Watch Pence being groomed to take the POTUS spot, happening right before our eyes. By the time...

[Hekate]

...the Mad King is yanked off the stage, even most of the guys in MAGA hats should feel some relief.

What's more intriguing is what Nikki Haley is up to. Who's giving her direction for her role at the UN? There's some indication she's making it up for herself. Further, who initiated that upcoming trip to the White House for the entire UN Security Council? Again, I got the impression from today's talking heads that Nikki is initiating this. She can't possibly believe, by now, that a lunchtime conversation with DTs will do anything to make him more intelligent. But it sure makes her look ... Vice Presidential, at a minimum.

Watch what they do, not what they say.

[pangaia]

1. Watch what they do, not what they say.

Exactly.
Has the entire Security Council EVER gone to the WH?
Could be but it sure is weird.

Something is up!

[Hekate]

2. Apparently this has never been done before

And as soon as I asked myself "Why now?" it came to me.

[Horse with no Name]

3. I thought the same thing

the transfer of power is happening right alongside the shit show.

[lark]

13. What if they have tape of Pence also colluding?

I know, I know, I have heard no hint of that, but hey, a girl can dream, can't she? It's said there is tape on Ryan, McConnell, Sessions, Flynn, Manafort, Page and Drumpf himself. I'd be really happy to have every one of them out of government, just unhappy if Pence becomes president. While he won't turn the world over to Russia, he will totally fuck us over, so I'm hoping there's something to bring him down with the other traitors.

[Horse with no Name]

15. They definitely found the fatal flaw in the Constitution and exploited it

the fact that the party that cheated and colluded are the ones responsible for investigating it and holding the ones that did it responsible is laughable.

[Hekate]

18. I keep hoping Pence will be found to be dirty beforehand, like Spiro Agnew...

But I've never heard anything to indicate that he's anything other than what he seems to be: a hyper-religious guy who's a dumb as a box of rocks and will do his damndest to conflate Church and State.

Pence may have been chosen by Trump in part because he looks the part, and that matters to the reality tv star.

So once again, watch the edges of the screen. Nikki Haley was considered a rising GOP star before she became governor, and she seems to be making the most of this appointment.

[Volstagg]

22. I don't think that's better.

Here's how I see that scenario (if it ever happens):

Pence is found dirty and impeached and removed.
For the sake of argument, Trump is also found to be dirty about that time and isn't allowed to name a new VP (which is a stretch).
Trump is impeached and removed.
Paul Ryan is President and names a VP.

Not sure that is better.

[Hekate]

24. Remember, it didn't go that way with Nixon. The House made sure to get Gerald Ford in place...

...before starting the impeachment process with Nixon. The office of potus never even came close to the Speaker of the House, by design. I don't think there will be a vacancy for Ryan, either. If Pence becomes President, a replacement VP will be appointed, I would say by the House.

[Volstagg]

25. Well, yeah.

But it's not like the house is going to cause a reasonable appointment if they get rid of Pence. It will be another Pence.

[Hekate]

26. It's why I'm so interested in Nikki Haley's activities.She's really putting herself in the public...

...eye, and very cleverly. She looks like she has a command of the facts, unlike Trump, and can pull important international players into a room for a coherent conference, also unlike Trump.

Go back to my OP. Pence is out there on the damn battleship, not the doofus. Pence just had a 20 minute tv interview in an executive-appearing office.

Watch the transition of power....

[Volstagg]

27. So you are guessing Pence/Haley?

She is a darling of the party.

[Hekate]

30. Just watching developments. The GOP knows the currest situation is not sustainable...

That's what is becoming evident -- that they can see what we see.

The difference is the GOP versus all of the Mad King's handlers and sycophants are in a struggle to see who can hang onto ultimate power the longest. Their fondest wish came true -- to hold all the branches of government at once -- and all of them must fear it slipping from their grasp. When Trump goes, then all of his family will go too. Trump Inc. scarcely wants that to happen. But the longer they all stay, the more damage they do to the country. However, with him gone the "normal" GOP can reconsolidate power, and I think they'd like to do that.

Either way the country is screwed, but maybe we won't get nuked.

[Big_K]

28. But on the positive side, Ryan won't be my representative anymore

(I grasp for something positive these days)

[Volstagg]

33. Always look on the bright

side of life. On my phone or of grab that video.

[Volaris]

20. If we really wanted to be dicks about it,

We would wait to see if we get control of the House next year. Reason is, incoming Majority can name anyone they want to Speakership. Name Hillary, and then impeach the TICKET. Trump goes, Pence goes, and anyone who abeted them that doesn't want to go to prison, can back that play.

Yes it's partisan.
Yes it's the worst kind of political optics.

It's also the Constitutional Remedy to an election stolen by and for the purpose of commission of High Treason. If the snowflakes whine, they can be asked why they hate America. Fuck em if they were dumb enough to get caught. It will take the better part of this year to get the paper-trail solid enough for Court anyway.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

16. Definitely. tRump says everything depending on who last spoke to him and his audience. . nt

[Kittycow]

4. I wonder if press will be allowed with Security Council shindig.

[Hekate]

5. Probably not. It will be left to Spicey to 'splain it. nt

[Kittycow]

7. He'll be a tongue-tied mess.

[saidsimplesimon]

6. Thank you, Hekate!

I share your opinion.

Your analysis is both accurate and frightening. President Bannon is being replaced outside our White House by the Pence crowd, more palace intrigue. I suspect Sessions is taking his orders from Pence, under the cover of night at the VP residence.

If this most likely true speculation goes viral, will the tweet stormer take over another news cycle? At what point will republicans decide that the mad king is damaging their brand?

"Watch what they do, not what they say." A front pager at kos uses a similar saying.

[Turbineguy]

10. And if Pence will transition

from the Old Testament to the New Testament, we might be in with a chance.

Do unto others and all that.

[Motley13]

11. that is do unto others before they can do it to you, you know the Christian way

[annabanana]

19. "Sessions is taking his orders from Pence, under the cover of night at the VP residence."

THIS would make tRump crazy. He'd be trying to figure out a way to fire Pence.. or maybe just buy him off...

[Sunlei]

8. Pence does ALL the work, the Republican party insiders work and they try to get trump to Florida

as often as possible. Even a presidents foreign visits are done by Pence. Republicans let trump have foreign Leaders over to the white house for the public spectacle. Or trump just calls them. Pence goes to their country and has serious meetings like he's already President.

I don't think any republicans much like the UN or even know what they are.

The UN president, the General from Norway I wish he was an American and spoke for us instead of Haley.

I agree with you, Nikki Haley is making shit up on the fly and that gets children gassed and killed in this World.

[lame54]

9. that would royally suck if...

they kick Pence out and Haley becomes the first woman prez

time to slit your wrist with those glass ceiling shards

[Roy Rolling]

12. The GOP will impeach Trump

Watch Priebus throw Trump under the bus by saying, in essence, he is the boss and will be judged favorable in the end. That really means Trump is a loose cannon and the GOP will take care of that when there is an auspicious time to drag him down.

[Greywing]

17. I am not holding my breath ...

GOP is gutless

[NoMoreRepugs]

14. Interesting take on what's unfolding

[Tbear]

21. Didn't Manafort Pick Pence?

Sorry I don't have a link, but I am sure I read it here and it is enlightening and disturbing at the same time. Pence is in on it, that crap about him being lied to by Flynn is just that, crap.
Follow the money sports fans, it is all about trump/ Russian mafia/ putin/ money laundering/ sanctions. Pure evil.

[JI7]

29. i don't think so. i think there were very few people who wanted to be on the ticket

so they didn't have many options.

it was pence, christie, gingrich and i think someone else . trump's personal choice was christie but jared kushner didn't want him because of the issue with sending his dad to prison.

so kushner and ivanka got trump to go with pence.

[VigilantG]

31. You are right, Manafort picked Pence

In something described as a surprise visit or extended stay for Trump to meet Pence. That is why Christie had that "face" on stage behind Trump when announcement was made. Christie was expecting VP nom.

I can't recall why Manafort chose Pence though.

[VigilantG]

32. Manafort chose Pence because...

Pence could bring in Evangelicals, or...

Look at the third paragraph from the Daily Mail news story link I highlighted. Rich! Just rich! We can't make this stuff up!


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3887106/Donald-Trump-wanted-Chris-Christie-pick-VP-chose-Mike-Pence-pressure-aides-family.html

"Had it not been for the scandal, Christie may have been Trump's pick, not Pence.

'Trump had wanted Christie but Bridgegate would have been the biggest national story,' a source close to Trump told the Post.

'He'd lose the advantage of not being corrupt.'

Trump told Christie that he would pick Pence because not doing so would 'tear my family apart.' "

[Cary]

23. Forty percent approval

What's his name is still popular with the base. They will not risk pissing the low information knuckle draggers.

[Hekate]

34. kick for another day

[DonCoquixote]

35. I agree, but it is not pence

Remember, number three is paul Ryan, someone who could never get elected thanks to his desire to kill SS, but who could be installed, much to the joy of the Koch bros