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Fri Mar 17, 2017, 10:01 AM

there were a couple posts a while back admonishing us for using the word "Deplorable"...

still. That we should be careful the words we use or something or other.

And since then what?

Trump crazies continue to attack folks going about their damn business living life. In one case, an Indian man was murdered.

They continue to cheer Trump's bullshit at his post victory "rallies", they love the fact people are being detained and want him to go through with his real goal of a muslim ban - they were doing this shit as recently as this week when Trump was in Michigan.

Am I still supposed to not call these people deplorable ?

You know, the hypocrisy stinks.

Again, I want people to remember that Obama had to end a friendship with Jeremiah Wright because of some crazy shit Wright SAID, apologize a zillion times, meanwhile Trump is all up in our faces, cosplaying Mussolini, while being advised by a man whose intellectual heroes were anti-semites and whose wet dream is global authoritarianism.

"Deplorable" was one of the truest statements in politics, best way to fight it is to call it exactly what it is.

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Reply there were a couple posts a while back admonishing us for using the word "Deplorable"... (Original post)
JHan Mar 2017 OP
ExciteBike66 Mar 2017 #1
yallerdawg Mar 2017 #2
JHan Mar 2017 #3
NCjack Mar 2017 #16
unblock Mar 2017 #4
JHan Mar 2017 #5
ProfessorGAC Mar 2017 #12
unblock Mar 2017 #19
dalton99a Mar 2017 #18
mythology Mar 2017 #6
JHan Mar 2017 #8
brer cat Mar 2017 #17
Coventina Mar 2017 #14
LOL Lib Mar 2017 #7
lunatica Mar 2017 #9
Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #10
JHan Mar 2017 #11
Coventina Mar 2017 #15
easttexaslefty Mar 2017 #13

Response to JHan (Original post)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 10:03 AM

1. It was said that,

for some reason, we want these idiots on our side....

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Response to JHan (Original post)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 10:08 AM

2. Deplorable:

Deserving strong condemnation; shockingly bad in quality.

Synonyms: Disgraceful, shameful, dishonorable, unworthy, inexcusable, unpardonable, unforgivable, reprehensible, despicable, abominable, contemptible, execrable, heinous, beyond the pale.

Deplorable? Damn fine word, all things considered!

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Response to yallerdawg (Reply #2)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 10:10 AM

3. Right! In the fullness of time, I hope folks understand that appeasing ..

or sugar coating what is reprehensible is a sure fire way to kill whatever good exists in this country.

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Response to yallerdawg (Reply #2)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 12:03 PM

16. Please add this word to your list: coprophagist

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Response to JHan (Original post)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 10:10 AM

4. hillary's mildly impolitic statement was somehow deemed equivalent to donnie's barrage of hate

how many people and groups of people did he say horrible things about?

and donnie and the republicans leveled their hate against people who had little to no choice about what they were hated for -- for being minorities, women, poor, immigrants, etc.; whereas hillary's "deplorables" remark was leveled against people who made odious and offensive choices, to be bigots.

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Response to unblock (Reply #4)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 10:13 AM

5. Yes! the attack was completely different. I don't think my rage about this will ever subside.

it's the most fucked up example of privilege.

Trump attacked minorities for their identity of immigrant, or mexican or muslim, while "deplorable" is a criticism of character.

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Response to unblock (Reply #4)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 11:03 AM

12. Didn't She Also Say "Half"

So, why do 100% of them think it means them?

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Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #12)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 12:52 PM

19. funny thing is, they take pride in being "politically incorrect", which inherently means

that many others will find their opinions "deplorable".

so, why they think being called "deplorable" for those positions and statements that they know damn well offend others is beyond me.

then again, i guess that explains why they quickly chose to wear the "deplorable" label as a badge of honor.

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Response to unblock (Reply #4)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 12:30 PM

18. +1

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Response to JHan (Original post)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 10:28 AM

6. Nobody has said you need to play patty cake with every Trump supporter

 

That's a blatant strawman. Good job on beating it up.

What some of us are saying is that treating everybody who voted for Trump as though they are an open avowed racist isn't helpful or accurate. The distinction isn't particularly subtle. If you'd like an example of why name calling and demonizing isn't helpful, has a Republican ever changed your mind by calling you a tree hugging America hating libtard?

If instead you take a larger view, you'd see that this is a human trait to be afraid of the "other". It's not just racist Republicans that have this, or even just Americans. Political support for the welfare state in Sweden has dropped as immigration has increased. If instead of devolving into separate camps of us versus them (whether Democrats and Republicans, evangelicals versus non-evangeligals, Muslims versus non-Muslims, etc) doesn't help. It just makes people sink into their positions.

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Response to mythology (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 10:37 AM

8. It was never a strawman.

And it never will be. It goes to the heart of Trump's appeal, which curiously, many even on the left want to avoid which is whiteness.

I can sympathise with economic conditions hurting the vulnerable, but there is much to be despised in a world view that scapegoats immigrants and sees diversity as a threat.

Trump has elevated a type of politics that will make us poorer, and more corrupt while feeding hate and meanness to his most rabid supporters. It is deplorable, it is ALL deplorable.

It's unbelievable the walking on eggshells around this...Ask yourself why you're so keen on excusing away people who enthusiastically support it?

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Response to JHan (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 12:27 PM

17. +1000

You are spot on, JHan. If someone isn't a racist or bigot they wouldn't vote for one for President. I don't care what excuses they offer, they knew what they were getting and they voted for him anyway. They are sleeping in the same bed now.

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Response to mythology (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 11:03 AM

14. Everyone who voted for Trump voted for racism. In my book, that makes them racist.

And, that's a moral failure.

And yes, I am afraid of racists.

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Response to JHan (Original post)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 10:30 AM

7. My friend, imho you should call them whatever you want.

I try not to offend anyone, but there are Trump supporters that are truly worthy of being called deplorables.

Is setting fire to an AA church not a deplorable act? Is painting "Trump" on the charred wall of the burned out church not a deplorable act?


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Response to JHan (Original post)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 10:59 AM

9. I objected to someone claiming a rapist is the same as a deplorable

Otherwise I agree with you.

The DU poster's title was a woman who fought off a deplorable and the article was about a women who fought off a rapist. Deplorable was not mentioned in the article.



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Response to JHan (Original post)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 11:00 AM

10. It does no good to call *any* group of people 'deplorables'...

 

It's name calling and it is immature.

Just call them Republicans - that's the worst that they can be 'called'.

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Response to Talk Is Cheap (Reply #10)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 11:02 AM

11. yeah it does a lot of good calling groups deplorable..

history is littered with examples of groups who were deplorable.

but I did lol at your republican jab.

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Response to Talk Is Cheap (Reply #10)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 11:04 AM

15. Personally, I just call them racists.

But, racists are deplorable, so I really don't see the problem.

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Response to JHan (Original post)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 11:03 AM

13. They are deplorable

Every last one of them

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