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Rep. Adam Schiff's response to Donald Trump's tweet - this a.m. - will make POTUS shit his pants. (Original Post) kpete Mar 2017 OP
Has her testimony before House committee been re-scheduled? Achilleaze Mar 2017 #1
After reveal of WH direct role with Nunes, Schiff seemed much more confident of House investigation wishstar Mar 2017 #6
I was interested to learn Schiff spent a few years Hortensis Mar 2017 #36
I find Schiff's professionalism very encouraging. Our Calif Dem delegation pleases me... Hekate Mar 2017 #38
He may be being groomed for that. Hortensis Mar 2017 #47
I do too! But I'm pissed at how media keeps smearing him together with Nunes!! lostnfound Mar 2017 #62
They're influenced by conservatives among them and Hortensis Apr 2017 #73
I find Schiff's professionalism very encouraging. Our Calif Dem delegation pleases me... LenaBaby61 Apr 2017 #75
A couple things... jaysunb Mar 2017 #61
Cool! Cha Apr 2017 #67
I volunteered on his campaign to defeat rogan Merlot Apr 2017 #71
+1 n/t jaysunb Apr 2017 #74
I must say that I'd never noticed him much before radical noodle Apr 2017 #76
So, the hearing is not entirely up to Nunes? Duppers Mar 2017 #40
How can we be sure oldtime dfl_er Mar 2017 #44
Intel should be able to determine that. Amaryllis Mar 2017 #48
Depends DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2017 #2
T R U M P T W I T T E R P O O P L. Coyote Mar 2017 #42
There's been a Schiff in the force underpants Mar 2017 #3
Trump is schiffing in his pants flamingdem Mar 2017 #16
+1 progressoid Mar 2017 #54
Flynn lied to FBI about his conversations with Kislyak wishstar Mar 2017 #4
Flynn is going to jail. L. Coyote Mar 2017 #17
+1 uponit7771 Mar 2017 #39
The thing about Schiff is that he knows all sorts of stuff MineralMan Mar 2017 #5
I think Josh Marshall of TPM pointed out that you don't get KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #7
The old story goes... Wounded Bear Mar 2017 #9
AKA: He who talks first, walks first! - nt KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #10
Installment just posted - The Gravity is Strong #3 L. Coyote Mar 2017 #19
I agree. Scruffy1 Mar 2017 #33
Better yet- Flynn testifies without immunity. I don't trust the shifty little shit-o-weasel. NBachers Mar 2017 #25
He'll just take the 5th. MineralMan Mar 2017 #28
i dont know i you can take the 5th in a court martial. mopinko Mar 2017 #56
I'm talking about in a congressional hearing. MineralMan Mar 2017 #63
if he perjures himself, he is subject to court martial. mopinko Mar 2017 #64
technically, 2 above him, Pence and Trump DeminPennswoods Mar 2017 #34
The VP is window dressing, has only a small Constitutional role in the Senate. L. Coyote Mar 2017 #37
Plus Schiff has prosecuted & convicted a Russian spy. Nunes is udderly out of his league. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2017 #23
Yes. Schiff, unlike Republicans in Congress, is a serious person. MineralMan Mar 2017 #24
Yes, Schiff is very careful with his wording. ananda Mar 2017 #30
Exactly. I think he may well be a Democrat to watch. MineralMan Mar 2017 #31
Res Ipsa Loquitor Marcuse Mar 2017 #49
Yup! burrowowl Apr 2017 #72
I want Schiff oldtime dfl_er Mar 2017 #43
Trust Mark Warner Girl powers Mar 2017 #57
thanks oldtime dfl_er Mar 2017 #59
Does Schiff know what Yates knows and what she could testify to? PearliePoo2 Mar 2017 #8
This is brilliant by Senator Schiff because it also puts more pressure on Nunes to reschedule Yates. randome Mar 2017 #11
Congressman Chasstev365 Mar 2017 #13
D'oh! randome Mar 2017 #15
I'm really surprised the he was dumb enough to reply to Schiff directly. 3_Limes Mar 2017 #12
Welcome to DU, 3_Limes! calimary Mar 2017 #55
On behalf of loyal rural Americans everywhere Mountain Mule Apr 2017 #69
Good point. calimary Apr 2017 #70
I love this man... tallahasseedem Mar 2017 #14
Isn't it interesting how one smart, well-spoken, thoughtful congressperson stands out? LuckyLib Mar 2017 #52
I have written Schiff many times thanking him for his efforts... Chakaconcarne Mar 2017 #18
A caveat. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2017 #20
Flynn could confirm that he was the bagman for the campaign bigbrother05 Mar 2017 #22
One big problem with what he said. lark Mar 2017 #21
I think it is likely that Nunes will end up being replaced. MineralMan Mar 2017 #26
I agree, though I wish the media would be making more of the "Ryan told me to go to Trump" OnDoutside Mar 2017 #27
Ryan was asked directly about Nunes coming to see him DeminPennswoods Mar 2017 #35
Did you see his interview with Kasie Hunt ? He specifically OnDoutside Mar 2017 #46
YES! Amaryllis Mar 2017 #58
Schiff is impressive and I hope he has POTUS thoughts in his future. Frustratedlady Mar 2017 #29
K & R SunSeeker Mar 2017 #32
It should be called the HOUSE UNINTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY.... for now, anyway. pangaia Mar 2017 #41
BOOM!!!! NT Adrahil Mar 2017 #45
"Link to tweet." Oh well. Atman Mar 2017 #50
Here you go: Glimmer of Hope Mar 2017 #51
This may get interesting afterall! :) dae Mar 2017 #53
K&R! red dog 1 Mar 2017 #60
Schiff is one of the good guys. I'pd never heard of him until this hearing. I don't mean this as a napi21 Mar 2017 #65
Maybe I'm looking too far down the road, and in the wrong place, but.... DFW Apr 2017 #66
Don't think you're too far off considering how 'lil Paul stiffed Nunes bigbrother05 Apr 2017 #77
So many witches, so little time to hunt mdbl Apr 2017 #68
Shiff 2020? Watalapan Apr 2017 #78

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
1. Has her testimony before House committee been re-scheduled?
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 09:48 AM
Mar 2017

Last I heard republican coverup-man Nunes cancelled the hearing, and did not re-schedule.

wishstar

(5,268 posts)
6. After reveal of WH direct role with Nunes, Schiff seemed much more confident of House investigation
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 09:58 AM
Mar 2017

Now that Nunes/WH stunt got exposed WH is allowing investigators to look at documents that Nunes saw, Schiff seemed very upbeat yesterday about committee going forward again with witnesses and hearings, although not yet rescheduled.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
36. I was interested to learn Schiff spent a few years
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 11:57 AM
Mar 2017

as an assistant U.S. attorney out in California, before entering politics. One case even involved an FBI agent selling documents to Russia. In any case, he's far from an amateur.

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
38. I find Schiff's professionalism very encouraging. Our Calif Dem delegation pleases me...
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 12:04 PM
Mar 2017

...and Schiff has become a star in the current circumstances. If and when DiFi decides to retire, I hope he runs for her seat.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
47. He may be being groomed for that.
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 01:16 PM
Mar 2017

Definitely miss our California reps. Liked but didn't appreciate ours nearly enough until...Georgia!

lostnfound

(16,173 posts)
62. I do too! But I'm pissed at how media keeps smearing him together with Nunes!!
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 07:29 PM
Mar 2017

As if Schiff was the one who was being unprofessional or partisan. The talking heads on TV keep referring to the Senate as acting like the adults in the room and the HIC as being chaotic and partisan, as if "they can't get any along".

Grr.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
73. They're influenced by conservatives among them and
Sat Apr 1, 2017, 11:51 PM
Apr 2017

afraid of what the right would do to their profits if crossed.

In spite of these attempts at equalizing, just imagine how demoralized we'd be if Nunes were ours and Schiff theirs.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
75. I find Schiff's professionalism very encouraging. Our Calif Dem delegation pleases me...
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 08:24 PM
Apr 2017

Yes indeed .....

Our Golden State makes me SO proud ...

jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
61. A couple things...
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 07:00 PM
Mar 2017

Yes, he is a very capable lawyer and his time spent as a US Attorney was distinguished.
And his original political campaign was his defeat of Clinton impeachment manager, James Rogan.

Disclaimer: Adam and his wife Eve are friends and he is my Rep.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
71. I volunteered on his campaign to defeat rogan
Sat Apr 1, 2017, 09:45 PM
Apr 2017

I was SO angry at the whole Clinton impeachment thing, and rogan needed to go.

Met Schiff and talked with him a bit, seemed very smart and serious.

Unfortunately he's no longer my rep but it's cool to see him taking a lead in this investigation/farce.

radical noodle

(8,000 posts)
76. I must say that I'd never noticed him much before
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 01:22 AM
Apr 2017

but I really do like his attitude, temperament and the careful way he chooses his words. He seems like a leader to me.

Duppers

(28,120 posts)
40. So, the hearing is not entirely up to Nunes?
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 12:13 PM
Mar 2017

The Dems can form a subcommittee but they do not have any subpoena power.

wishstar

(5,268 posts)
4. Flynn lied to FBI about his conversations with Kislyak
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 09:54 AM
Mar 2017

Then Flynn changed his answers several times as he realized he must have been caught on surveillance. So he is definitely still under criminal investigation by FBI

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
5. The thing about Schiff is that he knows all sorts of stuff
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 09:56 AM
Mar 2017

he can't make public at this point. We should listen to him closely, because of that. He's not going to release classified information that is not supposed to be released, but his comments are based on knowledge we don't always have.

Everything he says is important.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
7. I think Josh Marshall of TPM pointed out that you don't get
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 10:01 AM
Mar 2017

immunity unless you are willing to serve up someone higher on the food chain.*

There is only person higher on the food chain than Flynn.

*Perhaps also in return for ratting out other members of a conspiracy, in this case Manafort, Page, Stone, Pense?, et. al.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
19. Installment just posted - The Gravity is Strong #3
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 10:48 AM
Mar 2017

My guess, Flynn wants to help with Trump's cyber-lynching of Obama.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-gravity-is-strong-3


By Josh Marshall March 31, 2017, 8:15 AM EDT

Mike Flynn's offer to testify in exchange for immunity and the apparent lack of anyone willing to take him up on his offer raises more questions than it answers. In fact, I'm not sure it answers any questions at all. There are various relatively minor offenses Flynn could plausibly be prosecuted for - failure to file under FARA for his lobbying on behalf of the Turkish government, failure to file proper paperwork with the Pentagon for his paid speech in Russia, possibly untruthful answers to the FBI about his conversations with Russian Ambassador Kislyak. These charges in themselves would be thin gruel in terms of matters of any true public concern. But any competent lawyer would still insist on immunity before letting his client testify on anything related to these possible bad acts. Flynn's lawyer states rather grandly that his client "has a story to tell and ... very much wants to tell it." But Alex Whiting of Harvard Law School argues pretty convincingly that what we learned last night likely means either that Flynn doesn't have a story prosecutors are willing to barter for or isn't yet willing to tell it.

So who knows what the immunity request means? Far more interesting to me is how Flynn ties in to the latest revelation in the unfolding Nunes debacle.

Let's walk through this. ...........

Scruffy1

(3,255 posts)
33. I agree.
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 11:49 AM
Mar 2017

He's just part of a cover up plot. We already know he's a liar and any testimony he gives will be lies. Any testimony he gives will be evasive BS.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
63. I'm talking about in a congressional hearing.
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 08:09 PM
Mar 2017

However, no defendant is ever required to testify at all in criminal court. That is true in military courts as well. A court cannot require the defendant to give testimony against him or herself.

That is the foundation of our criminal justice system, and applies equally under the UCMJ.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
37. The VP is window dressing, has only a small Constitutional role in the Senate.
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 12:00 PM
Mar 2017

Which really comes in handy during a scandal such as happened with Iran-Contra. Bush was running the operation but was outside the chain of ommand and untouchable unless someone squealed on him.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
24. Yes. Schiff, unlike Republicans in Congress, is a serious person.
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 11:14 AM
Mar 2017

It's a pity there aren't more such people there.

I listen closely to what Schiff says, and try hard to read between the lines when he makes a statement. He's often trying to tell us something he can't actually say in public.

ananda

(28,858 posts)
30. Yes, Schiff is very careful with his wording.
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 11:33 AM
Mar 2017

This guy is smart and knows exactly what to say and how to say it
without bringing down the possibility of libel, slander, or false
accusations.

Read between the lines and you know it's bad for 45 and co.

Girl powers

(109 posts)
57. Trust Mark Warner
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 05:26 PM
Mar 2017

I live in neighboring Maryland and been following Mark Warner for quite a long time.
I have always been impressed with him. He really did a good job as gov - turned VA around fiscally. I think you can trust him.

oldtime dfl_er

(6,931 posts)
59. thanks
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 06:29 PM
Mar 2017

I know very little about Warner, except his resume which makes him appear super smart and competent. I have seen him on TV recently and I guess he doesn't strike me as someone willing to go for the jugular. I hope I'm wrong.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
8. Does Schiff know what Yates knows and what she could testify to?
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 10:01 AM
Mar 2017

Does anyone want to speculate on the 'goods' Sally Yates may have on BLOTUS?
Another question is will Nunes survive and if he does, will he even schedule Yates? Didn't he cancel all future hearings?

(I feel so sick and revolted by Paul Ryan and Nunes and such great respect for the work and character of Adam Schiff)

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
11. This is brilliant by Senator Schiff because it also puts more pressure on Nunes to reschedule Yates.
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 10:15 AM
Mar 2017

When we know Nunes is hoping the public will forget about her.
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randome

(34,845 posts)
15. D'oh!
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 10:25 AM
Mar 2017

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3_Limes

(363 posts)
12. I'm really surprised the he was dumb enough to reply to Schiff directly.
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 10:22 AM
Mar 2017

I don't think he'll do that too often in the future.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
55. Welcome to DU, 3_Limes!
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 03:44 PM
Mar 2017

Unless he's just too stupid to understand the subtleties, maybe.

Nunes strikes me as a rube without a lot of the savvy and sophistication that comes with living in a big city - which Schiff does. Most of the California delegation, including my rep, Ted Lieu, makes me proud-proud-proud. Except for idiots like Nunes, Kevin McCarthy, Tom McClintock, Darrell Issa, and Dana Rohrabacher. Unfortunately we here in the Golden State have a few lumps of dirt in with all the gold nuggets.

Mountain Mule

(1,002 posts)
69. On behalf of loyal rural Americans everywhere
Sat Apr 1, 2017, 12:27 PM
Apr 2017

There are more Dems and Progressives out standing in their fields than many urban dwellers may realize. I share your disgust with Nunes, but he strikes me as more of a complacent fat cat with insider connections than as a "rube." Lots of backroom deals over Cali water supplies and pat-pat, wink-wink. I know that I don't need to inform a Californian that water is more precious than gold in the American West, but others might like to know that Nunes is far from stupid. He who controls the water rights, controls the world in our part of the country.

Just saying.

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
52. Isn't it interesting how one smart, well-spoken, thoughtful congressperson stands out?
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 02:14 PM
Mar 2017

Shows you what a collection of toadies so many of the rest of them are . . .

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
20. A caveat.
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 10:51 AM
Mar 2017

"But please correct an inaccuracy ... (non-attorney) Josh Marshall, not withstanding, it is inaccurate to say immunity is not granted unless one can serve up someone higher on the food chain ... immunity is routinely granted to conspirators whose testimony proves a substantial element of the case, whatever that case may be. Caution dictates that we pause, as we do not know what the actual element is being sought to be proved. "

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
22. Flynn could confirm that he was the bagman for the campaign
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 11:03 AM
Mar 2017

Remember that Dear Leader stated that if Flynn wasn't doing what he lied about doing, he would have told him to do it. He was one of several folks in their camp acting as conduits to Putin and his minions. Likely he'd name Pence and others directly.

lark

(23,091 posts)
21. One big problem with what he said.
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 10:59 AM
Mar 2017

The Chair of the Committee has said there will be no further hearings on this issue in the near future. He's shut down the committee, but Schiff hasn't picked up on that fact yet. If revelations are going to come, they won't get by Nunes who is furiously busy protecting Hair Furor. Anything we learn will come from Senate committee as House version has basically been shut down. So sad that Nunes is as much a traitor as his boss.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
26. I think it is likely that Nunes will end up being replaced.
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 11:15 AM
Mar 2017

Things are getting more and more uncomfortable for Ryan right now. Nunes will step down, I believe, and quite soon.

OnDoutside

(19,953 posts)
27. I agree, though I wish the media would be making more of the "Ryan told me to go to Trump"
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 11:28 AM
Mar 2017

statement from Nunes. If that was highlighted a lot more, it would be clear that one of them is lying, putting pressure on Ryan to get rid of him.

DeminPennswoods

(15,278 posts)
35. Ryan was asked directly about Nunes coming to see him
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 11:55 AM
Mar 2017

Ryan sloughed it off as him expecting Nunes to share the info with his cmte, iirc.

OnDoutside

(19,953 posts)
46. Did you see his interview with Kasie Hunt ? He specifically
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 01:01 PM
Mar 2017

said no. Previously I did hear a non committal answer from him. I really hope someone picks it up

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
29. Schiff is impressive and I hope he has POTUS thoughts in his future.
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 11:31 AM
Mar 2017

He seems to be a straight shooter. He also seems to be enjoying the plight of Nunes...aren't we all?

Atman

(31,464 posts)
50. "Link to tweet." Oh well.
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 01:51 PM
Mar 2017

The sub line was interesting. I guess it was interesting for you to actually tell us about the tweet.

Glimmer of Hope

(5,823 posts)
51. Here you go:
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 01:59 PM
Mar 2017

"The public should learn a lot more about WHY General Flynn wants immunity when Sally Yates testifies before the House Intelligence Committee"

napi21

(45,806 posts)
65. Schiff is one of the good guys. I'pd never heard of him until this hearing. I don't mean this as a
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 11:09 PM
Mar 2017

slam. but I had to go check if his wife's name was really Eve. Adam & Eve????

I hope he becomes one of the high ranking Dems. and gets his fellow House members to adopt his lead.

DFW

(54,349 posts)
66. Maybe I'm looking too far down the road, and in the wrong place, but....
Sat Apr 1, 2017, 01:00 AM
Apr 2017

It's starting to look to me like this is Paul Ryan's clandestine campaign for the presidency--one he intends to win in typical Republican fashion, i.e. without winning an election. He gives lip service to being a loyal party man, and defending his president and VP, and then, with a sad sense of duty and patriotism, of course, lets nature take its course, removing both Trump and Pence. That leaves, according to the constitutional order of succession, the Speaker of the House, who just happens to be, in his case, why "little old me!"

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
77. Don't think you're too far off considering how 'lil Paul stiffed Nunes
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 03:23 PM
Apr 2017

He was probably vague enough when Nunes spoke with him before his big reveal to not leave his fingerprints on that fiasco.

Ryan is not an idiot, but his finesse game is lacking. If he gets the big office, it's likely his path will be rocky as well.

Don't think he could withstand the slog of a full primary/general election cycle, so he's trying to sidle in the back door.

eta: The same MO for becoming the Speaker. Let others do the heavy lifting then take the reins by default.

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