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By trying to silence Sally Yates, the Trump WH just made her testimony FAR more important. (Original Post) kpete Mar 2017 OP
Public Truth Tribunal Achilleaze Mar 2017 #1
That's what the hearings are supposed to be. We need a Special Prosecutor, several actually. L. Coyote Mar 2017 #5
+ 1,000 Achilleaze Mar 2017 #6
I think this is relevant to Yates' testimony and maybe it can be invoked. shraby Mar 2017 #2
Yes I remember this FakeNoose Mar 2017 #3
Here is Nixon with the tapes. They erased 18 minutes before turning them over. L. Coyote Mar 2017 #7
As much as I hated Nixon FakeNoose Mar 2017 #12
And who killed the Kennedy brothers? L. Coyote Mar 2017 #15
He deliberately undermined the Paris Peace talks... hwmnbn Mar 2017 #17
and all the southeast Asians who paid with their lives. RIP - nt KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #19
Yes... hwmnbn Mar 2017 #20
You sorely need to review the history of the 1968 campaign and, KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #18
Watch Spicer's press conference coming up in a few minutes pinboy3niner Mar 2017 #4
Spicer: WH never blocked her testimony pinboy3niner Mar 2017 #8
Then he will welcome it when she appears before the Senate Committee, right? Tom Rinaldo Mar 2017 #9
Sally Yates is about to be shot volstork Mar 2017 #10
yates is essentially muzzled.... beachbum bob Mar 2017 #11
Other people at the FBI already know what she knows FakeNoose Mar 2017 #13
Very suspicious mcar Mar 2017 #14
would the Senate Intelligence bdamomma Mar 2017 #16

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
5. That's what the hearings are supposed to be. We need a Special Prosecutor, several actually.
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 01:16 PM
Mar 2017

One for #TrumpRussia, one for Sessions' perjury, one for Flynn's lying, and the list is growing.



#TrumpRussia 50 tweet MEGA-THREAD by Seth Abramson

Seth Abramson 54 tweet MEGA-THREAD: "Source E" is the Deep Throat





shraby

(21,946 posts)
2. I think this is relevant to Yates' testimony and maybe it can be invoked.
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 12:41 PM
Mar 2017

Someone else brought this in:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Nixon

Less than three weeks after oral arguments, the Court issued its decision. The justices struggled to write an opinion that all eight could agree to. The stakes were so high, in that the tapes most likely contained evidence of criminal wrongdoing by the President and his men, that they wanted no dissent. All contributed to the opinion and Chief Justice Burger delivered the unanimous decision. After ruling that the Court could indeed resolve the matter and that Jaworski had proven a "sufficient likelihood that each of the tapes contains conversations relevant to the offenses charged in the indictment," the Court went to the main issue of executive privilege. The Court rejected Nixon's claim to an "absolute, unqualified Presidential privilege of immunity from judicial process under all circumstances." It held that a claim of Presidential privilege as to materials subpoenaed for use in a criminal trial cannot override the needs of the judicial process, if that claim is based, not on the ground that military or diplomatic secrets are implicated, but merely on the ground of a generalized interest in confidentiality. Nixon was ordered to deliver the subpoenaed materials to the District Court.

FakeNoose

(32,356 posts)
3. Yes I remember this
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 12:52 PM
Mar 2017

It wouldn't have been an issue, until after it was discovered that the tapes even existed. Nixon had tape-recorded every meeting in the Oval Office including the times when they discussed the coverup of the Watergate dirty tricks. (Payoffs etc.)

It was accidentally mentioned during the Watergate hearing that Nixon even had the tapes. Suddenly all hell broke loose and this SCOTUS ruling meant that he had to turn them over to the hearing. That was the end for Nixon, he resigned pretty soon after that.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
7. Here is Nixon with the tapes. They erased 18 minutes before turning them over.
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 01:20 PM
Mar 2017

You have to wonder how much worse Watergate would have been with those 18 minutes in evidence.

FakeNoose

(32,356 posts)
12. As much as I hated Nixon
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 01:51 PM
Mar 2017

... he was never under suspicion of treason.
He never colluded with the leader of an enemy country.
He did have some scruples.

The orange Cheeto has none!



L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
15. And who killed the Kennedy brothers?
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 01:56 PM
Mar 2017

I wouldn't cheer Nixon on like that until you hear the missing 18 minutes.

hwmnbn

(4,278 posts)
17. He deliberately undermined the Paris Peace talks...
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 04:41 PM
Mar 2017

extending the Viet Nam war for 5 more deadly years.

That's worse than treasonous given all the soldiers that died unnecessarily.

Fuck Nixon and Fuck Drumpf! Two sides of the same Republican coin.

hwmnbn

(4,278 posts)
20. Yes...
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 05:49 PM
Mar 2017

the extended war also did much damage to our domestic politics. Those effects are still being felt today.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
18. You sorely need to review the history of the 1968 campaign and,
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 04:57 PM
Mar 2017

specifically, the Nixon campaign's efforts to undermine the Vietnam Peace talks by using Kisswinger as emmisary and Claire Chennault as an intermediary to convince Thieu not to play ball (with the promise he would receive better terms in a Nixon administration). LBJ had the goods on Nixon too and debated whether to go public with them, in the end deciding not to because the evidence had been obtained through illegal wiretaps. So LBJ's decision not to dime out Tricky Dick only cost the U.S. another 30,000-some soldiers' lives and upwards of another 1 million southeast Asians.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
4. Watch Spicer's press conference coming up in a few minutes
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 12:57 PM
Mar 2017

I bet he'll say that the WH never tried to block Yates from testifying...just invited her to consult with them so they could make a determination on privilege.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
8. Spicer: WH never blocked her testimony
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 01:23 PM
Mar 2017

"I hope she testifies. I'll look forward to that. ... We have no problem with her testifying."

I suspect his fingers were crossed behind his back.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
9. Then he will welcome it when she appears before the Senate Committee, right?
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 01:28 PM
Mar 2017

That's good to know. We have that on record now.

volstork

(5,394 posts)
10. Sally Yates is about to be shot
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 01:33 PM
Mar 2017

into the stratosphere. She will be a Democratic golden girl along with Warren.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
11. yates is essentially muzzled....
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 01:51 PM
Mar 2017

until she can go on the record all the guessing is still guessing

FakeNoose

(32,356 posts)
13. Other people at the FBI already know what she knows
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 01:53 PM
Mar 2017

... just find the investigators and get them to talk.

Also Yates gave a face-to-face report while Obama was still in office.


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