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Wed Apr 5, 2017, 12:09 PM

War. What is it good for?

About a week ago I posted a thread titled :Are We Going to War without the American People Knowing about it?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028853702

The answer is yes.

The definitive scary truth from Politico:

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/like-middle-east-wars-youre-gonna-love-president-trump-214985

The amount of troop build ups and bombings with increased civilian deaths should scare the bejeesus out of us all.

Beyond deepening U.S. involvement in established war zones, Trump has also signed off on expanded authorities for conducting military operations outside these areas, loosening Obama-era rules intended to protect innocent civilians. Under Obama, strikes against terrorists outside “areas of active hostilities” in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan were subject to significant constraints and White House oversight. To take action, the Pentagon had to demonstrate that an individual (or network of individuals) represented a “continuing and imminent threat” to the United States, the intelligence had to confirm the target and there had to be “near certainty” that no civilians would be killed by the strike.

Trump has already taken action to unshackle the military from these rules. During the same Jan. 25 dinner in which Trump greenlit the disastrous Jan. 29 special operations forces raid in Yemen, the president also agreed to a proposal made by Defense Secretary James Mattis to declare large areas of Yemen active areas of hostilities. This gives the U.S. military much greater latitude to conduct operations against al Qaeda’s local affiliate, al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), without checking back with the White House before each strike. Operations in Yemen will continue to be governed by the laws of war, as they are in Iraq and Syria, but the U.S. military will be able to target a much larger range of individuals, the threshold for actionable intelligence will be lower and the acceptable level of collateral damage will be higher. As a result, the Trump administration has already carried out 70 airstrikes in Yemen, nearly double the number the Obama administration conducted in all of 2016. (Trump has reportedly granted a similar expansion of authorities for Somalia, and may also be asked to consider doing so for Libya.)

Finally, the Trump administration has taken steps to scale back transparency. Although some information has trickled out about recent troop deployments, the Pentagon said last week that it will no longer “routinely announce or confirm information about the capabilities, force numbers, locations or movement of forces in or out of Iraq and Syria.”

In the near term, Trump’s approach may kill more terrorists and achieve tactical gains. But its single-minded emphasis on military escalation carries with it real dangers that could produce strategic defeat.


This is all being done in secret with no efforts at diplomacy. The point of war is death and destruction, money for the MIC and oil.

And some kind of deranged power trip for trump.

You should read the whole article.

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Response to notdarkyet (Original post)

Wed Apr 5, 2017, 12:11 PM

1. As the Temptations sang, "Absolutely nothing - say it again..."

 

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Response to ADX (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 5, 2017, 12:20 PM

4. Edwin Starr, but yeah.

It's a great song that addressed the Vietnam War and inner city tensions at the same time.

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Response to LisaM (Reply #4)

Thu Apr 6, 2017, 12:00 PM

6. FYI, the Temptations sang it too...

 

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Response to notdarkyet (Original post)

Wed Apr 5, 2017, 12:14 PM

2. If Hillary or Barack had done this it would be all anyone would talk about and the GOP

would go nuts.

War is profitable and it might save the major treasonous criminal in the WH from losing his place.

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Response to notdarkyet (Original post)

Wed Apr 5, 2017, 12:20 PM

3. About "War"...what it is good for..not a new discussion...Lysistrata..written 411BC (2500 years ago)

Lysistrata (/laɪˈsɪstrətə/ or /ˌlɪsəˈstrɑːtə/; Attic Greek: Λυσιστράτη, "Army Disbander" is a comedy by Aristophanes. Originally performed in classical Athens in 411 BCE, it is a comic account of a woman's extraordinary mission to end the Peloponnesian War by denying all the men of the land any sex, which was the only thing they truly and deeply desired. Lysistrata persuades the women of Greece to withhold sexual privileges from their husbands and lovers as a means of forcing the men to negotiate peace—a strategy, however, that inflames the battle between the sexes. The play is notable for being an early exposé of sexual relations in a male-dominated society. Additionally, its dramatic structure represents a shift from the conventions of Old Comedy, a trend typical of the author's career.[2] It was produced in the same year as the Thesmophoriazusae, another play with a focus on gender-based issues, just two years after Athens' catastrophic defeat in the Sicilian Expedition. At this time, Greek theatre was a profound form of entertainment, which was extremely popular for all audiences as it addressed political issues relevant to that time.

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Response to Stuart G (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 5, 2017, 12:24 PM

5. Women in Africa, forget where, used the same strategy during a conflict. It worked.

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Response to notdarkyet (Original post)

Thu Apr 6, 2017, 12:02 PM

7. war....good for w's ratings....i'm sure trump is eyeing that.

in the end, not so much.

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Response to notdarkyet (Original post)

Thu Apr 6, 2017, 12:07 PM

8. Corporations and the billionaires who own the Corporations.

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