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Tue Feb 14, 2017, 06:23 PM

We must be merciless

For the past few months, I have been torn between my ethical and positive self and my ruthless Machiavellian self.

I believe that we have reached a time in history where Machiavellian power politics must be used in order to preserve the Republic.

I believe the Democrats must beat the Trump Administration to the ground with allegations that Trump and his henchman are operatives of the Kremlin.

At this point, it does not matter to me if this is true or not. It has the appearance of Truth, and there is a long history of Trump's involvement with Putin and Russia.

Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump were able to make much progress with their lies about Hillary Clinton and the emails. We must learn to use messaging this same way, so that Democrats can save the United States for the future.

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Reply We must be merciless (Original post)
bluedye33139 Feb 2017 OP
Sherman A1 Feb 2017 #1
greytdemocrat Feb 2017 #3
Sherman A1 Feb 2017 #6
greytdemocrat Feb 2017 #10
Sherman A1 Feb 2017 #11
greytdemocrat Feb 2017 #13
MFM008 Feb 2017 #2
JHB Feb 2017 #4
Sherman A1 Feb 2017 #7
malaise Feb 2017 #9
panader0 Feb 2017 #12
bluedye33139 Feb 2017 #14
JHB Feb 2017 #17
tblue37 Feb 2017 #19
jknudsen Feb 2017 #5
Sherman A1 Feb 2017 #8
Initech Feb 2017 #15
Maraya1969 Feb 2017 #21
ElementaryPenguin Feb 2017 #16
Maraya1969 Feb 2017 #18
Maraya1969 Feb 2017 #20
backscatter712 Feb 2017 #22
Iggo Feb 2017 #23

Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Tue Feb 14, 2017, 06:25 PM

1. ...

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Response to Sherman A1 (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 14, 2017, 06:27 PM

3. So

You don't care about truth. Got it.

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Response to greytdemocrat (Reply #3)

Tue Feb 14, 2017, 06:45 PM

6. Missed that point by a mile

Didn't read the whole OP, did we...

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Response to Sherman A1 (Reply #6)

Tue Feb 14, 2017, 06:47 PM

10. Oops!

Sorry, comment was not aimed at you. My bad!

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Response to greytdemocrat (Reply #10)

Tue Feb 14, 2017, 06:50 PM

11. All good

it's an information overload time and we all miss stuff. Hell, who can keep up?

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Response to Sherman A1 (Reply #11)

Tue Feb 14, 2017, 06:52 PM

13. lol! You got it!

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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Tue Feb 14, 2017, 06:26 PM

2. yup

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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Tue Feb 14, 2017, 06:34 PM

4. Can you refresh my memory about when Sanders lied about her emails?

Perhaps I am too-strongly remembering him rejecting them as an issue.

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Response to JHB (Reply #4)

Tue Feb 14, 2017, 06:46 PM

7. Precisely

This post is nothing but divisive and completely unwarranted.

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Response to JHB (Reply #4)

Tue Feb 14, 2017, 06:47 PM

9. Looks like DU has some alternative facts folks

as well

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Response to JHB (Reply #4)

Tue Feb 14, 2017, 06:51 PM

12. And lumping Bernie in there with the Don...wow.

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Response to JHB (Reply #4)

Tue Feb 14, 2017, 07:13 PM

14. I remember him publicly saying that they were not an issue

and then listening to screams of LOCK HER UP and HILLARY FOR PRISON from the crowds surrounding him.

But it's all over, and Donald Trump is president, so I guess I should just pretend that never happened. Thanks for the reminder.

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Response to bluedye33139 (Reply #14)

Tue Feb 14, 2017, 08:09 PM

17. In other words nothing from Bernie himself, but some jackass "or bust"ers in the crowd...

...(and that's assuming they weren't full-blown sTrumpets infiltrating a Bernie rally)?

Because as long as the "I guess I should just pretend that never happened" card is in play, do you recall that the vast majority of Bernie supporters in the primaries voted for Hillary in the general election? And always were going to vote for the primary winner? Will that part be forgotten when you're being all "merciless"? Or will you escalate the pie fight by not caring too much about your aim because everybody in that direction is practically the same?

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Response to JHB (Reply #4)

Wed Feb 15, 2017, 01:07 AM

19. He explicitly said during the debates that no one cared about her "damned emails." nt

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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Tue Feb 14, 2017, 06:34 PM

5. What the heck did Bernie lie about Hillary get real

 

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Response to jknudsen (Reply #5)

Tue Feb 14, 2017, 06:46 PM

8. Agreed

The OP is simply wrong.

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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Tue Feb 14, 2017, 07:38 PM

15. Trump and Putin war criminals!

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Response to Initech (Reply #15)

Wed Feb 15, 2017, 01:09 AM

21. Yes they are!!!

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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Tue Feb 14, 2017, 07:43 PM

16. Right on!!!!

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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2017, 01:05 AM

18. I have gotten yelled at on here for suggesting some things like that. I agree with you!

Look at the shit this guy has gotten away with!!!! Republicans do whatever they want and they get away with it.

And Democrats sit there and say, "But it's not in the constitution" As if we don't have an entire Supreme Court whose job it is to interpret the constitution because the constitution is not black and white and is subject to interpretation!!!

Now I hear some shit about his Supreme Court pick will probably go through. Fuck!

There has not been one filibuster since this monster show has come to town. Everything we were told they would fight has just gone flat and the republicans win again.

They are ruthless. They lie, they cheat.

So far being nice has not worked.

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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2017, 01:08 AM

20. If you edit your post and take out the thing with Bernie people may pay attention

Right now it is just a fight about Bernie and the emails. I got your point and I agree with it.

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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2017, 01:22 AM

22. I've been saying this for years.

Democrats need to learn to be ruthless.

We can't keep showing up to a gunfight with a flower.

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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2017, 01:31 AM

23. Whew! Nice alternative facts, there! Keep fighting that primary!

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