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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 03:26 PM Dec 2011

There is Zero chance that Vice-President Biden will be replaced by Anyone on the ticket.

Last edited Thu Dec 29, 2011, 05:07 PM - Edit history (3)

(on edit: barring tragedy, illness, scandal, Biden's wishes etc. but the President will not Choose to replace Biden for simple political advantage, sheesh.)

It would be perceived as weakness. The choice of Joe would cast as a 'mistake' by President Obama in his first term.

I'm sure someone in the West Wing has brought it up, but just like President Bartlet on the TV show, President Obama has closed the subject. I guarantee you.

I would have been fine with Hillary as his VP choice and Joe as SoS in 2008, but that time has passed.

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hlthe2b

(102,119 posts)
1. Perhaps the switch is possible (since HRC has stated she doesn't intend a second term as SOS)...
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 03:31 PM
Dec 2011

As Robert Reich has suggested. But, I agree, there is no way Obama would unceremoniously "dump" Biden from the VP spot unless Biden requested a shift to SOS. Whether HRC would want to be VP is quite questionable, to me.

And, I don't agree with those who suggest Biden as VP to be a liability... I think it is very difficult to appreciate all that he is doing for Obama--from the sidelines, but it does seem that the President is happy with his counsel. Me, I really like Biden. No politico is immune from criticism, certainly--nor should they be. But, I like him.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
2. if he had a good reason to replace Biden, he would do it
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 03:31 PM
Dec 2011

I haven't seen any good reasons to replace him, but if he did have such a reason, he would do it and ignore anyone who called it a sign of weakness.

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
8. Biden was asked by Obama MONTHS ago. He accepted.
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 03:46 PM
Dec 2011

That was still far enough into things for Biden to decline and he didn't.

But apparently (cockeyed) hope springs eternal when people see someone daydream in print.

former9thward

(31,935 posts)
6. The main reason to move Biden would be to set up a candidate for 2016.
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 03:42 PM
Dec 2011

Biden will be too old in 2016. I don't think it is necessary for Obama to do that however. Let whoever wants to run,run.

former9thward

(31,935 posts)
15. I agree with you.
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 04:30 PM
Dec 2011

As I said let whomever runs, run. I think multi-candidate primaries are a good thing. They toughen a candidate for the general.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
7. Zero chance will not stop the speculation here,
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 03:42 PM
Dec 2011

unfortunately. I'm half inclined to believe it's posted just to piss people off.

Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
9. The only way I'd accept that is if they merged "Master/Blaster" Max Max Thunderdome style.
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 03:46 PM
Dec 2011

I'm just saying that, politically, I'd be more comfortable with that than losing Joe entirely.

The ghost of Ed Wood would naturally be my next choice as Secretary of State.

PB

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
12. A tragic event could occur
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 04:00 PM
Dec 2011

to either President Obama or Vice President Biden.

I suspect that is not what you meant, but I had to throw that out there.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
13. In politics, there never is a zero probability something will not happen.
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 04:16 PM
Dec 2011

Not to mention, if it is planned, it needs to be denied to retain the element of surprise

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