Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:39 AM
Pab Sungenis (9,612 posts)
In defense of CNN
standard policy in this case would have been for three separate stories to be written well in advance (one for struck down, one for upheld, and one for a mixed result) to be uploaded when needed, to hold space until a more detailed story based on the facts could be written.
Probably what happened was that an intern really did "push the wrong button."
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Pab Sungenis | Jun 2012 | OP |
Skinner | Jun 2012 | #1 | |
qanda | Jun 2012 | #7 | |
byeya | Jun 2012 | #11 | |
alcibiades_mystery | Jun 2012 | #14 | |
Freddie Stubbs | Jun 2012 | #22 | |
WI_DEM | Jun 2012 | #2 | |
SoutherDem | Jun 2012 | #3 | |
Pab Sungenis | Jun 2012 | #15 | |
coalition_unwilling | Jun 2012 | #19 | |
Pab Sungenis | Jun 2012 | #23 | |
Lint Head | Jun 2012 | #4 | |
Bluzmann57 | Jun 2012 | #5 | |
TwilightGardener | Jun 2012 | #6 | |
sufrommich | Jun 2012 | #8 | |
Gold Metal Flake | Jun 2012 | #12 | |
HappyMe | Jun 2012 | #9 | |
Gold Metal Flake | Jun 2012 | #10 | |
Spazito | Jun 2012 | #13 | |
part man all 86 | Jun 2012 | #16 | |
Raffi Ella | Jun 2012 | #17 | |
Pab Sungenis | Jun 2012 | #18 | |
Bake | Jun 2012 | #20 | |
NYC Liberal | Jun 2012 | #21 | |
RedSpartan | Jun 2012 | #24 |
Response to Pab Sungenis (Original post)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:40 AM
Skinner (63,645 posts)
1. An intern didn't push the wrong button on Wolf Blitzer.
He spent 10 minutes on live TV claiming the Mandate was struck down.
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Response to Skinner (Reply #1)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:44 AM
byeya (2,842 posts)
11. Wolfie was on cruise control and what came out was his default
setting.
It's OK - he's very manly and authoritative ![]() |
Response to Skinner (Reply #1)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:48 AM
alcibiades_mystery (36,437 posts)
14. ROFL
OP rebutted and refuted. Finis.
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Response to Skinner (Reply #1)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:07 AM
Freddie Stubbs (29,853 posts)
22. You are assuming that Wold Blitzer is not an android
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Response to Pab Sungenis (Original post)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:41 AM
WI_DEM (33,497 posts)
2. Oh yeah, the old 'blame the intern' excuse!! Wolfie & King were hoping it
would be overturned. They went on for 15 minutes as if it was overturned.
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Response to Pab Sungenis (Original post)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:41 AM
SoutherDem (2,307 posts)
3. Prewriting the news.
Doesn't that defeat the purpose?
Too many want to be the first even if they have to backtrack later. |
Response to SoutherDem (Reply #3)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:50 AM
Pab Sungenis (9,612 posts)
15. It's standard operating procedure.
Write the basics for each contingency to have it ready to go, then you write the final story with the details. I spent 20 years in broadcasting, I know how it operates.
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Response to Pab Sungenis (Reply #15)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:04 AM
coalition_unwilling (14,180 posts)
19. Were you a part of this operation?
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Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #19)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:11 AM
Pab Sungenis (9,612 posts)
23. No, but
I've written many a story from both sides as a placeholder over the years: first for broadcasting and then for the web.
What I would have done in this case is that around 8 AM this morning I would have written and printed out the following: Breaking news: the Supreme Court has voted to strike down the Affordable Care Act, commonly known as Obamacare, handing a major defeat to the Obama Administration. The vote was ___ to ___, with Justice ______________ writing the decision. Breaking news: the Supreme Court has voted to uphold the Affordable Care Act, commonly known as Obamacare, handing a major victory to the Obama Administration. The vote was ___ to ___, with Justice ______________ writing the decision. Breaking news: the Supreme Court has voted to strike down portions of the Affordable Care Act, commonly known as Obamacare, while leaving other aspects of the law intact. Then when the announcement came down I would fill in the blanks for the votes and who wrote the decision and hand it over to the news guy on air. I'd then start writing a more in-depth story based on the actual decision which would go right on the air as soon as it was finished. What probably happened is that some intern on hearing "mandate unconstitutional under the Commerce Clause" grabbed story "A" and handed it off to the desk. Then Wolf vamped for a while until the truth became apparent. |
Response to Pab Sungenis (Original post)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:42 AM
Lint Head (15,064 posts)
4. I think there were some folks at CNN that wanted it struck down and jumped at the chance to get
a negative headline out ASAP. CNN is Fox lite.
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Response to Pab Sungenis (Original post)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:42 AM
Bluzmann57 (12,336 posts)
5. You know, I'm so old I remember when tv news got it right
before airing it. There is no excuse for what happened at CNN. Their first and foremost duty as a news organization is supposed to be "get the story right" before airing story.
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Response to Pab Sungenis (Original post)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:42 AM
TwilightGardener (46,416 posts)
6. I think they got a bad tip, and ran with it in their eagerness to be first
with a sensational story.
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Response to Pab Sungenis (Original post)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:43 AM
sufrommich (22,871 posts)
8. Wolf Blitzer has buttons? nt
Response to sufrommich (Reply #8)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:44 AM
Gold Metal Flake (13,805 posts)
12. Duzy!
Response to Pab Sungenis (Original post)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:43 AM
HappyMe (20,277 posts)
9. As far as I know,
they were the only ones that got it wrong. And kept going on & on with the wrong info.
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Response to Pab Sungenis (Original post)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:44 AM
Gold Metal Flake (13,805 posts)
10. CNN needs no defense on a little Democratic message board.
They have zillions of conservative dollars to run their Giant Liberal Media propaganda outlet.
But nice try, or something. |
Response to Pab Sungenis (Original post)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:47 AM
Spazito (47,150 posts)
13. CNN has been competing with Fox for a few years now...
With this gross error, they simply mirror them yet again. I am glad they did this as it makes it even clearer, if possible, how little credibility they should be given.
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Response to Pab Sungenis (Original post)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:51 AM
part man all 86 (367 posts)
16. Clueless No-Nothing Network!
corportate dollars at work for 1%!
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Response to Pab Sungenis (Original post)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:03 AM
Raffi Ella (4,465 posts)
17. why the hell would you defend CNN?
Media Matters has shown that negative press from ALL the news networks for President Obama/Democrats far outweighs positive press. CNN needs to answer for this 'mistake', not be defended and especially NOT by Democrats...
"Liberal Media" Hasn't Given Obama A Week Of Positive Press Coverage In Nearly One Year The results of the latest survey from the nonpartisan Pew Research Center Project for Excellence in Journalism should not come as a shock. If you look back on Pew's ongoing research, it indicates the "liberal media" hasn't given Obama a single week's worth of positive news coverage in the ten months Pew has conducted its study.
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201204240009 |
Response to Raffi Ella (Reply #17)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:04 AM
Pab Sungenis (9,612 posts)
18. Yeah, they're biased and anti-Democrat
but this was probably a legitimate mistake.
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Response to Pab Sungenis (Original post)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:06 AM
Bake (21,977 posts)
20. The impulse to be FIRST overrode the impulse to be RIGHT.
There's no defense for that in journalism. This is a huge black eye for CNN, and I predict heads will roll (i.e., if anybody at CNN actually gives two shits about real journalism).
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Response to Pab Sungenis (Original post)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:07 AM
NYC Liberal (19,834 posts)
21. While that's true, it wasn't just a headline on their website.
It was all over their live TV channel too.
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Response to Pab Sungenis (Original post)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:11 AM
RedSpartan (1,671 posts)
24. It's a sloppy, but understandable mistake. What happened is...
when you read the syllabus of the decision, it goes through all the various holdings, summing them up in several pages. The first one says that Roberts held the mandate is not constitutional under the Commerce Clause. So someone saw that and jumped the gun. When you read on, though, a page or two later it says that Roberts says it IS constitutional as a tax. So it's a case of trying to get it first, but failing to get it right by reading the whole summary.
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