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Fri Apr 28, 2017, 07:22 PM

Alabama Judge:" a white city may secede from its racially diverse school district."

She said she was protecting black students from white people's anger.
Jus' helping out and all that.


The ruling by the Birmingham U.S. District Court allows the city of Gardendale, Alabama to secede from its larger, diverse school district to create its own. Gardendale is 88% white and wealthier than most neighboring cities. Its removal from the district will drastically reduce funding to the public school system.

Judge Madeline Haikala said the secession was racially motivated, that it could hinder desegregation, and would “assail the dignity of black schoolchildren,” but still ruled in its favor.

The Judge’s weak excuse was that blocking the ruling could cause angry white parents to blame black students, and that parents should have a larger say in how their school district is set up.
http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/04/28/alabama-just-brought-back-school-segregation/

In the town that I live in, back in not too distant past, the whites with money moved to the south of town, away from the mixed race city school district. They built houses, and when they had enough people to vote, they became a separate town, while sending their kids to a private academy which is
still, technically, within our city limits.

Schools are funded from the State General fund, not property taxes, unlike many other states.


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Reply Alabama Judge:" a white city may secede from its racially diverse school district." (Original post)
dixiegrrrrl Apr 2017 OP
sarah FAILIN Apr 2017 #1
dixiegrrrrl Apr 2017 #5
sarah FAILIN Apr 2017 #6
wildeyed Apr 2017 #2
FiveGoodMen Apr 2017 #3
Generic Brad Apr 2017 #4
sarah FAILIN Apr 2017 #10
HeartachesNhangovers Apr 2017 #12
ProudLib72 Apr 2017 #7
Initech Apr 2017 #8
MrScorpio Apr 2017 #9
sarah FAILIN Apr 2017 #11

Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Fri Apr 28, 2017, 07:37 PM

1. I live just north of there.

It is common here for the cities to split off and have their own school systems separate from the county. I don't like it, but I never thought it was racial. They want to keep their taxes for themselves and then the county schools suffer

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Response to sarah FAILIN (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 28, 2017, 08:47 PM

5. Hey cuz!!1



except their taxes do not go for schools, except as part of the General Fund.
doesn't matter where you live as far as that goes, everyone in the state pays into the General Fund.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 28, 2017, 11:51 PM

6. i was actually talking about my own county/city re: the taxes

And yes. they do have their own taxes earmarked just for their schools. I'm in Cullman and they have a large portion of property tax that is just for the schools as well as a half cent of the city sales tax that only city schools get. This is on top of what they get from the state fund per student. That burns us up because we county people are shopping in Cullman and supporting their schools but not getting that tax money till we recently passed our own half cent tax which we have to share with them since they are also county residents
Cullman city has the best of everything. State of the art football field as good as some colleges, every child has laptops/ipads now I think. Brand new facility none of our county schools could ever get.. our county schools have had to be closed due to lack of money to repair buildings.

They may not have their own schools yet to pass the taxes for, but they will eventually be in the same spot we are. The city of Gardendale will be supporting the schools very well with all the business they have to tax.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Fri Apr 28, 2017, 08:22 PM

2. My kids attend a diverse school district and love it.

They take advanced courses and have stellar standardized test scores. We get all of that AND I am not commuting two+ hours a day for work and/or paying 25k (per kid) a year for private school.

This is a horrible ruling. Can't see how it stands.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Fri Apr 28, 2017, 08:26 PM

3. A white city

What is a white city?

(This was a judge talking so there should be a legal definition, right?)

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Response to FiveGoodMen (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 28, 2017, 08:33 PM

4. I know my definition

It's a place I would never live or visit or do business with.

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Response to FiveGoodMen (Reply #3)

Sat Apr 29, 2017, 07:33 AM

10. Just what it sounds like

Like the big city in my county I guess. Poorer people or anti-establishment types choose to buy land outside the city limits where it is cheaper and has less regulation. In my county, most black families settled near each other and that was not in the city itself. There are a lot more white people in my entire county than in other counties and that is probably because back in the day there was more racism. It doesn't mean the people are doing this school thing because of racisim though. They are doing it if anything out of "classism" and not wanting to share their wealth and tax base with the children of poor people, who happen to be predominantly white in this area. JMO, but the city people are selfish and want to keep their money from being spread out to all the schools because they think they can do more good with 2 schools than we can with the 20ish schools that we have spread over our county which is what we have to service the needs of the students. Selfishness, not racism.

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Response to FiveGoodMen (Reply #3)

Sat Apr 29, 2017, 11:23 AM

12. I suspect the quotes in the OP are misleading.

Although the quotes imply that the judge used these exact words, that may not be the case. I can't get behind the paywall to see.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Fri Apr 28, 2017, 11:59 PM

7. She made her ruling based on fear of retailiation?

There is someone who should not be a judge.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sat Apr 29, 2017, 01:21 AM

8. Racists suck. If they want to leave, let 'em.

And don't let the door hit your ass on the way out!

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sat Apr 29, 2017, 02:04 AM

9. Another example of why my great-grandparents fled Alabama 100 years ago

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sat Apr 29, 2017, 08:45 AM

11. State law says they can do it

What people don't know is that Gardendale agreed to let the North Smithfield students continue to go there, so I don't see this as being as racial as it is financial. Gardendale is a booming city following several other booming cities in Jefferson county by forming their own school districts, but according to the law they are allowed to do this.

"Under Alabama law, cities of more than 5,000 residents can form independent school systems, and Gardendale had argued that the federal court should have no say over its separation. "

http://www.nola.com/education/index.ssf/2017/04/alabama_segregation_controvers.html

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