So many on the alt left and right OBSESSED with how much money Obama is making

[La Lioness Priyanka]

so many fancy ways of saying 'blacks and women should not get high paid jobs, that's the domain of white men like me.And if I as a white man can't make that money how dare blacks and women???'

Link to tweet

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and of course nomikki's casual racism about it

Link to tweet

Also, here are some reactions from black activists

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[Johnny2X2X]

1. Alt Left?

What the hell is the Alt Left? Is this an attempt to normalize the Alt Right (White Supremacy), by claiming the Left has an equivalent?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

5. there is a white supremacist in the white house, he was normalized by white voters

62 million of them as were his views.

[snooper2]

7. the far left blends with the far right to complete the political circle

self important douchebags...

Never heard of any of the twittlers in the OP though, are they supposed to be important or something?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

9. josh barro and nomikki are pretty well known, for diff reasons

[bettyellen]

84. Barro was a republican until late last year- so much bullshit and it's funny someone

Like that could manipulate the socialist sackcloth and ashes crowd so easily. Morons.

[CajunBlazer]

66. Apparently you have never heard of the horseshoe theory - right?

[Chevy]

108. This

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=8982721

[hunter]

129. I hadn't seen that. Thanks.

That's a good compilation by Blue_Tires.

[LaydeeBug]

2. and no one is obseesed with what 45 is making. Funny that. nt

[La Lioness Priyanka]

10. very funny

[malaise]

16. +1,000

at his private resorts off tax payers money

[JustAnotherGen]

28. Amen

[JHan]

3. lol. Look I can't anymore with these fools. I really can't Lioness.

They can go fuck themselves off a cliff.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

6. +1

[Kahuna7]

52. LOL! +1 nt

[Afromania]

59. They don't even deserve the fucking themselves

just off the damn cliff.

[JHan]

63. lol.

[Tarheel_Dem]

90. +1. LOL!!!!!

"go fuck themselves off a cliff"!

[betsuni]

117. +1

[hunter]

130. With a cholla cactus...

.

[dalton99a]

4. Yeah, the Obamas should have taken a vow of poverty

and no self-respecting Democrat should fly first class or eat at a fancy restaurant. EVER!

[La Lioness Priyanka]

8. women and blacks making money is corrupt. TYT being funded by a rich republican though

is perfectly fine.

[dalton99a]

11. Exactly.

[bettyellen]

85. This is so obvious. Anyone who lumps all money makers into the corrupt pile is trying to suppress

The vote, wherther they're aware of it or not. They've been manipulated for political purposes.

[Cha]

98. The Profiteering "left" makes money off

of President Obama hate.. this is just one of their angels.. not as easy with him out of Office.

[stonecutter357]

12. the alt left absolutely hate people with money.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

19. yet a ton of them are funded by their daddies who have a lot of vested money in wall street

[Kahuna7]

55. Yep. A real hard on for the wealthy. The rich are always with us.

That will never change. I don't get the fixation. Sure many of them abuse workers. I know that. I also know that they have us by the short hairs. If we protest too much, they say fine! People in Mexico and Asia would love to have these jobs.

At least the Democrats try to see that we get something out of the deal.

[get the red out]

13. Alt left, Alt right

It's all "Russian" to me.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

20. +1

[SticksnStones]

14. A large and growing crop of freshly "wokers"

New to politics, they get the "outraged" part, but not much of the "strategics-for-gaining-control-of-any-or-all-branches-of-government-just-once-again...in my lifetime...please"

[La Lioness Priyanka]

22. a lot of racism too.

[SticksnStones]

41. Yup. It's there...

[Initech]

15. Argh, I'm so fucking sick of the liberal bashing.

It's like people just look for any excuse to bash liberals. God damn it. Someday conservatives will have to answer for their mistakes. Someday.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

17. a lot of these people are supposed progressives.

[Initech]

23. It's like a page straight out of the conservative playbook.

They keep us fighting with each other, they win elections. We have to stop this nonsense if we are going to beat Trump.

[JI7]

24. these people are not on the side of liberals.

[calimary]

80. THIS. Absolutely.

Divide and conquer. Not just some old moth-eaten cliche.

And, btw, to his critics, I'd ask - what's it to you that President Obama can get paid a small fortune for making a speech, now that he's out of office? Isn't he allowed to make a living? Isn't he allowed to command a princely paycheck, considering his resume? That resume means nothing? Those past achievements mean nothing? All those sacrifices he's made throughout his life in service to the public and for the public good mean nothing? I would hope he'd be paid HANDSOMELY for WHATEVER he does from here on out. To me, he's worth it. And he's certainly earned it. Hillary too. I think both of them deserve it, especially considering all the shit each of them has taken - FOR YEARS.

[Initech]

81. Yup and that's happening with the Bernie / Hillary fighting.

And now this. We can't win if we keep fighting the same battles, and we need to get focused and organized in 2018 if we're going to beat Trump and send the GOP packing. If not, then mark it as "same shit, different year".

[Iggo]

31. Exactly. Fuck this shit.

[Voltaire2]

128. Thank you.

[JI7]

18. fuck these jackoffs. i remember the nomiki konst from last year

Stupid fucking asshole. And that tweet just shows even more what i always thought of her.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

21. she is the worst. sort of literally.

[RelativelyJones]

25. I love Obama, but c'mon. He is not above criticism.

[JHan]

26. what is there to criticize here?

[JustAnotherGen]

34. I'm with ya!

That's insane that he has to 'ask permission' to make money from anyone.

They didn't do that to other FORMER Presidents . . . what is 'different' about this one. Hmmm . . .

[RelativelyJones]

36. Going on vacation is one thing, and god knows he deserved it, but does it have to be with

a super 1%er? Obama is the best leader the Democrats have had in my 50 years, but everyone has a tin ear sometimes. Him too. I remember being in the UK just before the Brexit vote and he came out with that "back of the line" stuff about a new trade agreement. That was the worst thing he could have said given the rebellious mood in the UK just before the vote.

[JI7]

51. brexit was about racism just like Trump was

[RelativelyJones]

54. I don't think Brexit was that simple Though racism and xenophobia was a big part as with Trump.

[JHan]

53. but have we subjected previous presidents to these "optics" tests?

When would be the right time for him to give this speech and accept money for it?

[RelativelyJones]

69. I am with you. The Obama's should make money. Book deals will net a couple million.

They deserve every penny.

[Sunlei]

56. Those people are his good friends. Good friends have you over & don't expect anything in return.

[Kahuna7]

58. I am quite sure that the Obamas will put their windfalls to good use. nt

[comradebillyboy]

77. So did you want him to stay at the Motel 6 in Biloxi instead?

Should he wear sack cloth and ashes to appease the far left purists?

[AgadorSparticus]

100. +1

[Maxheader]

138. Nothing

to criticize...

Citizen collecting what is offered...and to boot,
if it makes the fraud in the white house upset..good.

Trumph may understand he will never be enough of
a leader to receive that type of speaking fee.

[LexVegas]

27. What is there to criticize here?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

42. Black men making money in ways not pre-approved by white men.

He could make this kind of money entertaining us, but how dare he make this money selling his intellect. That's not his place.

[sheshe2]

74. He is acting to uppity for their liking???

I probably need this.

[JustAnotherGen]

32. Why should he be criticized

For making gobs of money? It's not like he did it while in the White House. He didn't charge the American people a fee for people to 'stay' at his private home for Government purposes. He didn't screw workers out of wages. He didn't screw contractors out of wages. He didn't set up a fake university to steal peoples' money. He doesn't take bribes from Russia or launder money for him.

What exactly is WRONG with him getting paid for a speech or writing a best seller?

WHY would ANYONE criticize this sweetheart of a man for doing well for himself?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

37. he's black. that's the answer to all your questions

[JustAnotherGen]

43. So - he's getting the Beyonce treatment?

Brilliant!

It's what this circle of black women (including my sister) and I call it.

They take potshots at those who need a hand up - but then turn around and hate beyonce for being rich!

Can't make this shit in America up. We can't fucking win with a large segment of the dominant culture. They need to get over themselves and realize not only has their cheese moved - but it's in Bey's and Obama's fridge!

[La Lioness Priyanka]

46. i think it especially hurts them that his money is not from entertainment

but from intellect prowess and power and access, which have always been the domain of white men.

[JustAnotherGen]

60. Ahh - yeah - that too!

[Phoenix61]

132. Or sports

They would be cool with that as long as it wasn't golf or tennis.

[uponit7771]

134. lofl

[mopinko]

33. dear peeps- ignore this person.

[Caliman73]

87. No he is not above criticism.

However, why would you criticize someone for giving a speech to Wall Street businesses. He was the President, he is important, and he may have something to offer the employees of the firms that are contracting with him to present.

He may be giving a speech about the need for diversity in hiring, or like Hilary, on the importance of hiring women, or equal pay. We don't know for sure, but there is not anything inherently wrong with giving a speech on Wall St.

I have been critical of the President, but when I saw the headlines on Salon, I thought, "so what". He is speaking to Wall St. for 400k. That is a nice haul. I wish I could command that price. "Good for him". He deserves to be able to make some money.

If it turns out that he shared information with Wall St on how to circumvent regulations, or that he was bashing, "those stupid liberals who voted for me", then we will have some problems.

Wall Street is not the devil. Unregulated, corrupt and greedy CEO's and lobbyists who push bad public policy from Wall St. are bad, but most people on Wall St. are just making a living.

[Cha]

105. Excellent points, Caliman.. just 'cause

boogey man "wall street" is where President Obama is speaking doesn't mean it's a bad thing.

People get too lazy when they see knee jerk buzzwords.

[Cha]

99. And, No one said that. Ever.

[uponit7771]

133. He's above this stupid shit

[LexVegas]

29. alt left. Perfect. nt

[Iggo]

30. Not me. I'm not fighting progressives over other progressives. Done with this shit.

[octoberlib]

38. This is media generated controversy and it's ridiculous.

Obama isn't in office and can do whatever he wants. Not to mention, people are condemning him before they've heard the content of the speech. And as for Alex Burns tweet that Dems would be coming down hard if this was a Republican, I could fucking care less what Republicans do after they leave office. I'm usually just glad they're gone. Obama can do whatever he wants as a private citizen. Fuck these people.

[mopinko]

39. alt left eat the rich.

or those that play that on the interwebs.
ignore, ignore, ignore, ignore, ignore, ignore, ignore, ignore, ignore, ignore, ignore, ignore, ignore, ignore, ignore, ignore, ignore.

good thread to update your list.

[Blue_Tires]

44. It's no coincidence that after Sanders has a bad week

The "cooler than you" leftbros in the punditsphere and on Twitter have unloaded both barrels on Chelsea and Obama while giving a pass to Ivanka and the dozens of other currently ongoing Trump scandals...

[La Lioness Priyanka]

47. Yup.

[mercuryblues]

45. the republikkkans

Are just pissed that Obama is getting higher speaking fees than Bush.

[PoorMonger]

48. Maybe It'll Get Trump OUT Faster

If he starts thinking he can pull down those big fees to go speak maybe he'll decide he likes the idea of being a former pres as opposed to a current one who actually has a job to do.

Of course I can't imagine that anyone who shells out a big payment to Trump to speak will regret it.

Ha where's the sarcasm smiley when I need it?

[Sunlei]

50. Republicans will never dump trump. Their party benefits with incompetent president & his WH Admin.

[PoorMonger]

57. Don't Need Republicans

My post was about the temptation for Trump to QUIT if he thinks he'll make a killing doing the one part of the job he likes ( giving speeches / holding rallies). I have to illusion that the republicans would turf him.

[Sunlei]

65. That man will never, ever quit. He may lie, cheat, hide from, sue, 'pay off', 'legally settle', and

'destroy peoples lives', but he never will quit or admit personal failures.

[Sunlei]

49. I remember when Obama made his first million and 2 years later paid back his student loans!

used the same IRS self employed form I fill out I was happy to see his form and finally know I didn't make any mistakes on mine.

[Volstagg]

61. alt-left?

This certainly isn't the unity I keep hearing so much about outside of DU. Why the desire to alienate the progressive wing of the party?

Yes, there are assholes of all political stripes. But to compare the fart left progressives with the racists pricks that are the alt-right seems to be working too hard.

[JI7]

64. they Aren't the progressive wing of the party. in fact they aren't really part of the party at all

[NurseJackie]

73. I stand in agreement with you there.

[NurseJackie]

72. LOL!

Yes, there are assholes of all political stripes. But to compare the fart left progressives with the racists pricks that are the alt-right seems to be working too hard.

[Volstagg]

75. Glad I could bring mirth to your day.

Not sure what tickles your fancy, but whatever, I guess.

Making a few assumptions: if your group of the Dem party gets there way and pushes the progressives out, I think you will be surprised to find that winning elections will become very difficult.

This is a time to actually try and unite the left. Either party could fracture at this point. Whichever fractures first will probably take a decade or two to get back to power. Maybe we should make sure it is the Republican and not the Democratic party.

[NurseJackie]

79. LOL Well... if you read carefully, you'll see what amuses me.

Making a few assumptions: if your group of the Dem party gets there (sic) way and pushes the progressives out, I think you will be surprised to find that winning elections will become very difficult.

What do you mean by "your group"?? The only group I belong to is the Democratic Party itself.

Nobody is trying to push out progressives from the Democratic Party. Democrats want more people to JOIN the party and BECOME actual active and loyal Democrats. But in pursuit of that goal, that doesn't mean that loyal Democrats such as myself and others must remain silent while being smeared and attacked, or when "some" are willing to negotiate away women's rights, or use women's rights as a bargaining chip.

But you're not suggesting that. I'm just saying.

[Freethinker65]

62. Let's wait a bit to see what the Obama's choose to do with their newfound wealth

I, for one, hope they live very happily and comfortably ever after. They deserve it and do not owe the country more than what they already gave. However, I would be surprised if they do not continue to give back to those in need and to improve the world.

[BeyondGeography]

67. Taking Wall Street money to talk about health care isn't my idea of good news for the Obama brand

And I'm a big fan. Moreover, I look forward to him proving me wrong as he has so many times by giving a speech that exceeds my expectations and resolves whatever qualms I have about his being there and taking their money.

In the meantime, people have every right to discuss whether it's a wise and useful move.

[potone]

68. There is an attitude among conservatives...

that liberals are not supposed to be wealthy. Some on the left have picked this up without thinking how it feeds into a false right-wing narrative that liberals or leftists all hate capitalism. There is nothing that these people hate more than a successful liberal person, for that wrecks their argument that those who criticize unregulated capitalism are motivated by envy, not by a sense of justice or simple fairness.

[JHan]

71. great point.

[MrPurple]

76. Yes, they love to throw out the phrase 'limosine liberal'

and try to imply that if someone is successful, they're hypocrites for arguing that there should be a progressive income tax with a healthy, functioning government to help the less fortunate. The truth is that they're the opposite of hypocrites because their positions aren't based on personal gain, but morality and a belief in a healthy society.

[Caliman73]

88. Agreed

They forget that FDR actually saved American Capitalism from itself in the 30's when other countries were becoming communist or fascist, FDR, a relatively wealthy man himself, advocated for regulations to control the excesses of capitalism in order to preserve the system and make it more equitable.

His cousin Teddy, also fairly well off, though a Republican, also wanted to reign in the worst impulses of the rich and powerful during the Progressive Era and actually ran against his former party when his successor began to side with the wealthy.

[LAS14]

70. Whether intentionally or not, Obama's acceptance...

... of this honorarium is a way of using his prestige to show up the idiocy of those who were outraged when Hillary took the going rate for her speeches.

[betsuni]

106. That was my first thought.

[chillfactor]

78. warms my heart..

that President Obama is making money after leaving leaving office......hilarious that the orange one's supporters are tying themselves in knots over his making money. LOL!

[retrowire]

82. Here's a crazy idea.

If they're not acting like leftists...

Maybe they're imposters? Maybe they're trolls?

But they sure as hell ain't leftists like myself.

So stop giving them the fucking label and call them what they really are.

Imposters.

[mwooldri]

83. So the Obamas can't spend time with their friends?

It seems that they count Sir Richard Branson as a friend. And he happens to own a yacht. And he takes his friends out on said yacht.

If anything I'd accuse Barack and Michelle of being secret Brits... personally I'd love to see a Sir Barack Obama (but to the Republicans it's "Sir President&quot but probably never happen. I look up to and respect Richard Branson, as I do Barack and Michelle. For me it's not a race thing. They're just decent folk, trying hard to make the world a better place... and why can't one have a bit of fun now and again on a boat or island?

[m-lekktor]

86. I was actually surprised to see Matt Yglesias criticize Obama over this at VOX.

I wouldn't exactly consider him "alt left".



http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/4/25/15419740/obama-speaking-fee

[JHan]

91. He's been entertaining the fools these days. And what is the "ethical" flaw here?

wtf is this shit. Does he have evidence of some sort of lobbying arrangement?

does he know what was said in the speech? If he doesn't like the going rate of speeches for ex presidents, take it up with the ones wanting to pay President Obama otherwise, he can STFU.

[m-lekktor]

92. I was surprised to see that from him!

I expect it from lefties but not him of all people. He is a moderate or I thought he was anyway.

[JHan]

93. sorry the outburst wasn't meant for you personally.

Just the.. grrrr.............. It's such a silly piece. But yes he's kind of moderate-leaning depending on where the wind blows.

[m-lekktor]

96. Oh i know, no worries!!

[Chevy]

107. So he took a break from stalking Chelsea Clinton? N/T

[m-lekktor]

119. Really!?! I guess I haven't paid attention to him in awhile. lol. nr

[Qutzupalotl]

89. Obama is not running for office again.

He cannot institute policies that benefit Wall Street or anyone else. That is the difference.

Meanwhile, Trump enriches himself daily with foreign emoluments and even invites foreign dignitaries to bribe him via Mar-a-Lago.

[melman]

94. Holy fuck is this thread ridiculous

[Cha]

112. That means it's GREAT!

[betsuni]

115. Heh.

:

[mcar]

95. No surprise there

OK to endorse an anti-choice candidate but making money on a speech is a bridge too far.

[Cha]

97. They can take their fucking "establishment" insulting

buzzword and stick it.

They called Planned Parenthood and John Lewis the E word.

They have no fucking cred. end of story.

Tough shit they don't like it WAhwahwahWAH

[Warpy]

101. On the left and right? Wow, that covers all of us

but I can't remember giving much of a shit about it.

Might want to refine your brush tip a little.

[Laffy Kat]

102. As far as I'm concerned, he has earned every penny he brings in.

Good on him.

[Egnever]

103. Agreed

[Chevy]

104. The dude bro on Don Lemon tonight was laughed at

By Maria Cardona the two Trump surrogates and Don Lemon for dragging PBO for it.

[Cha]

113. Hehe.. good to hear!

Link to tweet

Chevy

[smirkymonkey]

109. Hey, greedy right-wing hypocrites!

You can just fuck right off!

[betsuni]

110. The alt-left stuff that I've seen says it's obvious that status quo Wall Street

is now paying off Obama for being nice to them for eight years. Like, after he became president, Wall Street went to the White House and told Obama that if he does everything they want, he can give a speech for 400K after he is done presidenting, now doesn't that sound nice? Seems to me that's a rather paltry bribe, but then I'm not a moron.

[Cha]

114. The alt left is full of it.. Statement from Prez spx, Eric Schultz..

Link to tweet

Oh &..

Link to tweet

[betsuni]

116. Thanks, hadn't seen the statement.

Too bad the fact there was no quid pro quo will NEVER penetrate the alt-left defensive shield protecting them from reality.

[Cha]

118. "Too bad the fact there was no quid pro quo will NEVER penetrate the alt-left defensive shield

protecting them from reality."

That deserves the Title slot! Thank you, betsuni!

[Cha]

111. The ONLY outrageous part of Obama's speaking fee,

Link to tweet

[Starry Messenger]

120. Both of the Obamas have given up 8 years of earning power

Either of them could have earned more than the Presidential salary. People criticizing their fees are assholes.

[betsuni]

122. +1

[Stinky The Clown]

121. Please explain what you mean by "alt-left"

[Chevy]

123. Here

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=8982721

[TCJ70]

124. I dunno...the speech thing is kind of an optics problem

With how much it mattered to about half the party during the last primary that only ended less than a year ago it just looks...bad.

This is really a ridiculous thing to make a race/gender issue out of. In context of the past year politically it makes total sense that some people would see a problem here.

[Chevy]

135. Sorta like booing John Lewis and other black leaders?

Kinda of an optics problem.

[TCJ70]

136. Deflect much?

Flesh out your point.

[Chevy]

125. Out of touch with black voters

The so called phony progressive media need to be held accountable for doing this to PBO

Link to tweet

[Bernardo de La Paz]

126. Watch high-velocity post count relatively new concern trolls flock to such threads. . . nt

[beachbum bob]

127. who cares that matters?? Obama's have always been very charitiable people and I expect we will see

large donations by them....something that those who are complaining most likely don't do

[Gothmog]

131. This faux outrage is pure BS and only helps the GOP

Why should we care what President Obama does as a private citizen

[Zing Zing Zingbah]

137. He deserves it for putting up with all the shit for the last 8 years.

I also don't know what is wrong with speaking at bank.

Obama isn't running for office or currently in office, so he can do anything he wants that's legal.