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Thu Mar 16, 2017, 02:55 PM

TPM/Bloomberg following the money from Russia to Trump

Link: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/follow-the-money--4

The Bloomberg story is embedded in TPM's story. The bottom line is a series of Russians/Ukrainians, etc first buying units in Trump buildings, then moving to financing them.

I personally agree with Josh Marshall that this is the story rather than looking for something more, but I think it's more than just a symbiotic business relationship in that Trump is so beholden to Russian interests that he is subject to being manipulated because he's so in debt to Putin's oligarch friends. I believe Trump understands Putin could pull the rug out from under his finances if he wants.

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Reply TPM/Bloomberg following the money from Russia to Trump (Original post)
DeminPennswoods Mar 2017 OP
tinrobot Mar 2017 #1
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MedusaX Mar 2017 #3

Response to DeminPennswoods (Original post)

Thu Mar 16, 2017, 03:03 PM

1. It's always about the money.

...or in this case the debt.

I think you're right. He's simply in hock to the Russians and can't wiggle out of it.

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Original post)

Thu Mar 16, 2017, 03:08 PM

2. Way more than just buying a few condos

Russians have lent huge amounts of money to Trump when no American bank would touch him.
He'd already declared bankruptcy 4 or 5 times, and he needed to borrow more dough to keep his businesses afloat.
So the Russians staked him. It was probably Putin or else Putin's (Russian mafia) oligarch buddies.

Also the Feds are close to proving that Trump's casinos have laundered Russian mafia money. This probably happened around the same time too. It's hard to prove unless an employee or somebody involved squeals.

Thirdly the Russians hacked our election (with Putin calling the shots) and made sure that Hillary lost. They probably also fixed the Republican primaries to get Trump the nomination.

It's all coming out in little pieces - but smart people like Rachel Maddow are putting it together for us.


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Response to DeminPennswoods (Original post)

Thu Mar 16, 2017, 03:45 PM

3. Worse than Pee hooker Kompromat

It is obvious that someone owns 45

I am of the opinion that 45 & family have been earning their keep/financial support by acting as high end "mules" for Russia & Azerbaijan & others whether it be money, drugs, black market goods etc....

Having proof of such actions would be sufficient... as those actions would lead to prison & asset forfeiture....
Which for 45 would be the ultimate humiliation...


As with any well done extortion operation.... pressure is often inconsistently applied and as soon as one demand is met more are added....

Most likely the desired "infiltration" of US communications/ data systems/ security structures has already been achieved....

So removal of 45 will only serve to limit those future acts which are solely controlled by the President...
however, it is likely that the despair evident on so many faces reflects the quantity & degree of (dormant) damage which has already been achieved and can be remotely activated at some future point in time,...

Putin discussed the danger of electronic/technological systems disruption at the recent economic forum in St Petersburg.....

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