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Fri Feb 17, 2017, 09:59 PM

 

Paul Ryan & Republican Establishment Used Hacked Info From Russia Against Democrats:

Let's not forget that a super PAC tied to Paul Ryan used material provided by Russia's hacking of the DNC and DCCC.

It was known that Russia had stolen material from the DNC and DCCC and a Paul Ryan Super PAC and as well as other Republican groups used it.

It wasn't just Hillary Clinton being attacked. It wasn't just Trump benefiting. There's potentially more collusion than just that between Trump's team and Russia.

Yes, this was reported in mid-December, but it bear repeating:

“As you are aware, the D.C.C.C. and other Democratic Party entities have been the target of cybersecurity intrusions — an electronic Watergate break-in,” the House minority leader, Nancy Pelosi, wrote in an email the day after the personal information was released. The email continued, “It has been widely reported that this cybersecurity incident is part of a Russian cyberattack which appears to be an attempt to interfere with our elections. We take this troubling situation very seriously and have notified the appropriate authorities, including the F.B.I. and Sergeant-at-Arms.”

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By September, Guccifer 2.0 had expanded his releases to include documents related to House races in Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Ohio, Illinois and North Carolina, working with individual political bloggers like Miscellany Blue in New Hampshire.

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Guccifer 2.0 even posted a cache of confidential documents focusing on Representative Ben Ray Luján, Democrat of New Mexico, the chairman of the D.C.C.C., who faced no serious challenger this year. Mr. Luján said it was a clear effort to send a message to the party leadership — that the hackers wanted to try to hurt Democrats at all levels of the party, from lesser known races in Florida to the leadership

After the first political advertisement appeared using the hacked material, Mr. Luján wrote a letter to his Republican counterpart at the National Republican Congressional Committee urging him to not use this stolen material in the 2016 campaign.

“The N.R.C.C.’s use of documents stolen by the Russians plays right into the hands of one of the United States’ most dangerous adversaries,” Mr. Luján’s Aug. 29 letter said. “Put simply, if this action continues, the N.R.C.C. will be complicit in aiding the Russian government in its effort to influence American elections.”

Ms. Pelosi sent a similar letter in early September to Mr. Ryan. Neither received a response. By October, the Congressional Leadership Fund, a “super PAC” tied to Mr. Ryan, had used the stolen material in another advertisement, attacking Mr. Garcia during the general election in Florida.

AshLee Strong, a spokeswoman for Mr. Ryan, said he did not control how the material was used in the ad, although she did not dispute that the material had been stolen as part of an act of Russian espionage. “Speaker Ryan has said for months that foreign intervention in our elections is unacceptable,” she said in a written statement.

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https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/12/13/us/politics/house-democrats-hacking-dccc.html?_r=0&referer=

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Reply Paul Ryan & Republican Establishment Used Hacked Info From Russia Against Democrats: (Original post)
KittyWampus Feb 2017 OP
shenmue Feb 2017 #1
KittyWampus Feb 2017 #3
shenmue Feb 2017 #6
bdamomma Feb 2017 #9
shenmue Feb 2017 #11
Gore1FL Feb 2017 #19
Gore1FL Feb 2017 #18
BannonsLiver Feb 2017 #36
KittyWampus Feb 2017 #45
Pacifist Patriot Feb 2017 #49
BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #2
iluvtennis Feb 2017 #26
TrekLuver Feb 2017 #40
Scarsdale Feb 2017 #35
leftstreet Feb 2017 #4
2naSalit Feb 2017 #5
Wellstone ruled Feb 2017 #7
Cracklin Charlie Feb 2017 #20
Wellstone ruled Feb 2017 #21
Scarsdale Feb 2017 #37
Wellstone ruled Feb 2017 #46
2naSalit Feb 2017 #22
Alice11111 Feb 2017 #29
unblock Feb 2017 #8
Aimee in OKC Feb 2017 #10
JudyM Feb 2017 #12
Guilded Lilly Feb 2017 #13
Alice11111 Feb 2017 #30
Botany Feb 2017 #14
BadgerMom Feb 2017 #15
Crash2Parties Feb 2017 #16
kentuck Feb 2017 #17
2naSalit Feb 2017 #23
Alice11111 Feb 2017 #31
2naSalit Feb 2017 #33
ArcticFox Feb 2017 #24
Perseus Feb 2017 #25
saidsimplesimon Feb 2017 #52
diva77 Feb 2017 #27
democratisphere Feb 2017 #28
myrna minx Feb 2017 #32
Squinch Feb 2017 #34
zentrum Feb 2017 #38
Rex Feb 2017 #39
TrekLuver Feb 2017 #41
world wide wally Feb 2017 #42
DK504 Feb 2017 #43
malaise Feb 2017 #44
Alice11111 Feb 2017 #47
red dog 1 Feb 2017 #50
red dog 1 Feb 2017 #48
dchill Feb 2017 #51
herding cats Feb 2017 #53
riversedge May 2017 #54
riversedge May 2017 #55

Response to KittyWampus (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 10:01 PM

1. Can Ryan go to jail for that?

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Response to shenmue (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 10:02 PM

3. You can't legally use stolen material.

 

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 10:03 PM

6. Ha! Please let Ryan go to jail.

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Response to shenmue (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 10:26 PM

9. Can McConnell go too?

I want to see these SOB's go down, let the revolution begin. Resist.

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Response to bdamomma (Reply #9)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 10:28 PM

11. Yes

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Response to bdamomma (Reply #9)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 11:31 PM

19. See #18

Unless there is an obvious coordination with the SuperPAC there is a safe separation.

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Response to shenmue (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 11:30 PM

18. Super PACS are, by law, separated from the candidates.

Both crimes would have to be proven for Ryan to be accountable.

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Response to shenmue (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 12:05 PM

36. In a civilized country they could and would

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #36)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 01:54 PM

45. BannonsLiver... LOL!

 

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Response to shenmue (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 04:10 PM

49. Sadly, "can," "should," and "will" are

vastly different realities.

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Response to KittyWampus (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 10:01 PM

2. This was all reporting ignored by the tv gasbags. nt

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #2)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 12:33 AM

26. Yep, most of the M$M was too busy treating the con man like a rock start and normalizing him nt

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Response to iluvtennis (Reply #26)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 12:54 PM

40. Yeah they are nothing but fake news.

 

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #2)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 12:03 PM

35. Yes

They were busy accepting calls from Agent Orange, to boost their ratings. He got more free publicity that all the rest rolled into one. Now look where THAT got us. A raving lunatic is in charge, and the gop LOVES it. They are pushng through their agenda (screwing the little guy) so fast, it is mind boggling. For 8 tears, they blocked President Obama, did the least work of any previous congress. Now they have the fat orange crazy man/child in office they are giddy with excitement.

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Response to KittyWampus (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 10:02 PM

4. DURec

complicit

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Response to KittyWampus (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 10:02 PM

5. He has been complicit all along....nt

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Response to KittyWampus (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 10:13 PM

7. And now you fully

understand the why the GOP will not open any investigations into any or all of their members or members
associations with Russian Agents or any foreign actors.

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #7)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 11:43 PM

20. Yes, this would explain the failure to open investigations.

They were warned not to use stolen information by their Democratic counterparts in September, 2016.

And still, they persisted.

I think the timing of the warning would rule out possible complicity as a cause of the "ashen" faces after today's briefing, as well. They've been aware of, and documented, the Republican complicity since September, 2016. These actions should not have come as a shock to any of them.

There's a bigger story.

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Response to Cracklin Charlie (Reply #20)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 12:10 AM

21. The feared

Constitutional Crisis is upon us. Guardian News had a story about Ryan and someone else using a source in Florida to gather and then later use this stolen info against Dems in tight races. Something about the State AG having her mitts in it also.

Oh how I wish I had my old Bud in D.C. still Staffing.

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #21)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 12:05 PM

37. State AG

Is she the one tRump paid off?

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Response to Scarsdale (Reply #37)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 02:09 PM

46. The same one.

Noticed Florida passed special Legislation to Protect sitting State Elected Officials from out side inquiries.

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Response to Cracklin Charlie (Reply #20)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 12:13 AM

22. I'd put $5 on Chaffetz and Howdygoudy got hold of some of that too.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #22)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 01:08 AM

29. Ill make it $10. HowdyGoudy, good. He is treacherous

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Response to KittyWampus (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 10:18 PM

8. call it what it is -- contraband.

republicans used contraband.

illegal.

criminal.

receiving stolen goods.

profiting from stolen goods.

contraband.

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Response to KittyWampus (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 10:28 PM

10. Rec'd for visibility. The presidency was the top prize ...

of multiple attempts on our election results. The Trump surprise could be seen as providing additional cover for Russia running interference for the GOP's {unexpected?} success in other races.

Remember there was all that hacking going on during the campaign season. And Russian twitter-bot posts by the millions!

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Response to KittyWampus (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 10:29 PM

12. The media needs to look away from tRump's antics long enough to inform the public about congress'

malfeasance.

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Response to KittyWampus (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 10:55 PM

13. Comrade Ryannnnnnn

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Response to Guilded Lilly (Reply #13)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 01:10 AM

30. No doubt

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Response to KittyWampus (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 11:21 PM

15. K & R

Comrade Ryan makes me sick.

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Response to KittyWampus (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 11:23 PM

16. So, how would they be prosecuted other than by...the GOP Congress?

Fox...chicken coop...new home.

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Response to KittyWampus (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 11:26 PM

17. Holy Shit!

The whole Republican Party is a gang of traitors.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #17)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 12:18 AM

23. I figured that out back last summer

I just didn't recognize the pathway until recently. They are all complicit and most know about it and felt confident enough of the cover that they could go out and be smug about it. Don't forget that there are a pile of Wall Streeters in on this con too. They thought they had all the bases covered and they were wrong.

A proverb: "Lies are like an awl in a cloth bag, they always show themselves."

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #23)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 01:13 AM

31. True. Most of it is old news that people just startng buzzing on...Gulianni bragged. Sons bragged e

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Response to Alice11111 (Reply #31)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 10:59 AM

33. I think that for most

the dots are getting connected and the picture is revealing itself clearly enough for more to see it This isn't a 2D image, this one is in 4D and requires a 4D approach.

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Response to KittyWampus (Original post)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 12:29 AM

24. So prove Ryan used it

If so, his actions of using the material directly contradict his statement: “Speaker Ryan has said for months that foreign intervention in our elections is unacceptable,”

He accepted it when he used the material.

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Response to KittyWampus (Original post)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 12:32 AM

25. If this was known before the election took place

Why didn't the democrats, including HRC, do anything substantial about it?

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Response to Perseus (Reply #25)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 04:50 PM

52. Perseus

Greek to me. Let's Move On to the present, shall we?

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Response to KittyWampus (Original post)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 12:35 AM

27. I wonder how the Koch Bros. fit into all of this

who is beholden to whom in this web?

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Response to KittyWampus (Original post)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 12:36 AM

28. Impeach Ryan.

Then lock him up!

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Response to KittyWampus (Original post)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 06:52 AM

32. K&R

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Response to KittyWampus (Original post)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 11:00 AM

34. Kick

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Response to KittyWampus (Original post)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 12:52 PM

38. Doesn't matter. This story

.....will go nowhere.The media wants to talk about stuff that gets better ratings. Like Rump's handshake. You know, important stuff.

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Response to KittyWampus (Original post)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 12:54 PM

39. Now the real question is, will anyone do something actionable against them?

 

In the past, the answer has been 'no'. The GOP could be Russian puppets why not, they already sold out years ago to Communist China.

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Response to KittyWampus (Original post)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 12:56 PM

41. Whomever is dirty will get cleaned out in the wash.

 

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Response to KittyWampus (Original post)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 01:17 PM

42. I hope they talk about it on tv constantly

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Response to KittyWampus (Original post)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 01:23 PM

43. The Rethugs are as complicit as Trumps buddies

An actually Watergate style attack on our nation was never looked in to by the Brown Shirts. These guys knew for months this had occurred and would continue. Ryan and the Brown Shirts are as guilty as all involved. 'Strongly' worded letters don't seem to work with traitors. We really need to have press conference rather than let the GOP know what we will do.

No more playing bi-partisan shit and thinking they will comply.

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Response to KittyWampus (Original post)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 01:40 PM

44. They stole the election

They must pay

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Response to malaise (Reply #44)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 02:53 PM

47. Again...Gore, Kerry, Hillary...

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Response to malaise (Reply #44)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 04:32 PM

50. But they won't have to pay, because they control both houses of Congress,

so there won't be any independent investigation.

Without a bi-partisan, totally independent Congressional investigation of these criminal acts, nothing will be done about it.

Once again, the Rethugs stole an election..this time with the help of a foreign adversary, and yet NOTHING will be done about it, because it's "Animal Farm" and "the pigs are in charge."

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Response to KittyWampus (Original post)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 03:50 PM

48. Putin engineered a sneak attack on the United States, with GOP involvement, as the NYT article says

This "cyber-attack" was no less of a "sneak attack" on the U.S. than Pearl Harbor was.

The direct result of this "sneak" cyber-attack on the U.S. was that the Republicans kept control of both the House and Senate, and were able to install a deranged, pathological liar in the White House.

And the worst part is - THEY GOT AWAY WITH IT!

These evil Republicans will NEVER allow a truly "independent" investigation of this matter, simply because THEY DON'T HAVE TO - They control both Houses of Congress!

Yet, in spite of all the evil done by the Russians, by Trump, and by GOP Congressional leaders (like House Speaker Eddie Munster and Senator McTurtle),
HILLARY CLINTON STILL WOULD HAVE DEFEATED TRUMP,
were it not for FBI Director Comey's clear violation of the Hatch Act, by sending that letter to Congress just 11 days before the election.

THAT's the part that pisses me off the most!

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Response to KittyWampus (Original post)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 04:37 PM

51. K&R.

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Response to KittyWampus (Original post)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 08:57 PM

53. I agree. Ryan is a Russian stooge, too.

K&R!

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Response to KittyWampus (Original post)

Wed May 10, 2017, 11:17 AM

54. ICYM or forgot as I didREC

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Response to KittyWampus (Original post)

Wed May 10, 2017, 11:21 AM

55. The N.R.C.C.s use of documents stolen by the Russians plays right into the hands of one of the Un




https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/12/13/us/politics/house-democrats-hacking-dccc.html?_r=0&referer=



....After the first political advertisement appeared using the hacked material, Mr. Luján wrote a letter to his Republican counterpart at the National Republican Congressional Committee urging him to not use this stolen material in the 2016 campaign.

“The N.R.C.C.’s use of documents stolen by the Russians plays right into the hands of one of the United States’ most dangerous adversaries,” Mr. Luján’s Aug. 29 letter said. “Put simply, if this action continues, the N.R.C.C. will be complicit in aiding the Russian government in its effort to influence American elections.”

Representative Ben Ray Luján, Democrat of New Mexico and chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, was targeted by Guccifer 2.0 even though he faced no serious challenger.
Bill Clark / CQ Roll Call, via Associated Press

Ms. Pelosi sent a similar letter in early September to Mr. Ryan. Neither received a response. By October, the Congressional Leadership Fund, a “super PAC” tied to Mr. Ryan, had used the stolen material in another advertisement, attacking Mr. Garcia during the general election in Florida.

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