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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAP's Clinton Foundation non-scandal was the worst journalistic malpractice of the 2016 election
On August 23, the Associated Press pushed out a tweet on a hot story
BREAKING: AP analysis: More than half those who met Clinton as Cabinet secretary gave money to Clinton Foundation.
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The thrust of the AP story was that those who wanted a meeting with Hillary Clinton during her term as secretary of state should start by making a donation to her foundation, a claim it boiled into what appeared to be a simple statistical analysis.
At least 85 of 154 people from private interests who met or had phone conversations scheduled with Clinton while she led the State Department donated to her family charity or pledged commitments to its international programs, according to a review of State Department calendars released so far to The Associated Press.
But those apparently precise numbers ignored the facts that:
The schedules that Braun and Sullivan had were incomplete, with detailed information representing only a portion of Hillary Clintons time in office.
The data was manipulated, throwing out any meeting they judged as having to do with someone who was part of the US government or a representative of a foreign government.
To find enough donors to generate the headline, they extended the list beyond direct donors to include employees of companies or charities that had donated.
If all of Hillary Clintons meetings were counted, or only direct donors were counted, then it would have become obvious that donors to the Clinton Foundation represented only a small fraction of those who visited her at the State Departmentwhich would have made for a much less impressive headline.
Under criticism, the AP issued a defense of the article on August 24.
AP has been transparent in how it has reported this story. It focused on Mrs. Clintons meetings and calls involving people outside government who were not federal employees or foreign diplomats, because meeting with U.S. or foreign government officials would inherently have been part of her job as secretary of state.
The problem with this definition of the job of the secretary of state is that its utterly ridiculous. There is nothing in the role that suggests the secretary need meet with every foreign diplomat who makes a request. The limits to which this silliness was raised can be seen who the report considered optional.
But the APs defense of the article isnt completely without merit, because it reveals one critical nugget of truth.
This reporting was done by the same AP investigative team that discovered Mrs. Clintons private email server and traced it to her basement in Chappaqua, New York, and whose reporting last week resulted in the resignation of Donald Trumps top campaign strategist.
What it shows is an AP investigative team that had already been successful in sensationalizing one area of the Clinton campaign and a need for a new storyeven if it had to be knitted from a whole cloth.
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The best sign that the AP was not only wrong, but knows that its wrong? From almost the moment that the article appeared, the Associated Press has refused to turn over the data used in making the calculations. Though limited amounts of information were provided in the original article and in followups, they repeatedly insisted that while the investigation relied on publicly available data they would not reveal the complete list of meetings that were included and those that were struck.
At the same time, David Fahrenthold was openly, methodically working through a list of items that he kept not just in public view, but invited the public to join him in analyzing that data.
The Associated Press kept their information hidden, rushed through the analysis, built a shaky case based on a deliberate mis-reading, and refused to share the information in a way that allowed anyone else to check their results.
A year later, thats why Fahrenthold has the Pulitzer, and the AP is guilty of egregious misconduct.
http://m.dailykos.com/story/2017/04/26/1621562/-AP-s-Clinton-Foundation-non-scandal-was-the-worst-journalistic-malpractice-of-the-2016-election?detail=facebook
spanone
(135,823 posts)dalton99a
(81,451 posts)Assholes.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)Even though Chaffetz's Gmail address was printed on business cards.
And Pence used his AOL account for govt business for a decade.
You can blame Judicial W*tch and a lot of money from the GOP for the Hillary "scandals". When entire nonprofits are set up to investigate Hillary and inflate scandals, is it any surprise they succeed?
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,844 posts)Phoenix61
(17,002 posts)TheDebbieDee
(11,119 posts)But Trump and the Russian hackers/bots kept the pay-4-play crap going...
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)Fake conflict of interests charges regarding a foundation that helps millions, blind eye toward a billionaire who uses his role in politics to bring in more millions for himself.
underpants
(182,769 posts)Cha
(297,154 posts)MarinCoUSA
(891 posts)Holy shit! Without the Foundation and Bengahzzzzziiiiiiii for the hate porn right wing nut job to hammer on and gull the For Profit Media whats wudda happened?
Well some say there was a story about Hillary and some unpaid college library fines they were sitting on. And then another story about Bill, a White House bathroom sink and self gratification.
It's called propaganda and that's how it works. And since the rePukes got nothing- about anything- so that's the only card they play- cause that's all they got. And they play it very well.
Ligyron
(7,627 posts)I was thinking, "oh shit, maybe Hills is shilling for the Foundation..."
Nevermind that the Foundation does good work.
certainot
(9,090 posts)truth doesn't matter anymore as long as you have a few hundred coordinated liars on 1200 coordinated radio stations to create your own.
putin's guys figured it out before the democrats did - how long has putin's bunch been piggybacking limbaugh and sons?
in 2016 gabriel sherman article wrote for new york magazine that sam nunberg told him in 2014 he listened to 1000 of hours of talk radio and reported to trump
the most successful russian trolling and hacking related work reinforced 25 years of anti hillary/clinton crap on rw radio and a lot of the same old memes anyone who knows rw radio would recognize. unfortunately most of those who know those rw radio memes are living in that alternate reality where clinton's emails are more important than climate change and obama and his shadow govt and moles still sneak around behind trump paying protestors and fabricating russian connections.
with some russian social media hype they got a lot of democrats to believe the shit too
all the left has to do is stop ignoring rw radio and tie trump to it, and that alt reality will start to fall apart
Nitram
(22,791 posts)some conspiracies are real, and this is one of those.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)What the press did to these good and faithful public servants who have helped millions around the world is a stain on the Fourth Estate that will never be removed - nor forgotten.
Another factor when Americans today mistrust the press more than Mr. Precedent?
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,173 posts)....and then had to sheepishly walk that falsehood back several days later when it turned out to be a completely unsubstantiated claim.
I'm sure that had no impact on public opinion whatsoever.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)Oh wait.
mcar
(42,302 posts)Except for Farenthold.
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NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Phoenix61
(17,002 posts)The charity is rated very highly. Do you believe the Clinton's personally benefitted from the charity?
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)And the willingness to ignore the facts for the misinformation is strong in this post.
Many of the "donations" you refer to are not just money handed to the Foundation to do with as they please, they are grants directly for specific projects that would not be implemented otherwise:
Craig Minassian, chief communications officer for the Clinton Foundation, said the Clinton Foundation is an implementer.
We operate programs on the ground, around the world, that are making a difference on issues ranging from poverty and global health to climate change and womens and girls participation, Minassian told us via email. Many large foundations actually provide grants to the Clinton Foundation so that our staff can implement the work.
Asked for some examples of the work it performs itself, the Clinton Foundation listed these:
Clinton Development Initiative staff in Africa train rural farmers and help them get access to seeds, equipment and markets for their crops.
Clinton Climate Initiative staff help governments in Africa and the Caribbean region with reforestation efforts, and in island nations to help develop renewable energy projects.
Staff at the Clinton Health Access Initiative, an independent, affiliated entity, work in dozens of nations to lower the cost of HIV/AIDS medicine, scale up pediatric AIDS treatment and promote treatment of diarrhea through life-saving Zinc/ORS treatment.
Clinton Health Matters staff work with local governments and businesses in the United States to develop wellness and physical activity plans.
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/06/where-does-clinton-foundation-money-go/
Are you aware that many of the "donations" that the foundation gets are not monetary, right? I'm going to assume from your post that you don't.
Many are in the form of strategic partnerships between companies and the orgs that need what that company supplies.
For instance, the foundation gets a pharmacuetical company to lower their price for an HIV/AIDS drug, in return for a gurarantee from the Foundation that the company will get a guranteed the volume of orders or that drug from a developing nation. (which led to some of the "Clintons are in bed with big pharma" no matter that demanding that they simply lower their price would not have gotten those drugs to those patients.)
https://www.clintonfoundation.org/our-work/clinton-health-matters-initiative/programs/strategic-partners
Some of the monetary donations from foreign governments were for the Bill Clinton Presidential library, which is part of the foundation. Foreign governments usually contribute to presidential libraries.
I'm sure that you've read all the right wing posts declaring that donations fell during 2016 - which I'm sure you had ready to deploy in response to any rebuttal to your post.
It's worth noting that Hillary was going to close down many of the aspects of the foundation after November, as to avoid even the appearance of conflict of interest. As most of the rest of us thought, she was going to be president. So, I can't imagine that strategic partnerships and donations were being sought during the campaign.
So there's that.
mcar
(42,302 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)because of all the ginned up bad publicity last year. Considering that it started in 2001 and the Clinton Global Initiative in 2005, I would think any dropoff in donations would be far more attributable to all the negative press than Hillary's 4 year tenure as Secretary of State.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)to avoid conflict of interest issues after the election, so there wasn't a lot of reaching out to strategic partners and donors.
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Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)Oh wait ,.... most Democrats did see this for what it was. (*Not to be confused with "most DU Members)*
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... aren't they? True, honest and loyal Democrats are much smarter than many give us credit for.
#I'mNoFool
#NotFoolingMe
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Gothmog
(145,130 posts)Mr. Sparkle
(2,932 posts)farking idiots.
btw, if the Clinton foundation and home email server were such big scandals, how come we haven't heard anything about them since the election. The silence has almost been deafening.
LisaM
(27,801 posts)The relentless criticism of her, including on this forum, is so tiresome.