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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsYesterday my daughter was threatened by a Trump supporter.
She was coming home from school late. She had a meeting...it was hailing here and she blinked her bright lights on and off in order to see better...she is a very cautious driver...the guy some ways in front of her blocked her car at the exit by turning sideways...he approached her car...at first she thought he needed help...but he launched into an unhinged tirade about the lights...and she was terrified. The man is very lucky I was not driving...if some person blocked my car and got out and threatened me.. I would have warned him as I called 911 not to come any closer...if he did, I would run him over...I am so angry. I wanted to call the cops...there is a camera near there, but she doesn't want to...he is dangerous and will hurt someone...she could have been rammed by another driver getting off the highway...the visibility was very poor. He had one one of those make America great stupid caps on his obviously fat head. Ohio is open carry and some of these folks are very dangerous.
Have you ever been threatened or accosted by a Trump supporter?
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get the red out
(13,460 posts)I haven't been accosted by any yet, but I know how possible that is now. And yes, they are often armed.
I am sorry this happened to your daughter.
Demsrule86
(68,487 posts)and was terrified...lucky she wasn't injured.
RKP5637
(67,089 posts)to explode.
Demsrule86
(68,487 posts)I was so angry...
leftyladyfrommo
(18,866 posts)I drive a lot and I have been threatened 3 times just lately. I wasn't doing anything but driving down the road doing the speed limit and staying right.
People thought I wasn't going fast enough. Once I was waiting for traffic to clear before making left. Guy didn't think I turned fast enough. He gunned his engine, laid on the horn and threatened to ram me.
Scary out there.
Demsrule86
(68,487 posts)disappeared. I mean there was some of that during the Obama campaign...I was called names at a gas station by someone who didn't like Obama, but it seems worse.
ProfessorGAC
(64,877 posts)I drive a 4 lane divided highway (but not limited access) to and from work. I had a guy flip me off because i was doing 50 in a 55 and when he caught up to me, there was someone else in the left lane, going a little faster than me, but no room for him to get around me. When that car cleared, he got to the left lane, shot ahead of me, flipped me off and ducked into the right lane just when the first car that passed me was trying to merge right. That person had to swing back to the left.
So, he nearly drives into my trunk, passes two cars going 15 or 20 above the speed limit, nearly causes an accident and he flips me off!
Go figure.
Demsrule86
(68,487 posts)leftyladyfrommo
(18,866 posts)I was probably doing 40 on the ramp and headed for the freeway - not very far at all. I looked in the mirror and a truck was right on my backend. When I merged into traffic - in the right hand lane - he whipped around me, honking his horn and then roared off down the highway. I wasn't doing anything wrong.
That same day I was just driving along doing 55 (the speed limit in the downtown area) and in the right hand lane. I had a car go whizzing around me, pulled into the left lane and then back into the right lane. The passenger was hanging out the windows clear up to his waist, flipping me off and yelling.
It is just bizarre stuff. I am being really careful now. I try to stay just as far away from other drivers as I can. I give everyone a whole lot of room.
We had a case here in KC (I think it was here but I may be wrong) where a man got mad because a grandmother took too long at a stop sign. He pulled around and fired into her car killing her toddler grandson.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)the "let it all out" fad in, I think, the 1980s, where it was supposed to be healthy to express negative emotions rather than keep them bottled up? Turned out that indulging negative emotions INCREASES them. And 45's election is clearly being taken by some as permission for acting out.
I don't drive a lot now, but as an appraiser I did. I drove fast all over Southern California, Accelerate, switch lanes, cut back in, brake, accelerate--usually to fast dance music on the radio. Some honking here and there, but I was monitoring traffic as far as I could see and at least no one could complain I was holding them up. The most memorable interactions were actually with people who were doing the same thing--they'd get on my tail and follow my lead, or I'd do theirs.
That said, when stopping in questionable or downright bad neighborhoods I always left room to the front and side (left lane) to be able to peel out if needed. Being blocked from moving is potentially dangerous. I wasn't afraid, just sensibly proactive.
I am today also--by not displaying liberal stickers in any neighborhood. Only a few of those people are potentially dangerous or would vandalize, but the hazard is real.
GoneOffShore
(17,337 posts)We've been in the South of France for the past 8 weeks, driving on secondary roads, toll roads (130KPH - 81mph top speed), Marseille, Aix-en-Provence, etc.
Have had a couple of locals get pretty close but no honks, no flashes, no gestures.
People here, for the most part, keep to the speed limits - mainly because enforcement is electronic via radar cameras, and too many tickets and there goes your license. And random breathalyser stops are very common.
And despite the fact that Provence-Alpes-Cotes d'Azur drivers are statistically the worst in France.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,427 posts)and not paying attention. I've gotten so tired of not making a light because I waited politely for the person in front of me to cautiously go, only to get stuck because they were twitting or updating facebook or whatever people do on their phones at lights.
I'd personally like for traffic to move a lot faster, but I think the laws that need the most enforcing are those requiring people to pay attention to their driving, not the emails and faxes on their phones.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,866 posts)The volume is turned off in the car. But I don't take chances when I drive. I often drive 200 miles a day. I can't afford traffic tickets or wrecks.
TNLib
(1,819 posts)I went to a bar and grill where a bunch of redneck types hang out, the other day. I got some weird glares.
Not sure if it's because I'm browned skinned or if they were just being creepy drunks. Either way I think I'll be avoiding places like that.
Demsrule86
(68,487 posts)During the election some Hillary supporters with signs had their dogs poisoned...my husband took our sign down...we love our kids and our dogs...that guy is lucky I was not driving ...as a woman alone some guy comes near my car and blocks me ...approaches me...he is going to get run over. My Daddy told my sister and me ...never get out of your car...it is a weapon if you are attacked. We were living in Connecticut and some guy who said he was a cop was pulling woman over and assaulting them.
Amishman
(5,554 posts)And that wasn't threats, more in the line of exasperated lecturing in a parking lot.
(I believe they were a fellow Democrat because they had an Obama sticker on their car)
Demsrule86
(68,487 posts)Later she added a Hillary sticker. She is gay and has LGBTQ stuff too...I worry about her safety and wish she would remove these stickers. She is also in college. Now she was threated at college coming from a unity meeting by a band of Trump supporters. They shrieked at the kids called them perverted and told them they would burn in hell...some had signs supporting the murder in Orlando...I called the school and have not seen them since.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)before the election. My daughter and I with 2 little grand kids in car seats were almost run off the road by a woman with load of Trump stickers on her car. She opened her window, shouted obscenities at us, and gave us the finger.
A woman against other women with babies in their car? Just goes to show you are crazy Trumpets are.
Demsrule86
(68,487 posts)That reminds me...my oldest who was the one threatened yesterday...and I went to the woman's march in DC. I ran into ladies with signs on their cars and pink hats...got two pink hats but had no sign...so I took crayons I bought at the gas station and wrote on my windows in the back. It was fine going down...so many people like a convoy...but coming back, we were almost run off the road twice...there we were in the cold and the drizzle at a gas station scraping off the crayon which is harder than it looks...it was a rental and it took some serious scrubbing.
GoneOffShore
(17,337 posts)Demsrule86
(68,487 posts)help woman in distress...not terrorize her. She could have been killed had some other driver not seen her car...very poor visibility. It was hailing yesterday.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)identiying information about the vehicle or decription of the driver?
If so, she should file a report IMMEDIATELY (maybe with the State Highway Patrol?) so that this person is in the system in case he lashes out again.
Demsrule86
(68,487 posts)At first she thought the driver needed help.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)a 'fight or flight' adrenaline rush kicks in, rendering one's ability to respond in a measured form more difficult. Glad she escaped with no physical harm done to her.
Demsrule86
(68,487 posts)You see quite a bit of that. My hairdresser is from Jerusalem...she is a Muslim...she is afraid to go to the Mosque...she is wearing a scarf instead of the traditional headdress...so sad for my country.
brooklynite
(94,378 posts)Demsrule86
(68,487 posts)which made her even more scared.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)he was supposed to be a trumpster. To be fair, I don't think serious anger control issues are ideologically correlated.
I'm like you--I absolutely would call the police now. When I was young I usually did not, just like your daughter. Wondering if someone's been having a very bad day is no longer in the forefront. "There, there, thug. Tell me all about it."
Demsrule86
(68,487 posts)moriah
(8,311 posts)Demsrule86
(68,487 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)Demsrule86
(68,487 posts)chance to use their guns...when all you have is a hammer everything is a nail right?
moriah
(8,311 posts)I was in line to check out with my Nag Champa when this guy started in on me about obviously being a "pothead" (I haven't smoked in a long time now so no smell, was just in jeans and a shirt from my trip to Atlantic Beach, NC, and a plain jacket). I completely ignored his comments, which angered him more. After several more comments I ignored, including "What, you think you're too good to speak to someone talking to you?" he said Trump was going to "finally do something about you liberal hippie potheads".
At that point the clerk asked him to put away his soda, leave the store, and come back when he was ready to not harass other customers.
Demsrule86
(68,487 posts)I suppose do something means murder as in the Philippines...Trump has said admiring things about mass executions of those accused of being drug users.
moriah
(8,311 posts)Since he didn't personally threaten me I wasn't absolutely terrified, just figured he was mouthing off. When I said I was going to hang out until another customer could walk me to my car just to be safe the clerk asked a stocker to do it.
But I may invest in a Taser (not a plain stunner) because my state allows them, if the environment here becomes worse than people simply using any excuse to vent their crazy verbally.
Girard442
(6,066 posts)Doesn't ever excuse bad behavior, but it's something worth knowing.
Demsrule86
(68,487 posts)the bottom...she was at the top. She had trouble seeing...and put the lights on just to get to the exit...hailing and poor visibility. He turned his car sideways so she could not get by him and got out of the car...no excuse for his behavior.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Each time the coward did it in the middle of the night.
Demsrule86
(68,487 posts)I was not driving...I would have run him over if he blocked me and approached my car.
Demsrule86
(68,487 posts)The Trump asshats think they can do anything they want...but judge are seeing it differently...a fair number sent to jail recently for various things.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)My neighbor had a bunch of those blow up Christmas front yard decorations. Really pretty good size ones. One even had some kind of blower in the middle of it that made the white shavings in it look like snow flurries. The asshole went from my yard to my neighbors and stuck a knife in each of my neighbors blow up ornaments. Flattened them like a tire. lol. My neighbor had hd cameras and caught it all. Not only did my neighbor turn the video over to the police, they uploaded them to the Nextdoor Neighbor App. I started the app for our neighborhood so it was exciting watching it all go down. It was a Trump supporter a couple of blocks over. Hard to mistake his jacked up jeep. Now everyone in the neighborhood knows who it was. Not sure of how the charges worked out in the end.
With me he just stole my Clinton merchandise I had posted in the front yard. He usually just threw them a couple of houses down. Each morning I would just walk down the street, get them, and put them back in my yard.
Demsrule86
(68,487 posts)Those blowups are expensive usually over a $100.00 well over...I buy mine after Christmas and put them on the big porch. My pups would bark there head off if someone comes on the porch...
lpbk2713
(42,742 posts)And do the wrong thing at the wrong time with the right people present.
It will be a learning experience.
Demsrule86
(68,487 posts)Ohio is open carry...plenty of people have guns...he does this to the wrong person and they shoot him or run him over.
hunter
(38,304 posts)It doesn't have anything to do with the person they are picking on. Such encounters with Trump supporters can be considered random shit. It's almost certainly for the best your daughter did not respond in kind.
My battered salvage title mid-eighties car screams "don't fuck with the crazy guy" which I probably shouldn't be proud of, but I haven't experienced any road rage directed at me for a long, long time. I don't get angry at other drivers, even when they do something silly like bumping into me in a parking lot, or something dangerous like an unsafe lane change. But heck yeah, overly aggressive drivers unhinged have sometimes scared me.
Anger and driving are a bad mix. There's a lot of people out on the roads who voted for Trump because they are always angry, an anger which is often fueled by hate radio and television.
Demsrule86
(68,487 posts)she thought he needed help...what a jerk he was.
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Demsrule86
(68,487 posts)on strange roads at night.
0rganism
(23,931 posts)this needs to be reported to the police. otherwise he gets a free pass to keep on being dangerous, and eventually he will hurt someone. don't let it go that far.
Demsrule86
(68,487 posts)I might just call them and tell them what happened ...they can pull the camera.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)They seem to be targets, if a male was in the car, it would not have happened...
Demsrule86
(68,487 posts)As a woman I have always been conscious of driving alone at night.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)Been through this myself, and very upsetting...
I made the mistake of getting out of my car to go kick his arse, and the coward sped off..
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)enough to not (knowingly) run into any in RL, and even online I don't get into much contact with them except to refute the trolls.
Demsrule86
(68,487 posts)I stay away from them.
kerry-is-my-prez
(8,133 posts)handicapped parking spots at a CVS. I almost said "it figures that a Trump supporter would be so pushy" but gave them a dirty look instead. I was scared they might whip out a gun since I live in Floriduh.....-
Demsrule86
(68,487 posts)I live in Ohio...same thing.
kimbutgar
(21,060 posts)A huggge truck with chump stickers cut us off and blew this horrible smoke at us. We couldn't see for a moment. Luckily my hubby is an aggressive driver and he sped up and cut off the truck and sped off. I was happy and upset with him at the sAme time.
Demsrule86
(68,487 posts)Hubs and I call the police and say he is creating a driving hazard-you can't see...I know this person got at least one ticket.
LOL Lib
(1,462 posts)I relish the day if it ever comes.
"Say hello to my little friend."
That's right.
Maru Kitteh
(28,324 posts)Too bad snowflake, you're just going to have to put up with us.
Demsrule86
(68,487 posts)sakabatou
(42,141 posts)Demsrule86
(68,487 posts)I would say even though he won by double digits...many who voted for him in my area did so for jobs...not die hard supporters but there are some...right now Lordstown GM is shut down...and things are tough.
sakabatou
(42,141 posts)Demsrule86
(68,487 posts)all over Northeastern Ohio. My son is laid off. I think there is regret.