Fri Apr 21, 2017, 12:32 PM

Why do I need my birth certificate to go to Toronto?

After years of falling walls and borders, we're building them up again. Not Mexico, or the EU, but CANADA!

I used to drive up to Montreal every month or so for work a while back, but now it looks like a living hell. I do remember the Canadians just waving me through, but on the way back I got questioned by our border nazis as if I was a criminal. And that was before 9-11.

Now, we need a special card or a passport to get up there. Why? Somebody thought it would be a good idea. Catch terrorists and criminals at the border? Bad enough they're making it tougher to get in the US, but now they're making it tough to get OUT! Maybe it's something they just want to do and 9-11 gave them the excuse.

Anyway, NY is the one state so far that has the enhanced drivers license (for an extra 30 bucks, of course) that gets you through the border bullshit. Went to get one yesterday, but they need my birth certificate to prove I'm a US citizen. I proved I was a citizen years ago when they first came up with that nonsense to renew the license, but now I have to prove it again.

Oh. And you can't get a NYC Health Dept stamped birth certificate any more. You drag your ass down to Worth St and get the cute one like Trump showed us. I got one of those a few years ago and it seemed like a joke. Too bad I don't still have it. You can, however, go online and get it, for 40 bucks.

AAAAaaaarrrrggghhh

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44 replies	Author	Time	Post
Why do I need my birth certificate to go to Toronto? (Original post)	TreasonousBastard	Apr 21	OP
You don't	HoneyBadger	Apr 21	#1
Joisey	mzteaze	Apr 21	#2
Lived there during 9-11 and remember when that happened...	TreasonousBastard	Apr 21	#6
Me too.	mzteaze	Apr 21	#13
Surprisigly	crazycatlady	Apr 21	#17
Depends on whether or not you want to come back	jberryhill	Apr 21	#3
It's easy to show your passport	FakeNoose	Apr 21	#4
Not everyone has a passport	crazycatlady	Apr 21	#14
OK but Trump didn't start this	FakeNoose	Apr 21	#39
Not blaming Trump	crazycatlady	Apr 21	#40
If one cannot afford a passport, they probably cannot afford to travel	HoneyBadger	Apr 21	#41
all the travel I've done recently was company paid	crazycatlady	Apr 21	#43
I love Urban Dictionary: Just Sayin'...	LanternWaste	Apr 21	#18
Also, you can order a "long" birth certificate online	HoneyBadger	Apr 21	#5
if you need a BC or passport to get into Canada, you should be angry with the Canadians.	frankieallen	Apr 21	#7
Canada doesn't seem to care-- it's my own damn country that's causing the trouble.	TreasonousBastard	Apr 21	#8
The US sets the policy for returning from Canada, not entering Canada.	onenote	Apr 21	#19
Blame Bush (W) for that one.	LisaM	Apr 21	#9
In college, I took a camping class	HoneyBadger	Apr 21	#11
I think I've been three or four times.	LisaM	Apr 21	#21
Same... I never had to show my license.	demmiblue	Apr 21	#24
Going back and forth to Mexico used to be easy too... if you were white.	hunter	Apr 21	#36
I used to come back	d_r	Apr 21	#37
I worked in Juarez, TJ, and MC for years while staying in the US	HoneyBadger	Apr 21	#42
I believe we've needed passport or some other serious	PoindexterOglethorpe	Apr 21	#10
Well, apparently TreasonousBastard needs one to leave the country.	frankieallen	Apr 21	#12
If that's the case, its because the Canadians are requiring it.	onenote	Apr 21	#20
No I don't, but why would I leave if I can't get back?	TreasonousBastard	Apr 21	#25
Ohhh there are lots of reasons, although	PoindexterOglethorpe	Apr 21	#30
As I mentioned in another post, every time I came back from Europe my passport was blank...	TreasonousBastard	Apr 21	#33
Interesting.	PoindexterOglethorpe	Apr 21	#44
I have a friend who had an uncle visiting from China.....	LisaM	Apr 21	#22
I have a friend in Toronto who was born in Sweden and came over when she was 5. Since she wasn't...	TreasonousBastard	Apr 21	#27
You know those 5-year old Swedes....	LisaM	Apr 21	#28
The passport card can't be stamped, so it's restricted to certain countries, although...	TreasonousBastard	Apr 21	#26
The restriction is clearly noted. But can't it be used for returning from	PoindexterOglethorpe	Apr 21	#32
You must have travelled in the schengen area	SoCalNative	Apr 21	#35
you are all over the place, what the hell are you talking about?	frankieallen	Apr 21	#38
Canada is trying to keep Trump voters and supporters out	Doreen	Apr 21	#15
And don't have any kind of record.	Hassin Bin Sober	Apr 21	#16
Bush and Cheney had three DUIs between them.......	LisaM	Apr 21	#23
I don't think they can leave the country	SticksnStones	Apr 21	#29
They can and do leave the country.	former9thward	Apr 21	#31
NY isn't the only State with the enhanced driver's license:	sl8	Apr 21	#34

Response to TreasonousBastard (Original post)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 12:35 PM

HoneyBadger (2,297 posts)

1. You don't

You need one to get back. I have dealt with issues getting back from Canada for decades. And I drive there at least 6x a year. Typically a full search of the car. It has never been easy.

Why do I need my birth certificate to go to Toronto?

1. You don't

2. Joisey

6. Lived there during 9-11 and remember when that happened...

13. Me too.

17. Surprisigly

3. Depends on whether or not you want to come back

4. It's easy to show your passport

14. Not everyone has a passport

39. OK but Trump didn't start this

40. Not blaming Trump

41. If one cannot afford a passport, they probably cannot afford to travel

43. all the travel I've done recently was company paid

18. I love Urban Dictionary: Just Sayin'...

5. Also, you can order a "long" birth certificate online

7. if you need a BC or passport to get into Canada, you should be angry with the Canadians.

8. Canada doesn't seem to care-- it's my own damn country that's causing the trouble.

19. The US sets the policy for returning from Canada, not entering Canada.

9. Blame Bush (W) for that one.

11. In college, I took a camping class

21. I think I've been three or four times.

24. Same... I never had to show my license.

36. Going back and forth to Mexico used to be easy too... if you were white.

37. I used to come back

42. I worked in Juarez, TJ, and MC for years while staying in the US

10. I believe we've needed passport or some other serious

12. Well, apparently TreasonousBastard needs one to leave the country.

20. If that's the case, its because the Canadians are requiring it.

25. No I don't, but why would I leave if I can't get back?

30. Ohhh there are lots of reasons, although

33. As I mentioned in another post, every time I came back from Europe my passport was blank...

44. Interesting.

22. I have a friend who had an uncle visiting from China.....

27. I have a friend in Toronto who was born in Sweden and came over when she was 5. Since she wasn't...

28. You know those 5-year old Swedes....

26. The passport card can't be stamped, so it's restricted to certain countries, although...

32. The restriction is clearly noted. But can't it be used for returning from

35. You must have travelled in the schengen area

38. you are all over the place, what the hell are you talking about?

15. Canada is trying to keep Trump voters and supporters out

16. And don't have any kind of record.

23. Bush and Cheney had three DUIs between them.......

29. I don't think they can leave the country

31. They can and do leave the country.

34. NY isn't the only State with the enhanced driver's license: