Wed Mar 1, 2017, 12:13 PM
progressoid (48,280 posts)
First generation immigrants, whether legal or illegal, are less likely to commit all types of crime
Does legal or illegal immigration increase crime? That is an empirical question that should be answerable through rigorous research. Whatever the answer, it should inform our policy priorities and decisions. At the very least, if we are going to have a national conversation about immigration, the established facts should serve as common ground.
When you are done laughing (or crying) you might be interested to read about recent research into the correlation between patterns of immigration and various types of personal and property crime. Researchers have previously looked at this question by focusing on individuals – are immigrants more or less likely to commit crimes than native born Americans? Let’s consider that question first. The research overwhelmingly shows that first generation immigrants, whether legal or illegal, are less likely to commit all types of crime at all ages than the native born. Interestingly, by second generation the statistics look more like native born crime rates, so it does not take long to assimilate in this regard. As an aside, this, of course, does not include crossing the boarder illegally itself, but it has been pointed out that being an undocumented immigrant is not a criminal offense, but a civil offence. ![]() Make no mistake, this data can be complicated, and there are studies showing higher incarceration rates for immigrants. Those studies, however, have significant flaws, such as relying on self report, or only looking at particular counties that are likely not representative. The most complete data shows that immigrants are about one fifth less likely to be incarcerated than the native born. In fact the research delves deeper to determine why that is the case. The difference is not explained through deportation of criminals. Rather, it seems to be mostly due to the self-selective nature of immigration. Those who choose to immigrate, whether legally or illegally, appear to be less likely to commit crimes, or are more responsive to deterrents. more... ...http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/immigration-and-crime/
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progressoid | Mar 2017 | OP |
Stuart G | Mar 2017 | #1 | |
Wounded Bear | Mar 2017 | #2 | |
progressoid | Mar 2017 | #3 | |
Wounded Bear | Mar 2017 | #4 | |
progressoid | Mar 2017 | #5 | |
MindPilot | Mar 2017 | #6 |
Response to progressoid (Original post)
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 12:45 PM
Stuart G (36,969 posts)
1. Excellent Point..thanks for posting...nt
Response to progressoid (Original post)
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 12:49 PM
Wounded Bear (56,024 posts)
2. It's kind of a "duh" statment to begin with...
Not dissing the stats, but the Repub contention that immigrants are naturally more prone to crime.
Fact is, immigrants in general and "illegal" immigrants in particular, don't want anything to do with police or courts and will tend to walk the straight and narrow for self preservation. When you frame it right, it makes total sense. |
Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #2)
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 03:03 PM
progressoid (48,280 posts)
3. What? You mean we aren't be invaded by rapists and drug mules?
Response to progressoid (Reply #3)
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 03:41 PM
Wounded Bear (56,024 posts)
4. Hate to bust your bubble...
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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #4)
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 09:04 PM
progressoid (48,280 posts)
5. Steve King says they calves the size of cantelopes from carrying drugs across the border.
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Response to progressoid (Reply #5)
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 09:22 PM
MindPilot (12,693 posts)
6. Clearly drug running is not good for the bovine population.