390

(183 posts)
32. This is decades old
Tue May 2, 2017, 08:26 PM
May 2017

Remember Reagan bragged he never went into the library in college. He slashed the library funding. 2008 was a horrible time. Library funding is from property tax and the housing collapse crippled it. Pay was cut in half. There was 1000 application for every job. Teaching and librarian used to be middle class jobs. Now they make 30,000. In 1980 65% were middle class. 15% of millennials are. The American dream was "your kids would do better than you"
Now it is get rich quick for yourself. This has all gone to hell.

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