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Tue Mar 28, 2017, 10:39 PM

Could a 2020 Democratic Ticket that has a person from MA and NC be more victorious for Democrats

compared to the 2004 Democratic Ticket?
The 2004 was Kerry-MA/Edwards-NC.
2020 is going to be with Warren-MA/Cooper-NC.
Warren is more popular with the Democratic base than Kerry was in 2004.

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Reply Could a 2020 Democratic Ticket that has a person from MA and NC be more victorious for Democrats (Original post)
nkpolitics1212 Mar 2017 OP
JHan Mar 2017 #1
Alice11111 Mar 2017 #2
Hekate Mar 2017 #3
bathroommonkey76 Mar 2017 #4
grantcart Mar 2017 #11
bathroommonkey76 Mar 2017 #16
hedda_foil Mar 2017 #5
unc70 Mar 2017 #6
jaysunb Mar 2017 #8
Hekate Mar 2017 #9
mwooldri Mar 2017 #7
nkpolitics1212 Mar 2017 #10
mwooldri Mar 2017 #18
nkpolitics1212 Mar 2017 #20
Crunchy Frog Mar 2017 #12
nkpolitics1212 Mar 2017 #21
Lee-Lee Mar 2017 #13
sarah FAILIN Mar 2017 #14
Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #15
DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2017 #17
grantcart Mar 2017 #19

Response to nkpolitics1212 (Original post)

Tue Mar 28, 2017, 10:40 PM

1. I don't know, but I know for sure I'm gonna buy a delicious burger tomorrow..

Wednesdays are my cheat days.

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Response to nkpolitics1212 (Original post)

Tue Mar 28, 2017, 10:44 PM

2. I love Warren, but she is polling at about 27pc, less than DT. We need a certain winner, not taking

any chances this time.

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Response to nkpolitics1212 (Original post)

Tue Mar 28, 2017, 10:46 PM

3. Yawn. What about 2018?

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Response to nkpolitics1212 (Original post)

Tue Mar 28, 2017, 10:50 PM

4. 2020 could be John Edwards comeback year!

 

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Response to bathroommonkey76 (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 01:41 AM

11. Now you have done it


His next offering will be a thoughtful query about the future of a Edwards/Weiner ticket and how getting the sex addict demographic will give us a lock in Nevada, Utah and Arkansas.

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Response to grantcart (Reply #11)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 09:45 AM

16. +100

 

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Response to nkpolitics1212 (Original post)

Tue Mar 28, 2017, 10:53 PM

5. It's not like counting cards, or jigsaw puzzles, you know.

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Response to nkpolitics1212 (Original post)

Tue Mar 28, 2017, 11:03 PM

6. Why do you keep posting these absurd scenarios?

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Response to unc70 (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 28, 2017, 11:32 PM

8. Need you ask ? n/t

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Response to unc70 (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 28, 2017, 11:36 PM

9. It's boring where he is

So boring

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Response to nkpolitics1212 (Original post)

Tue Mar 28, 2017, 11:12 PM

7. Let's see how Cooper's 1st term pans out.

2020 will be his re-election year after all. If he does well enough, he'll run for re-election.

Cooper would work well as a running mate in 2024 in the event somehow Trump & Co steal or get selected in 2020 for another 4.

Though of course, I would vote for a Warren/Cooper or even Cooper/Warren ticket.


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Response to mwooldri (Reply #7)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 01:10 AM

10. Warren/Cooper ticket could solve two problems regarding why Trump won.

Trump won because of economic dislocation, Warren has been an advocate for the working class prior and during her Senate career.
Trump won because of social dislocation among white men. Cooper can help with the uneducated white male vote.
Warren/Cooper could argue that the Trump/Pence administration is the real elitist surrounding themselves with wealthy corporate CEOS and pandering to the wealthy donors.

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Response to nkpolitics1212 (Reply #10)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 10:13 AM

18. Only problem with this ticket is Cooper.

And it is purely from a logistical view, not idealogical.

2020 is also a re-election year for Cooper. If Cooper does a good job these next four years, we don't want to hand the NC governor's job to an R and have him not re-run. 2024 is the end of his second term and he can't run in 2024. A presidential run in 2024 would be possible then.

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Response to mwooldri (Reply #18)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 07:56 PM

20. Could NC AG Josh Stein run for Governor in 2020 if Cooper were to vacate to run on the

Democratic Ticket? Does NC state law allow presidential nominees to run for re-election for their current job? The problem with this situation is the current NC Lt Governor is a Republican Dan Forest. Roy Cooper waited to long to run for Governor. Cooper should have ran in 2012, he could have won the primary and defeat McCrory in 2012 and 2016. What about the US House members that were redistricted out of office ie Mike McIntyre, Larry Kisell, Heath Schuler, or Brad Miller? Could any of these guys run for Governor or be Warren's VP runningmate?

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Response to nkpolitics1212 (Original post)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 04:48 AM

12. Warren is from Oklahoma and Texas, moving to the east coast as an older adult.

I would suspect that she is better equipped to understand and communicate with people in traditionally red parts of the country, and would certainly have wider appeal than a Massachusetts native. JMHO.

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Response to Crunchy Frog (Reply #12)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 08:19 PM

21. Speaking of Texas-Beto O'Rourke announced he is running for US Senate in 2018 against Ted Cruz.

Assuming that O'Rourke wins the Democratic primary, he will face and uphill battle in the general. If he narrowly loses to Cruz in 2018, he could make another uphill battle US Senate run in 2020 against Cornyn or he can be Warren's VP runningmate in 2020.

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Response to nkpolitics1212 (Original post)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 06:10 AM

13. Coming from NC- don't go with Cooper

 

He barely pulled off a win here and is struggling so far to do anything. I doubt he gets a second term unless he starts pulling some shit off.

He keeps waffling on HB2 repeal and has torpedoed several chances at a repeal because they were not 100% perfect and I'm still not sure how that will play out in the long game. I know a few trans friends who are starting to say they feel like they are being used as a political football held under the bad law longer for political reasons when the chance to repeal it with a few far less bad side issues attached came and was discarded. They feel the repeal should have happened and then the few much smaller bad parts of the repeal been fought over instead of a full no and leaving the law in place.

He is also a HORRIBLE speaker. Slow, monotone, boring. Unless your already deeply liberal and excited by his ideas you won't leave a campaign event with him energized or pumped up. Nobody leaves a Roy Cooper event feeling energized.

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Response to nkpolitics1212 (Original post)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 06:21 AM

14. I'm more concerned with their policies

Than their hometown. We need someone that can ignite the people more than a geographical location.

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Response to nkpolitics1212 (Original post)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 07:31 AM

15. who cares....2018 2018...

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Response to nkpolitics1212 (Original post)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 09:46 AM

17. We need more hypothetical match ups.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #17)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 10:48 AM

19. How about some unknown Northern Governor matched with an obscure but charismatic mayor

or cousins of either?

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