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Wed Mar 29, 2017, 06:01 PM

Elon Musk wants to connect computers to your brain so we can keep up with robots

https://www.recode.net/2017/3/27/15079226/elon-musk-computers-technology-brain-ai-artificial-intelligence-neural-lace


Apparently Elon Musk isn’t busy enough. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO has started yet another company, Neuralink, which aims to make implants for the human brain that can wirelessly interface with a computer, the Wall Street Journal reported today.

The technology, according to Musk — who brought up the idea at Recode’s Code Conference last year — is a “digital layer” located above the cortex, built into the brain. Musk calls the technology, which would intertwine computers and the human brain, “neural lace.”

Neural lace could help humans keep apace with rapidly accelerating advancements in artificial intelligence, which Musk said will cause humanity to “be left behind by a lot.” With the help of brain implants that are directly linked to computers, humans may be able to improve their brain function, or even one day download their thoughts or upload the thinking of others.

In the more near term, neural lace technology could be used to treat brain diseases like epilepsy or Parkinson’s.

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Reply Elon Musk wants to connect computers to your brain so we can keep up with robots (Original post)
Bill USA Mar 2017 OP
True Dough Mar 2017 #1
LisaM Mar 2017 #2
Loki Liesmith Mar 2017 #3
Bill USA Mar 2017 #7
LisaM Mar 2017 #9
Blue_true Mar 2017 #19
LisaM Mar 2017 #21
Blue_true Mar 2017 #23
LisaM Mar 2017 #24
Calculating Mar 2017 #12
LisaM Mar 2017 #14
Blue_true Mar 2017 #18
Ezior Mar 2017 #4
OnDoutside Mar 2017 #5
Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #6
Calculating Mar 2017 #8
0rganism Mar 2017 #10
Buns_of_Fire Mar 2017 #11
Volaris Mar 2017 #13
Warren DeMontague Mar 2017 #15
MineralMan Mar 2017 #16
Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #17
MineralMan Mar 2017 #20
Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #22
kskiska Mar 2017 #25
Docreed2003 Mar 2017 #26
Initech Mar 2017 #27
hunter Mar 2017 #28

Response to Bill USA (Original post)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 06:04 PM

1. But I don't want Russians hacking into my brain!!

They'd be mighty disappointed anyway!

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Response to Bill USA (Original post)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 06:05 PM

2. I'm sorry, but he creeps me out.

I hate most of his ideas. He's like the least organic person in the whole world.

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Response to LisaM (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 06:51 PM

3. I'd work for him in a second

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Response to LisaM (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 07:05 PM

7. what's amatter, don't want to be a Borg??? Mhoo-hoo-ha-ha-ha!

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Response to Bill USA (Reply #7)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 07:07 PM

9. LOL, nope!

And I don't want to ride around in a driverless car or go coast to coast in a big tube without seeing any scenery and I don't think we should warm up Mars for settlement, either!

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Response to LisaM (Reply #9)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 08:35 PM

19. Hyper link is good for commuting from big city to big city

in highly populated corridors like NYC to Washington DC, but even then a lot of beautiful scenery and history is missed. I can't see myself going from San Francisco to LA in something other that a surface based train, a car or an airplane with windows. A train running in a high tech tube, NO.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #19)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 08:41 PM

21. I don't even like going on the Seattle Link Light Rail

It's eerie, you get absolutely no sense of where you are.

This is a beautiful country, and I don't understand not slowing down to enjoy it. A few months ago I was flying from Michigan to Washington on a fall afternoon, and you can imagine the scenery - the Great Lakes! The Mississippi River! The Rocky Mountains! The Cascades!

And every flipping person by a window had the shade pulled down and was on a device.

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Response to LisaM (Reply #21)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 08:57 PM

23. I have flown into the Pacific Northwest.

Anyone who has never been there and are on a plane flying in MUST sit at a window and put the devices away. The scenery is stunning.

BUT. I have driven in and around Seattle. On a business day, I would take the train, no scenery and all. If not working, I would be on a bicycle or car heading southeast toward Mount Ranier.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #23)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 08:59 PM

24. I prefer the bus.

The link light rail out to the airport is okay scenery-wise (even though it takes a very circuitous route and drops me off a half mile from my gate!) But the newest extension that goes to the University of Washington is just dark and tube-y.

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Response to LisaM (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 07:10 PM

12. There's something 'not quite right' about him IMO

I can appreciate a healthy level of ambition, but he seems like the kind of guy who's one step away from becoming a mad scientist or authoritarian leader who takes control of the world for 'our own good'. He talks about how one day we'll necessarily need to give up manually driven cars to embrace a future of self-driving cars, and now this neural lace stuff. It's too much. It's like he wants to fundamentally change our society and what it means to be an independent human being.

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Response to Calculating (Reply #12)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 07:25 PM

14. I guess he was bullied as a kid.

That might explain some of it.

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Response to Calculating (Reply #12)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 08:26 PM

18. You are on to something.

The problem with Artificial Intelligence once it becomes hyper advanced isn't the AI but evil humans who create the AI. Advanced AI and advanced mechanical assemblies will make intelligent machines capable of suppressing or killing 90-95% of humans, the other 5% of humans will likely be involved in making the mechanical assemblies and AI, a small percentage of those humans are likely to fall into the evil psychopath category, people that think ruling over all humans is a good thing.

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Response to Bill USA (Original post)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 06:56 PM

4. I like Tesla cars, solar PV, hyperloop and all that but this is just sick!

Don't do it.

What could possibly go wrong? Also, I hate how Elon Musk is now a mascot for Trump.

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Response to Bill USA (Original post)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 06:57 PM

5. Or butts, in the case of Trump supporters ....

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Response to Bill USA (Original post)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 07:02 PM

6. looks like he's read some William Gibson

 





https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jul/28/william-gibson-neuromancer-cyberpunk-books

Prescience can be tedious for science-fiction writers. Being proven right about a piece of technology or a trend distracts from the main aim of the work: to show us how we live now. William Gibson knows this as well as anyone. Since the late 70s, the American-born novelist has been pulling at the loose threads of our culture to imagine what will come out. He has been right about a great deal, but mainly about the shape of the internet and how it filters down to the lowest strata of society.

In Neuromancer, published 30 years ago this month, Gibson popularised the idea of cyberspace: a "consensual hallucination" created by millions of connected computers. This network can be "jacked" into, while in the real world characters flit from Tokyo to the Sprawl, an urban agglomeration running down the east coast of the US. Gritty urban clinics carry out horrendous sounding plastic surgery. A junkie-hacker, Case, is coaxed into hacking the system of a major corporation. What once seemed impossibly futuristic is now eerily familiar.

"Neuromancer," says novelist and blogger Cory Doctorow, "remains a vividly imagined allegory for the world of the 1980s, when the first seeds of massive, globalised wealth-disparity were planted, and when the inchoate rumblings of technological rebellion were first felt. A generation later, we're living in a future that is both nothing like the Gibson future and instantly recognisable as its less stylish, less romantic cousin. Instead of zaibatsus [large conglomerates] run by faceless salarymen, we have doctrinaire thrusting young neocons and neoliberals who want to treat everything from schools to hospitals as businesses."


On its release, Neuromancer won the "big three" for science fiction: the Nebula, Philip K Dick and Hugo awards. It sold more than 6m copies and launched an entire aesthetic: cyberpunk. In predicting this future, Gibson can be said to have helped shape our conception of the internet. Other novelists are held in higher esteem by literary critics, but few can claim to have had such a wide-ranging influence. The Wachowskis made The Matrix by mashing Gibson's vision together with that of French philosopher Jean Baudrillard. Stieg Larsson's Lisbeth Salander is a facsimile of Molly Millions, the femme fatale in Neuromancer. Every social network, online game or hacking scandal takes us a step closer to the universe Gibson imagined in 1984.

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Response to Bill USA (Original post)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 07:06 PM

8. Not only no, but HELL NO!

I love what TSLA is doing with green energy, EV's, battery tech, etc. I love what SpaceX is doing to help us get back to space exploration. Putting electronics into people's brains to 'enhance' them is taking things too damn far though. If we ever get to the point in our society where people are 'upgrading' their brains with electronics I'll want off this world.

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Response to Bill USA (Original post)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 07:09 PM

10. maybe we're on schedule to hit the GITS future by 2030 after all


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Response to Bill USA (Original post)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 07:09 PM

11. Moving a mouse is the only exercise some people get!

Before you know it, our arms and legs would become vestigial organs, all body mass would start settling towards the butt, and we'd all look like those roly-poly dolls -- you know, like Rump.

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Response to Bill USA (Original post)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 07:16 PM

13. Oh good...now my ISP can PRE-record by browsing data,

and sell it so I can know what to buy for myself tomorrow.
I'm so relieved I hate having to think about...Things.

(On Edit) maybe today was just the wrong day for the announcement..

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Response to Bill USA (Original post)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 07:27 PM

15. Cool.

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Response to Bill USA (Original post)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 08:09 PM

16. USB port on your neck?

Read a book with something like that in it. No thanks, please.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #16)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 08:14 PM

17. this? post number 6?

 

over thirty years ago it came out, yes

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Response to Gabi Hayes (Reply #17)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 08:38 PM

20. Yes, exactly!

That was it Neuromancer.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #20)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 08:48 PM

22. much more since then. my favorite is Virtual Light.

 

great interview with him in the Paris Review, btw.

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Response to Bill USA (Original post)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 09:00 PM

25. Didn't Ben Carson

say he could do something similar?

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Response to Bill USA (Original post)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 09:12 PM

26. The next step would be this...



Once you merge a human mind with an AI the next step would be authoritarian control and assimilation....sorry, I don't need my mind to live forever and I don't want to become a Cyberman.

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Response to Bill USA (Original post)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 09:15 PM

27. So they can upload advertising directly to our brains? Fuck that!

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Response to Bill USA (Original post)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 09:58 PM

28. Crap, I don't even want a smart phone.


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