Thu Feb 23, 2017, 01:14 PM
laserhaas (7,805 posts)
Legal Standard to Impeach the Donald (Trump/Dumpf)
Any inference of the notion public declarations of the truth, is "a gesture with no power" is utter Bull Chit. It
fails the reality that almost all actions, noteworthy, are trials by public opinion. This thread is a reiteration of my recent comment concerning the paradigm that impeachment of Donald Trump, is a given! Whereas, being the Donald has already done acts far beyond the minimum standard requisites to impeach. It is a well-documented fact that most get it wrong, when they challenge the public to "back off" from any opine of judgment, prior to jury affirmation. This is done under the premise that - even in the court of public opinion - a person is innocent until proven guilty. Which is complete and udder Bull Chit! Constitutional protection of civil rights, before one's property, freedom (or life) is taken away, by state asserted authority has - absolutely nothing to do - with the public's right to form an opinion. [br][hr][br] [center] [font size=4 color=navy]IMO[/font][font size=4 color=burnt] the Donald is worthy of impeachment[/font][/center] Allegation Donald Drumpf won his nomination, by FRAUD (lying, publicly, to America, that he would "drain the swamp" and he, himself, accusing Hillary of being a Goldman Sachs crony). Evidence of fraud As POTUS, Trump has demonstrated his phony bologna ways, by picking a batch of Goldman Sachs (and other reprehensible cabinent members) to run our nations highest offices, nationally (even internationally) important & significant. Worse, he has chosen a Goldman Sachs crony to be head of SEC (and yours truly will likely put an end to that nominee). Standard for Impeachment Believe it or not, the legal standard for impeachment is about as low as humanly possible (arguably, proof of the premise that impeachment is a matter of public (and representative thereof) - opinion. As noted by the "Constitutional Rights Foundation" (http://www.crf-usa.org) the standard for impeachment - is: The Constitution sets specific grounds for impeachment. They are “treason, bribery, and other high crimes and misdemeanors.” To be impeached and removed from office, the House and Senate must find that the official committed one of these acts.
CONCLUSION President's were NOT sworn in to be partisan loyalists - they swear an oath to uphold the Constitution - for the sake of the entire nation (not just the desires of their "Party" of prefernce). Though many don't want to hear this - President's owe a duty of loyalty - to all citizens, (GOP, Indy, Green or Dem). Many of U.S. (especially Democrats) were miffed, when President Obama appeared to fail U.S. (mostly Democrats) concerning certain pledges (such as the shutting down of Gitmo prisoners). Why the Republicans did not seek impeachment of Obama, for things like Gitmo, is due to the fact they would look to be stupid (betrayers) to their own GOP contingency/ platform. If they sought to find Obama guilty of the crime of not closing Gitmo prison camp - as Barack promised - then (in essence) they would be advocating for closure of Gitmo. In the case of the Donald, his "Yes we can" was - "I will drain the swamp - we can't have Hillary being a tool for Goldman Sachs". At the barest of minimums, Trump has lied to everyone, and his pick of Goldman Sachs to be head of agencies having auspice over Goldman Sachs - is incredulous, intolerable and inexplicable. Each of his cabinent picks are contrary to good faith/arm's length representation of All of U.S. - tilted (way too far) towards GOP agendas - and picks like Governor Perry as Energy Secretary (instead of an actual Engineer or Scientist), is ABSURD. WHEREAS, Donald Trump, arguably, is already guilty of (at the barest of minimums) of a misdemeanor, of lying to All of U.S.; and is failing his "Oath of Office" to serve and protect our nation's/Constitution, with his unrelenting, unremorseful lying. [br] Upon information and belief, the GOP is allowing the Donald, to hang himself, whilst also testing the waters, just to see how much, they can get away with - in the meantime. [center]What say ye is the Donald, already, worthy of being impeached? Yes or No [hr] As for me, I'm already dancing upon his - to be - politico grave. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() There's nothing like the grand down=fall of the pathetic, narcissitic, hubris, too tall! [br][hr][br]
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laserhaas | Feb 2017 | OP |
bravenak | Feb 2017 | #1 | |
laserhaas | Feb 2017 | #2 | |
bravenak | Feb 2017 | #4 | |
laserhaas | Feb 2017 | #3 | |
bravenak | Feb 2017 | #5 | |
Vinca | Feb 2017 | #6 | |
Faux pas | Feb 2017 | #7 | |
jmg257 | Feb 2017 | #8 |
Response to laserhaas (Original post)
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 01:15 PM
bravenak (34,648 posts)
1. The gop is a criminal organization at this point
Response to bravenak (Reply #1)
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 01:17 PM
laserhaas (7,805 posts)
2. Concur (though, arguably, "at this point"
is being far too gracious...
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Response to laserhaas (Original post)
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 01:18 PM
laserhaas (7,805 posts)
3. Votes of "never" seem obtuse to the fact the GOP can't wait to have Pence, in charge
It would put an end to many arguments, and get a well-established politico, in place.
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Response to laserhaas (Reply #3)
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 01:21 PM
bravenak (34,648 posts)
5. I think they are scared of the Trump mafia
His voters will light their asses on fire if they impeach him. Our will light them if they dont. They are between a rock and a fire pit. I see them hanging onto him until they lose the misterms.
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Response to laserhaas (Original post)
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 01:22 PM
Vinca (49,168 posts)
6. I think there is a 50/50 chance he'll be impeached. It's more likely he resigns in a snit.
Response to laserhaas (Original post)
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 01:48 PM
Faux pas (13,624 posts)
7. Not while the rethugs
have a hard on to F up everything!
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Response to laserhaas (Original post)
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 02:23 PM
jmg257 (11,996 posts)
8. Impeached - For lying during a campaign?? For appointing questionable cabinet picks??
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