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Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:32 PM

Charge him with TREASON and seize all ASSETS

He needs every possible charged levelled against him and due to money laundering, his assets need to be seized. There needs to be a VERY, VERY STRONG MESSAGE SENT so that this never, ever, happens again. And it needs to be done quickly.

He is illegitimately occupying the White House. He is no president.

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Reply Charge him with TREASON and seize all ASSETS (Original post)
Sculpin Beauregard Mar 20 OP
SummerSnow Mar 20 #1
brooklynite Mar 20 #2
Sculpin Beauregard Mar 20 #5
truebluegreen Mar 20 #9
shraby Mar 20 #15
truebluegreen Mar 20 #16
onenote Mar 21 #21
MFM008 Mar 20 #12
louis c Mar 20 #17
brooklynite Mar 20 #18
louis c Mar 21 #19
onenote Mar 20 #3
KPN Mar 20 #8
onenote Mar 20 #13
Luciferous Mar 21 #20
SoCalMusicLover Mar 20 #4
Sculpin Beauregard Mar 20 #6
FSogol Mar 20 #10
truebluegreen Mar 20 #7
BSdetect Mar 20 #11
Motley13 Mar 20 #14
UCmeNdc Mar 21 #22
MoonRiver Mar 21 #23
BSdetect Mar 21 #24

Response to Sculpin Beauregard (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:35 PM

1. I bet Intelligence is looking at his taxes now.

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Response to Sculpin Beauregard (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:36 PM

2. You have witnesses, do you?

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:44 PM

5. the lawyers can fight about the particularities,

which I am sure they will, but this stands out:

or in adhering to their enemies. The whole nation saw orange napoleon invite Russia to hack Clinton's emails. That is asking a foreign power to interfere in an election. The whole nation saw it! And that's just what the unwashed masses know, as of right now. Wait until the investigation is done.

Treason.

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Response to Sculpin Beauregard (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:55 PM

9. We are not at war, ergo not "Enemies" with Russia,

 

Ergo not "Treason."

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Response to truebluegreen (Reply #9)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 06:43 PM

15. Espionage then. The penalties are as great.

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Response to shraby (Reply #15)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 06:47 PM

16. Got no problem with that.

 

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Response to Sculpin Beauregard (Reply #5)

Tue Mar 21, 2017, 08:24 AM

21. Have you written to Democratic leaders demanding they introduce a declaration of war against Russia?

Have you demanded that Russia be named an "enemy" under the Trading With The Enemies Act? That diplomatic relations between the US and Russia be severed? That travel restrictions be imposed so that the quarter million Americans who visit Russia each year for tourism and business (and the large number of Russians coming to the US for the same purposes) are prevented from doing so? That the billions of dollars in bilateral trade between the countries be suspended?

If not why not? Because without those indicia that a state of war exists between Russia and the US, yelling "Treason" is just a lot of noise.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 05:18 PM

12. Sometime witnesses are

Evidence on paper. Payoffs for example. The money has to go somewhere.
Maggot is guilty of possible high crimes AND or misdemeanors.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 06:50 PM

17. This is twice that you made this point

and both times it made no sense.

We all know the Constitution and the definition of Treason.

This would not be treason. It would technically be espionage. Just like the accusations against the Rosenberg's.

But everyone refers to the Rosenberg's as traitors. It's not the Constitutional definition, but it is engrained in our vernacular.

Guess what? You can be executed for espionage just like treason. And, in the end, you're just as dead.

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Response to louis c (Reply #17)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 08:16 PM

18. ...and if the OP had called for espionage charges, I would have stayed silent.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #18)

Tue Mar 21, 2017, 07:19 AM

19. Let me see if I can explain this to you so that we both agree

Treason is not only a law defined in the US Constitution, but an act that has an English language dictionary definition.

Treason; noun | trea·son |ˈtrē-zən

Definition of treason

1. The betrayal of a trust; treachery

2. The offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance or to kill or personally injure the sovereign or the sovereign's family.


As a result, espionage can be an act of treason by definition, but not under the Constitutional application of the law. Certainly, you would agree that if members of the Trump campaign conspired and colluded with Russia to advance a Russian foreign policy agenda in exchange for media leaks that caused the defeat of Hillary Clinton, that they not only broke laws, but they also betrayed their country and a "trust" that we all owe to our nation.
I know that's what I meant when you posted your same remark when I used treason and I think that the OP here is using the word "treason" the same way.


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Response to Sculpin Beauregard (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:39 PM

3. We're all pissed as hell

But that doesn't give us license to make up law and remedies.

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Response to onenote (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:54 PM

8. No, but that didn't stop Trump and the GOP from

yelling "Lock her up" for the past 2 years. I know it goes against our basic grain, but maybe it's time Democrats start playing the same game for political gain.

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Response to KPN (Reply #8)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 05:22 PM

13. Remember -- 3 million more votes were cast for our candidate.

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Response to onenote (Reply #13)

Tue Mar 21, 2017, 07:43 AM

20. And what did that get us?

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Response to Sculpin Beauregard (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:43 PM

4. Good Luck With That

I swear, if I had a penny for every post I read at DU, saying that Shrub's days were numbered, I'd be a millionaire.

Seriously....it's nice to dream, but I'm sure Drumpf is going nowhere. Except perhaps to Florida every weekend.

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Response to SoCalMusicLover (Reply #4)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:53 PM

6. Trump's 'presidency'

is orders of magnitude more shady with entanglements than Dubya's. It's off the charts in terms of corruption and incompetence. And it's only a few months in!

The damage is insane, already. He will be removed, of that I am sure. Hopefully sooner than later.

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Response to SoCalMusicLover (Reply #4)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:55 PM

10. Do they know it's Fritzmas time at all?

Sing along everyone....

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Response to Sculpin Beauregard (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:54 PM

7. Magical thinking.

 

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Response to Sculpin Beauregard (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 05:14 PM

11. Yes, fix him for good.

I'd bring back stoning just for him.

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Response to BSdetect (Reply #11)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 05:34 PM

14. how about burying with just his head above the sand

& no chance of doing whatever he does to his phony hair.


that would really humiliate him, the hair, the hair!!!!!!


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Response to Sculpin Beauregard (Original post)

Tue Mar 21, 2017, 08:31 AM

22. The solution to the Donald Trump actions is very simple

You appoint a very competent independent prosecutor and give that prosecutor subpoena powers. You have the prosecutor hold a very comprehensive, thoroughly documented, independent investigation. The prosecutor's job will be to uphold the law and bring charges against anyone that broke the law plus bring back complete credibility to the American election system. It has to be done this way to bring a resolution to the problem plus ensure that the problem does not occur again.

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Response to Sculpin Beauregard (Original post)

Tue Mar 21, 2017, 08:32 AM

23. I just want him and his grifter kids GONE from our government!

IF the FBI comes up with reasons to charge him with treason, that would speed up the removal process, but I think he's toast anyway. Most importantly, we need to take back at least the House, so impeachment proceedings can begin immediately after the 2018 mid-terms.

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Response to Sculpin Beauregard (Original post)

Tue Mar 21, 2017, 09:14 AM

24. K&R

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