HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » General Discussion (Forum) » What's wrong with everybo...

Tue Mar 14, 2017, 12:51 PM

What's wrong with everybody? The GOP philosophy is in plain sight, and no one sees it!

The blogs and news sites are filled with angst and disbelief that the Ryan Medical Insurance Plan is so wrong headed, we ask, how can Ryan and others EVER conclude that this plan has merit. I can tell you why.

One of the dominant philosophical underpinnings of the GOP's perspective is NEO-CONSERVATISM. That philosophical viewpoint comes from decades ago, touted by Strauss and Kristol (William's father) and a handful of others.

Neo-Conservatives worry about the survival of the species and believe that natural resources must be conserved.

One of their solutions to slowing the dwindling of natural resources, according the Neo-Conservatives, is "De-population."

De-population means what it suggests. The slower the rate of increase of human beings on the planet, the better. De-population can occur in a number of ways, most of them not very pleasant: war, famine, starvation, disease, natural disasters, etc.

The Ryan Plan is an expression of the Neo-Conservative solution for preserving natural resources. By having people die earlier, they'll use up fewer resources. It's simple. This explains why Ryan is so pleased with the fact that his plan will take tens of millions of people off medical services. THEY'LL DIE EARLIER! That's what he wants!

We seem to be afraid to attribute to Ryan and the GOP any hypothesis that they want people to suffer and die to save money. That seems so dehumanizing and antithetical to holding human life as sacred and valued above all else.

But suffering and dying EARLY is what the GOP is advocating. It's not that they didn't know what the results of their plan would be if implemented. "Oh. We didn't know." That's the game they're playing. They damned well DO know. They want people to suffer soon and die early.

9 replies, 1446 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread

Response to Eyeball_Kid (Original post)

Tue Mar 14, 2017, 12:55 PM

1. they hate us, plain and simple. they are completely lacking in empathy, compassion, caring,

kindness, helpfulness--any of the attributes that are generally considered human. pretty sure that they are another species entirely.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to niyad (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 14, 2017, 01:01 PM

2. IMO, it's vitally important for all of us to comprehend exactly why Ryan's

plan is SO APPEALING to Republicans.

We want to deny that fellow citizens can wish that we, our relatives, and our friends and neighbors, suffer in pain and die early.

But that's what the GOP believes.

This is their first opportunity EVER to craft a medical insurance and services plan for the entire nation. They're in control of the legislative process. Their philosophy isn't hindered or compromised by any kind of bi-partisan effort. This is ALL GOP. So they can say and do what's in their hearts. And they did.

They want to kill us so that THEY can live. It's a zero-sum game to them.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Eyeball_Kid (Original post)

Tue Mar 14, 2017, 01:07 PM

3. Yet they allied with the forced birthers to do exactly the opposite. n/t

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to rzemanfl (Reply #3)

Tue Mar 14, 2017, 01:11 PM

4. That's a culture war tactic that will have little effect on increasing death rates.

What happens when an infant can't get medical care? It suffers needlessly and dies early. Just like the elderly.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Eyeball_Kid (Reply #4)

Tue Mar 14, 2017, 01:18 PM

5. True, they mostly seem to care about fetuses, after that it's "God's will." n/t

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to rzemanfl (Reply #3)

Tue Mar 14, 2017, 02:59 PM

8. Forced birth policies keeps the poor where they are.

So long as the poor don't have time to think about what opportunities they are missing because they are spending every minute surviving or recovering from the mind and body-killing efforts required to survive, the poor won't get above their station.
Link that with policies that encourage lack of respect for people who are not in the privileged class, those who don't fall into a perceived normal class automatically get shoved into the same undesirable social classes of the poor.
And then the privileged group can go on to claim all the opportunities, and those who choose so can entertain themselves by encouraging the lower classes to fight amongst themselves for crumbs.
That's what the current crop of GOP and Liberation/Nationalists want. A return to a very few owning the rest of the world.


Haele

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Eyeball_Kid (Original post)

Tue Mar 14, 2017, 01:20 PM

6. Perhaps the right pair of sunglasses will do the trick.

.














.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Eyeball_Kid (Original post)

Tue Mar 14, 2017, 01:59 PM

7. Alan Grayson was right.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Eyeball_Kid (Original post)

Tue Mar 14, 2017, 03:43 PM

9. If this were true they wouldn't have a problem with abortion

and they'd support Planned Parenthood. They'd be making sure everyone has free or inexpensive birth control.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread