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Wed Mar 1, 2017, 01:22 PM

Do Americans know how the US and alies created Bin Laden, ISIL, etc?

Dont think they do.



http://www.e-ir.info/2016/04/02/us-foreign-policy-towards-the-middle-east-in-the-1950s/


In July 1953, Eisenhower authorized an operation to overthrow Mosaddegh and ‘install a pro-western government in Iran’ through ‘legal or quasi legal means’ (Top Secret Policy Draft, July 1953). Official documents show that the desire to ‘bring to power a government…which would vigorously prosecute the dangerously strong communist party’ (Secret Summary, post-coup) was at the heart of considerations. A security document of the 10th September 1953 labelled ‘Anti-Tudeh Activities’, reports on the progress of exactly that. ‘Arrested 412 members…arrested members to be banished… Ministers agreed upon ousting Tudeh members from Government Ministries’ (Security Information, 1953). Thus the Iranian coup provides a strong example of the importance the US placed on ensuring a Western orientated anti-communist government in Iran.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'%C3%A9tat


If they understood why we are hated by so many, would it matter?

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Reply Do Americans know how the US and alies created Bin Laden, ISIL, etc? (Original post)
Eliot Rosewater Mar 2017 OP
niyad Mar 2017 #1
Wounded Bear Mar 2017 #2
malaise Mar 2017 #3
Blue_true Mar 2017 #4
Eliot Rosewater Mar 2017 #6
trof Mar 2017 #5
LanternWaste Mar 2017 #7

Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 01:26 PM

1. most of them do not have a clue

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 01:27 PM

2. No, they don't...

We're always the good guys.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 01:38 PM

3. Doing what most object to being done

to them - destroying democracy for the interests of a few - they're now repeating this at home.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 01:51 PM

4. If you read comment board you see loud rightwingers

saying that Obama created ISIS. Attempts to educate them fly past their ignorant eyes.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 04:34 PM

6. Do you remember this?

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/are-conservatives-really-going-after-michelle-obama-for-promoting-water/


Are Conservatives Really Going After Michelle Obama for Promoting Water?

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 02:50 PM

5. No no, they hate us for our freedom.

It has absolutely nothing to do with what we and the French and the British did to them.
Is this really necessary?

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 04:59 PM

7. I've found a crude litmus test that allows me to realize if I'm wasting my time

 

I've found a crude litmus test that allows me to realize if I'm wasting my time with talking to anyone about terrorism as we know it and see it today: "Are you aware of the Sykes–Picot Accord?"

If the reponse is a dull-witted stare, we may as well be discussing Advanced Film Theory with someone who is unaware of the existence or meaning of the three act structure.

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